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I think there is a real groundswell of anger in this country because of the way things have played out over the last 5 years or so ie: the covid saga, the astronomical cost of living and higher rents and mortgages all happening in such a short timeframe.

I personally don't think the Government has handled migration well. They are bringing in too many people before the infrastructure is in place to handle the ammount of people coming in. You only need to look to Melbournes West to see the issues it's causing. Packed roads, shonkily built areas with a goat track in and out of the suburb and a rail system not built for purpose. The fact that a huge portion of the population relies on VLine services in metropolitan Melbourne is just plain old negligent planning.

That being said surely the guys at this protest saw they were marching with legitimate Nazis and should have called it quits and moved on or booed them out of the area. Those sort of beliefs just don't belong in modern Australia. The police should have done more to **** them off especially after the first incident of violence.
 
I think there is a real groundswell of anger in this country because of the way things have played out over the last 5 years or so ie: the covid saga, the astronomical cost of living and higher rents and mortgages all happening in such a short timeframe.

I personally don't think the Government has handled migration well. They are bringing in too many people before the infrastructure is in place to handle the ammount of people coming in. You only need to look to Melbournes West to see the issues it's causing. Packed roads, shonkily built areas with a goat track in and out of the suburb and a rail system not built for purpose. The fact that a huge portion of the population relies on VLine services in metropolitan Melbourne is just plain old negligent planning.

That being said surely the guys at this protest saw they were marching with legitimate Nazis and should have called it quits and moved on or booed them out of the area. Those sort of beliefs just don't belong in modern Australia. The police should have done more to **** them off especially after the first incident of violence.
First bit is fine but most of those issues are not migrant issues and youd be kidding yourself to think theyd have electrified the west rail link if no one moved there anyway.

That whole thing is a bit overblown, the majority of the wests population boom is serviced by the Weribee rail link for now (theyre also doing west connex for road right now, even though it wont ease shit).

Part of the issue here is that no government does work before there is a need, they dont build schools, roads and hospitals because theyre develooping an area. That again, is not a migration problem.

If you wanna protest that the government needs to be more proactive thats totally fine, do that, turning into any sort of discussion about migration (which AGAIN as a percentage of total population has slowed in recent years) then youre gonna lose any credibility.
 

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I think there is a real groundswell of anger in this country because of the way things have played out over the last 5 years or so ie: the covid saga, the astronomical cost of living and higher rents and mortgages all happening in such a short timeframe.

I personally don't think the Government has handled migration well. They are bringing in too many people before the infrastructure is in place to handle the ammount of people coming in. You only need to look to Melbournes West to see the issues it's causing. Packed roads, shonkily built areas with a goat track in and out of the suburb and a rail system not built for purpose. The fact that a huge portion of the population relies on VLine services in metropolitan Melbourne is just plain old negligent planning.

That being said surely the guys at this protest saw they were marching with legitimate Nazis and should have called it quits and moved on or booed them out of the area. Those sort of beliefs just don't belong in modern Australia. The police should have done more to **** them off especially after the first incident of violence.
The march was a small number of people. I don't think there's a groundswell.
What is happening though is the Nazi's are recruiting and getting organised because they have been allowed to .
 
The march was a small number of people. I don't think there's a groundswell.
What is happening though is the Nazi's are recruiting and getting organised because they have been allowed to .

I don't think I've come across anyone that's happy with the way things are in this country at the moment. The last few years has been a grind for the majority of the population.
 
Part of the issue here is that no government does work before there is a need, they dont build schools, roads and hospitals because theyre develooping an area. That again, is not a migration problem.

Like that airport train they've needed to build for how many decades now?

Vic Government is not good at forward planning.
 
If you accept Nazi's at your rally , you are as bad as them.

'The protests marked a significant moment for the far-right in making inroads into the mainstream, Dr. Ross said. “They’ve successfully — it looks to me — met up in public with thousands of Australians. No one threw them out. No one booed them out of the rally. They had a crossover success moment.”

