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[New_Roo]

I reckon the opposite. Right now is when he would offer more value as opposed to when Brown is clunking it on the end of perfect delivery.

But basically at the moment we are kicking it straight to them in forward 50.... so not a lot turner could do unless it hits the ground


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[Mav]

FMD, Lindsay Thomas was apparently the greatest forward pressure player the game has ever seen and Turner averages more tackles than he did.

We miss Turner.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

FMD, Lindsay Thomas was apparently the greatest forward pressure player the game has ever seen and Turner averages more tackles than he did.

We miss Turner.

LT also averaged 1.6 goals a game

 

[Mav]

LT also averaged 1.6 goals a game

If Turner stood in the goal square and waited for Joe the Goose he would too.

 

[Go_Roos!]

If Turner stood in the goal square and waited for Joe the Goose he would too.

He still might struggle to make the distance!

 

[SpiderBurton22]

If Turner stood in the goal square and waited for Joe the Goose he would too.

Mentioning LT to you is like mentioning the Huddle or AFLW to Tef.

Too easy.

 

[King Corey]

If Turner stood in the goal square and waited for Joe the Goose he would too.

1.6 goals per game for 205 games.

That's a lot of lucky breaks in the goal square.

 

[Mav]

1.6 goals per game for 205 games.

That's a lot of lucky breaks in the goal square.

Yep. Most selfish lazy player to every play.

 

[King Corey]

Yep. Most selfish lazy player to every play.

Wish we had more selfish footballers then.

Anyone who can arse 7.5 and a few OOB and be classified as lazy must've had a 30 goal game in them if they applied themselves.

 

[LB2Snake]

Wish we had more selfish footballers then.

Anyone who can arse 7.5 and a few OOB and be classified as lazy must've had a 30 goal game in them if they applied themselves.

LT was a cracking player. We’d luv him in our side right now.

 

[DunderHead]

Geeze Kayne is in good nick.

Where was Kayne?

 

[Merlin007]

I'm not sure where you got those stats from. Or if you are using 2020 Castagna stats vs 2019 Turner stats.

what I quoted was career stats, and the point I was making is that Turner plays an important structural role, which we are missing. What I did NOT say is that he's some sort of super star, or attempt to deny that our list is seriously deficient in the lack of small forwards, which it is, and which needs to be addressed. But on the LIST WE HAVE TODAY, Turner is the best available small forward (and I don't count TT, Zurharr or Curtis as smalls) and ergo, we have missed him since he's been out

 

[King Corey]

Where was Kayne?

Yesterday's training gallery.

Looks like a mini Tarrant.

 

[the flying ham]

yeah, right, a dual premiership player Richmond preferred to keep over Butler. Ellis

That's right, allowing him to take the mantle. You've utilised another average player from a good side to justify having an average one in ours. Weird hill to die on.

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[Asifhe Givashe]

lol missed Kayne Turner.

ummm, yes we have

Kayne Turner​	Name​	Jason Castagna​
North Melbourne Kangaroos​	Team​	Richmond Tigers​
Forward​	Position​	Forward​
79​	Career Games​	81​
Wodonga Football​	Origin​	Northern Knights​
December 31, 1995​	Date of Birth​	July 12, 1996​
24yr 6mth​	Age​	23yr 11mth​
180cm​	Height​	181cm​
75kg​	Weight​	82kg​
2013 Rookie Draft​	Last Drafted In​	2014 Rookie Draft​
Round 2, Pick #25​	Last Draft Position​	Round 2, Pick #29​
North Melbourne Kangaroos​	Last Drafted By​	Richmond Tigers​
Career​	Stats for Season​	Career​
79​	Games​	81​
5.6​	Kicks​	6.6​
5.7​	Handballs​	5.3​
11.3​	Disposals​	12.0​
2.6​	Marks​	3.3​
0.7​	Goals​	1.1​
0.4​	Behinds​	0.9​
3.5​	Tackles​	2.9​
0​	Hitouts​	0​
2.1​	Inside 50s​	2.4​

yes we know that spud Castagna averages 40% more goals per game than our Kayne.

When I think of Kayne, I think of that Sydney miss before Mason had his out of body experience.

T’was the small forward equivalent of MacMillan on Swan.

 

[the flying ham]

Interesting to compare Kayne Turner to Ben brown - 53 to 285 goals respectively...

Taylor, Thomas & Zurhaar... Another interested comparison, 3 of the most talented kids on our list...

Mahoney has played 2 games & Hall is average.

Turner isn't improving us much, if at all.

Turner is a fairly significant upgrade on Mahoney and hall, so I do agree we miss his output comparative to the alternative. However he has been in the system a while now and his output needs to increase. As it stands he is a vanilla small who doesn't offer a great deal at this level without further improvement and it is okay to say that without fluff comparisons to others like castagna

I hope he is back in soon and can hit that scoreboard when he does

 

[Merlin007]

Turner is a fairly significant upgrade on Mahoney and hall, so I do agree we miss his output comparative to the alternative. However he has been in the system a while now and his output needs to increase. As it stands he is a vanilla small who doesn't offer a great deal at this level without further improvement and it is okay to say that without fluff comparisons to others like castagna.

right, so you agree with my original post, thanks

 

[the flying ham]

right, so you agree with my original post, thanks

No I don't. He doesn't play an overly important structural role - he is just there and better than the alternative.

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[Mav]

Wish we had more selfish footballers then.

Anyone who can arse 7.5 and a few OOB and be classified as lazy must've had a 30 goal game in them if they applied themselves.

One good game in 200 is one of the reasons we have been shyte for so long.

 

[the flying ham]

One good game in 200 is one of the reasons we have been sh*te for so long.

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[Asifhe Givashe]

Yep. Most selfish lazy player to every play.

When it comes to NMFC BF all-time weird player hatred, Ziebell and Lindsay is a combination for the ages.

1.6 goals per game for Lindsay and 1 of 9 players league-wide to average 20+1 for the skipper.

 

[Mav]

When it comes to NMFC BF all-time weird player hatred, Ziebell and Lindsay is a combination for the ages.

1.6 goals per game for Lindsay and 1 of 9 players league-wide to average 20+1 for the skipper.

JZ is a good player. But “good” is all. He’s not a captain that lifts the team. He had good trade value a few years ago, now he has none. I don’t think he’s s**t, I just don’t think he’s a good captain. Completely different to LT, who was the most overrated player ever. And when I say ever I mean of any sport, at any time in any country. He was gifted games despite ******* up more times than he did something good. Absolutely joke we gave him so many games, but with a coach like Scotts it’s no surprise.

 

[Psicosis]

Turner is a fairly significant upgrade on Mahoney and hall, so I do agree we miss his output comparative to the alternative. However he has been in the system a while now and his output needs to increase. As it stands he is a vanilla small who doesn't offer a great deal at this level without further improvement and it is okay to say that without fluff comparisons to others like castagna

I hope he is back in soon and can hit that scoreboard when he does

Based on what is Turner a significant upgrade? Perceived forward pressure?

 

[the flying ham]

Based on what is Turner a significant upgrade? Perceived forward pressure?

You don't think Turner is better than a 2 gamer?

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[Harris 10]

Based on what is Turner a significant upgrade? Perceived forward pressure?

Kayne Turner and Jack Mahony AFL Stats Comparison

Kayne Turner and Jack Mahony AFL Stats Comparison.

www.footywire.com

Let’s be honest Turner isn’t a great player, it's debatable if he’s a good player, but currently he’s miles ahead of Mahoney.