Australia's policy on climate change is completely inconsequential

[SaintsSeptember]

You why go on tour with that comedy act.

Because i'm not chanting the matra about the national KPI's its funny?

What was wrong with my suggestion regarding low emmission steel production in Australia?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

But you vote. And you argue your position here.

Steggall, and others who propose these policies to achieve zero net carbon dioxide emissions by 2050, need to explain how they can be achieved. And at what cost. And what difference it would make to the global climate.



That's waffle. Do you think China, India, Russia and USA look to Australia for leadership on this issue?

There's a fashion parade of politicians vying for votes based on climate change. Our policies make absolutely no difference but by voting for the right idiot it absolves their sins for having two cars, taking international trips, demanding reliable electricity.

Your argument is “let’s do nothing until others do something”.

It’s beyond idiotic.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Because i'm not chanting the matra about the national KPI's its funny?

What was wrong with my suggestion regarding low emmission steel production in Australia?

Because you said CO2 isn't a poison. If that's so then feel free to breathe only it for 20 minutes and tell me how you feel.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Your argument is “let’s do nothing until others do something”.

It’s beyond idiotic.

He decries aboriginals for not doing anything until the british came but wants us to do the same with climate change. The irony is palpable, which shouldn't be surprising given the source's money first mantra.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Your argument is “let’s do nothing until others do something”.

It’s beyond idiotic.

Your argument is let's do something even though we know it's idiotic.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Your argument is let's do something even though we know it's idiotic.

No, my argument is “lead by example”.

 

[Gough]

No, my argument is “lead by example”.

If we followed Scott Morrison's example we'd all be lardy infertile pieces of s**t who'd married the first person that touched their dick.

 

[Taylor]

Your argument is let's do something even though we know it's idiotic.

But at least it's something.

And if doing something doesn't result in the perfect weather we remember, we can just do more.

And if doing more doesn't fix it either, we can double down on it.

Eventually doubling down will turn into not doing enough.

Then we get back to doing more.

How hard is it to do more?

That's why it's such a great political club at the moment.

 

[Frank Bunn]

No, my argument is “lead by example”.

Like I said, idiotic.

It's ridiculous to think that the leading CO2 emitters - China, USA, India and Russia - would follow our example. They account for 65% of emissions, growing to about 75% by 2030.

 

[Deliverance]

Like I said, idiotic.

It's ridiculous to think that the leading CO2 emitters - China, USA, India and Russia - would follow our example. They account for 65% of emissions, growing to about 75% by 2030.

How about we transition to renewables and EVs and improve industrial efficiencies and plant trees and reduce deforestation for our own health? If we happen to impress the Chinese along the way all well and good.


"On the basis of these and related studies, it is clear that urban air pollution is a significant cause of death and illness in the community. By one estimate, there were close to 3000 deaths due to urban air pollution in 2003. This was 2.3 % of all deaths and nearly twice the national road toll."

"Most pollutants (carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, sulfur dioxide and PM2.5 particles) result from combustion (primary pollutants) (Table 3.7). Major sources include motor vehicles, industrial processes and domestic heating"

Ambient air quality

Although air pollution can harm vegetation, erode the facades of historic stone buildings and limit visibility, the main focus of public concern over air pollution is its short-term and long-term effects on human health. Over the past decade, scientific studies have greatly expanded our...

soe.environment.gov.au

 

[kranky al]

By removing the mining and coal industries in this country, which thus removes most of our biggest exports, will have a very obvious economic impact. This means people within these industries will lose their jobs, also having a flow-on effect to people in other non-related sectors.

Noones killing mining and coal mining loss can be more than offset by renewable energy export.

 

[Taylor]

Noones killing mining and coal mining loss can be more than offset by renewable energy export.

If it was worth all those billions, someone would already be exporting it.

 

[kranky al]

Like I said, idiotic.

It's ridiculous to think that the leading CO2 emitters - China, USA, India and Russia - would follow our example. They account for 65% of emissions, growing to about 75% by 2030.

Like i said idiotic

its ridiculous to think the non allied countries will see our paltry 1 million troops and follow us into ww2. They account for tens of millions of troops growing to twice those numbers by 1945!!!

 

[kranky al]

If it was worth all those billions, someone would already be exporting it.

Someone is already setting this up as we speak

Source:

Australia poised to export solar energy to Singapore

Australia could soon become a world-leader in exporting renewable energy with plans to transport solar power to Singapore. Sun Cable is the company behind

www.energymatters.com.au

 

[Taylor]

Like i said idiotic

its ridiculous to think the non allied countries will see our paltry 1 million troops and follow us into ww2. They account for tens of millions of troops growing to twice those numbers by 1945!!!

You don't need to make up a hypothetical, how is international pressure going against Russia annexing Crimea or the Indians and Chinese not putting their Muslims into camps?

 

[kranky al]

Mining will continue for other functions than those producing C02

Come on people, its been discussed over and over

They just like throwing distractions out there.

just like their beloved leader

 

[kranky al]

You don't need to make up a hypothetical, how is international pressure going against Russia annexing Crimea or the Indians and Chinese not putting their Muslims into camps?

Best give up then hey.

 

[EasternTiger]

I know a way to free up $1.3 billion a year for you lot to play around with in your quest to stop Global Worming.

It won't be a popular move though.

 

[Taylor]

Best give up then hey.

If your avenue to your goal isn't going to get you there then yes, you should absolutely give up on that course and come up with a new one to get to that goal

 

[kranky al]

If your avenue to your goal isn't going to get you there then yes, you should absolutely give up on that course and come up with a new one to get to that goal

Yeah i can see you saying the same things about the first cars as you hung on to your horse and buggy..

 

[Kwality]

Your argument is “let’s do nothing until others do something”.

It’s beyond idiotic.

Canning future generations by acting alone? While the rest of the world work on a solution.

'Grounds for Optimism'. Global CO2 Emissions Plateaued in 2019, According to a New Report

The figures defied widespread expectations of a rise

time.com

 

[Messenger]

Because you said CO2 isn't a poison. If that's so then feel free to breathe only it for 20 minutes and tell me how you feel.

It is plant food. So he’ll grow.

 

[Messenger]

If your avenue to your goal isn't going to get you there then yes, you should absolutely give up on that course and come up with a new one to get to that goal

You do the things you can do while working on other solutions.

 

[Kwality]

You do the things you can do while working on other solutions.

And exporting jobs needs to be questioned at every turn, e.g coal exports.

 

[Deliverance]

By removing the mining and coal industries in this country, which thus removes most of our biggest exports, will have a very obvious economic impact. This means people within these industries will lose their jobs, also having a flow-on effect to people in other non-related sectors.

Yep, just like car makers are gone, retail is dying, taxi drivers are getting ****ed over by ride share, restaurants screwed by uber eats, hotels hit by air bnb, etc, etc, etc.
Its what happens when another way of doing things comes along.
All of the above, we allowed to happen simply because he price was cheaper. At least we stand to gain major benefits from decarbonising our society. From the health of our air to improved prospects for our farmers.