“It is very very concerning,” Dr. Ross said, “and we don’t know where it’s going to go from here.”'

 
Jesus Christ. What are ASIO and the police doing to stop these scumbags?
50 nazi men bashing Aboriginal women.


A lot of officers probably see a little but of themselves in these scumbags. Law enforcement tends to attract right wing authority type personalities. Therefore they don't see these people as the terrorists they are, but more as just a few angry white lads. Even the judge said to Sewell 'good luck to you young man' when he was leaving court during his assault case.
 
I don't think I've come across anyone that's happy with the way things are in this country at the moment. The last few years has been a grind for the majority of the population.
10,000 racists is not a large protest compared to 100,000 that other protests get.
The way Ann Aly spoke about ' people there with legitimate concerns' shows how far Labor have moved to the right.
 
I think there is a real groundswell of anger in this country because of the way things have played out over the last 5 years or so ie: the covid saga, the astronomical cost of living and higher rents and mortgages all happening in such a short timeframe.

I don’t think so. All the parties at the last two elections that campaigned on Covid and migrants being responsible for cost of living barely got 10% of the vote. The Liberals lost many seats, and Labor who got blamed for it by a lot of media increased their vote.

Don’t confuse a few bogans screaming at nothing with the term “groundswell”.

I personally don't think the Government has handled migration well. They are bringing in too many people before the infrastructure is in place to handle the ammount of people coming in. You only need to look to Melbournes West to see the issues it's causing. Packed roads, shonkily built areas with a goat track in and out of the suburb and a rail system not built for purpose. The fact that a huge portion of the population relies on VLine services in metropolitan Melbourne is just plain old negligent planning.

Infrastructure planning is an important thing but we need migrants to fund that infrastructure, good well educated migrants contributing to our society. In WA the state government have done a much better job of infrastructure planning and I’d argue there’s less displeasure here.

That being said surely the guys at this protest saw they were marching with legitimate Nazis and should have called it quits and moved on or booed them out of the area. Those sort of beliefs just don't belong in modern Australia.

Given the neo Nazis links were well known before the rally I’d say most attendees weren’t too concerned about their presence.

The majority of the crowd didn’t boo the Nazis as they agreed with the sentiment, they just didn’t see that sentiment as “Nazi”.

I saw a vox pop interview with one rally attendee who said she didn’t support Nazis being there, but then said she supported non white migrants being sent back home n because Australia is primarily a British country 🙄
 
I don't think I've come across anyone that's happy with the way things are in this country at the moment. The last few years has been a grind for the majority of the population.

Yet they re-elected the Labor government with a bigger margin. Labor’s policies have actually encouraged a lot of wage growth that hasn’t been talked about in the media, along with a lot of subsidies in healthcare, medications, childcare and other areas that have helped working Australians, along with the Stage 3 tax cuts.

Maybe they haven’t been perfect but most Australians I think see them as being more competent in relieving cost of living issues than the alternatives
 
Jesus Christ. What are ASIO and the police doing to stop these scumbags?
50 nazi men bashing Aboriginal women.

Why isn't anyone calling this hate crimes?

Edit: just saw in the article some are, thank goodness
 

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10,000 racists is not a large protest compared to 100,000 that other protests get.
The way Ann Aly spoke about ' people there with legitimate concerns' shows how far Labor have moved to the right.

Anne Aly was actually more condemning than that. She did what a lot of others wouldn’t and said the rally was “clearly racist”.

 
Like that airport train they've needed to build for how many decades now?

Vic Government is not good at forward planning.
If there's a project which relies on immigration growing rather than shrinking, it's Melbourne's Airport Rail.

Much like all conservative issues, the rich have convinced the poor stupid people that immigration is the problem, not the very rich people paying less taxes.

The left needs to use the same tactics, about billionaires taking all the coal and iron ore being un-Australian. Australia was founded on small-business and small farmers/miners/breweries. The move to corporatisation and consolidation and monopolisation is the un-Australian part of the economy which is making poor and middle class people poorer.

Let alone politicians working for party-first then lobbyists and donors rather than being representative of the area in which they were elected. Politicians taking jobs at lobbyists and interest groups.

Taxes on income, but not wealth.

There are sooooo many things "un-Australian" about the economic settings and immigration is nowhere near the top of the list.

The left needs to be as active and vocal about the causes as conservative extremists blame it on "immigrants" (non-white non-christians).
 
Anne Aly was actually more condemning than that. She did what a lot of others wouldn’t and said the rally was “clearly racist”.

She had a good word for the majority of them none of whom told the Nazi's to leave or told them to get off the podium.
 
Yet they re-elected the Labor government with a bigger margin. Labor’s policies have actually encouraged a lot of wage growth that hasn’t been talked about in the media, along with a lot of subsidies in healthcare, medications, childcare and other areas that have helped working Australians, along with the Stage 3 tax cuts.

Maybe they haven’t been perfect but most Australians I think see them as being more competent in relieving cost of living issues than the alternatives

I feel like Labor got in because the alternative option is ****ing attrocious and I'm a long time Labor voter. If you speak to the every day person you'd be hard up against it to find someone happy with the way things are going at the moment/last couple years.

Anyway that's beside the point. This threads about the marches.
 
I feel like Labor got in because the alternative option is ****ing attrocious and I'm a long time Labor voter. If you speak to the every day person you'd be hard up against it to find someone happy with the way things are going at the moment/last couple years.

Anyway that's beside the point. This threads about the marches.
1- yehhhh nah, you can talk about cossie lives and house pricing but you’ve also gotta be honest about whether immigration is or was responsible for any of those talking points. Additionally you raise that the alternative would have made it better, I think it’s pretty clear they wouldn’t and they certainly wouldn’t have dropped immigration rates.

2- the threads not actually about the marches it’s about Neo Nazis and facists in this country. It’s just been focused on the marches the last week or so cause they went to said marches.
 

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I'm so incredibly disappointed that so many "patriotic Australians" would tacitly approve the NSN goons by marching with them, who are then so emboldened that they went and bashed probably the most peaceful protest group in the country at Camp Sovereignty.

These NSN extremists need to be completely quashed. It's disgraceful.
 
I'm so incredibly disappointed that so many "patriotic Australians" would tacitly approve the NSN goons by marching with them, who are then so emboldened that they went and bashed probably the most peaceful protest group in the country at Camp Sovereignty.

These NSN extremists need to be completely quashed. It's disgraceful.
Feels like not enough is being made about that, unless I'm missing something.

Like should be national outrage.
 
Here's a video of th Nazis attacking the Indigenous camp.
Clear video of heaps of faces but no arrests so far, what a joke.

 
First bit is fine but most of those issues are not migrant issues and youd be kidding yourself to think theyd have electrified the west rail link if no one moved there anyway.

That whole thing is a bit overblown, the majority of the wests population boom is serviced by the Weribee rail link for now (theyre also doing west connex for road right now, even though it wont ease shit).

Part of the issue here is that no government does work before there is a need, they dont build schools, roads and hospitals because theyre develooping an area. That again, is not a migration problem.

If you wanna protest that the government needs to be more proactive thats totally fine, do that, turning into any sort of discussion about migration (which AGAIN as a percentage of total population has slowed in recent years) then youre gonna lose any credibility.
I have said this point for years. Our governments don't plan ahead. We are always playing catch up. And it's all down to poor planning, policy and the lack of desire to take the lead on the future. Any time we start a big project, by the time it is done. Especially if a major road, it ends up being over crowded itself, and there is little change in the roads it is meant to ease the pressure on. You only have to look at the massive joke that is the Docklands precinct. It should have been a city within the city, a live able location to envy, with lots of entertainment facilities to draw people and tourists. Instead its a cramped up, block after block of mid apartments, and a mostly dead shopping strip, and little to do there. I swear Australia is s**t house when it comes to designing and planning for the future compared to many Asian and European countries.
 

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