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Bianconerri

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Nov 7, 2010
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AFL CAPTAINS were outstanding on the weekend.

Joel Selwood willed Geelong to victory against Carlton, which was skippered by a man, Chris Judd, who was, as always, courageous right to the end.

Essendon may have lost to the Sydney Swans, but Jobe Watson could not have done one thing more in defeat.

Matthew Pavlich took us back to 2005-08, a period where he secured four of his six All Australian guernseys, with an epic performance for Fremantle against Richmond.

Nick Riewoldt kicked seven goals to take his season tally to 31. He may not be the Riewoldt of 2009, or the half-dozen or so years before that, but he's still an outstanding player and captain for St Kilda, which battered Gold Coast.

Is Riewoldt the best captain in the AFL? Ask Scott Watters, his current coach, and he'd say yes.

He's probably not, though.

In his first season in charge of a team which has played in four Grand Finals for three premierships in the past five seasons, Joel Selwood already has that status.

He had well established his credentials as a player envied by just about everyone else who plays the game, but as of the half-way stage of his inaugural year as Cats leader, there is even more to envy.

He was born to be a captain. In year one as skipper, he's the benchmark.

Watson isn't too far behind him. Now in his third year as Bombers captain, he is dragging every single Essendon player along with him on this very exciting ride.

Leadership qualities can emerge from the most unusual and unlikely moments. Watson has had a lot of such occasions.

Being axed by his first coach Kevin Sheedy, and being told at that time that the game was being played in a way which was not for him, is now driving him to extraordinary feats.

There are so many ways to rank a captain. History counts for a lot, always will. But the "now" is the most important factor.

Only those who play for and work within footy clubs know the true worth of the men who lead their clubs.

Everyone else, it must be said, is guessing. But as with everything in footy, we on the outside all have views.

The Swans' Adam Goodes is the next best skipper. When he's best on ground, or near best on ground, the Swans win. Simple as that. His detractors may argue he can, on occasions, go missing in key periods of a game, but so what? It is not often. And he has been, and remains, as explosively dominant as any player going around.

There are many better players in the AFL than West Coast's captain Darren Glass. But his ability to lead the Eagles out of three disastrous seasons has been outstanding. This is his fifth year as player boss, and it seems certain to end at least in a second consecutive preliminary final appearance.

Glass was near best-afield in the Eagles' Grand Final win in 2006. His club imploded thereafter, yet he has stood up to everything with which it was deservedly hit, and yet in relatively short time he could be the man to take it to a fourth flag this year.

Chris Judd of 2012 is not Chris Judd of 2010 or 2004 (his Brownlow years) or any of his six All Australian seasons. But he is still very, very good, and about as good a leader as one can be.

Riewoldt could be described similarly. Still very, very good, but not as good as he has been. He's leading very well, though.

Hawthorn's Luke Hodge can not get a proper crack at things this year, and Richmond's Chris Newman is loved by absolutely everyone at his club and highly respected by people at other clubs.

Jonathan Brown, who would have been No.1 on this list three seasons ago, no longer demands a high placing here because of horrific injuries and age. Crow Nathan van Berlo is like Newman. Everyone at his club loves him, those outside it highly respect him.

Gary Ablett can't do anything more personally to lift his woeful Suns. One could argue he has somehow become a better player in his time as a Sun. That in itself warrants high respect as a captain.

Collingwood's Nick Maxwell is, and continues to be, the most intriguing of AFL captains. He has skippered a premiership, one of only two of the current crop to do so (Judd at West Coast in '06 is the other), has taken his team to another Grand Final, and yet still has a lot of convincing to do.

It is actually a compliment to him that he has achieved so much. And he is such a good guy, and leader, that he will happily hand over the Magpies leadership to Scott Pendlebury, probably at the end of this year.

That is true leadership.

Rating The Captains
1. Joel Selwood
2. Jobe Watson
3. Adam Goodes (Jarrad McVeigh)
4. Darren Glass
5. Chris Judd
6. Nick Riewoldt
7. Luke Hodge
8. Gary Ablett
9. Chris Newman
10. Matthew Pavlich
11. Nathan van Berlo (OK)
12. Jonathan Brown
13. Nick Maxwell
14. Matthew Boyd
15. Dom Cassisi
16. Andrew Swallow
17. Jack Trengove (Jack Grimes)
18. Callan Ward (Phil Davis, Luke Power)

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Thats about right Matty
Based on football ability he may be 13th, but only a moron would rate a captain, a position chosen because you are the best leader at the club, on footballing ability.

Just one question;

Who is the only captain on that list to have captained a flag in the last 5 years?:confused:

We play for premierships, not individual honours, and as captain there is no better then Maxwell, and it's great to hear Buckley say he will be captain again next year.
 

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Bianconerri you're starting to remind me of Krueger with all things MM and Buckley and Blessed with all things negative about everything. Most of us acknowledge that he's an average footballer, however he's an excellent leader of men which is why he's currently captain. All you're doing by continually potting him is showing that it's a personal agenda rather than what's best for the club.

FWIW using Damien Barret to enforce a point will win no one over on this board. He is the lowest of the low these days in terms of football media....
 
Bianconerri you're starting to remind me of Krueger with all things MM and Buckley and Blessed with all things negative about everything. Most of us acknowledge that he's an average footballer, however he's an excellent leader of men which is why he's currently captain. All you're doing by continually potting him is showing that it's a personal agenda rather than what's best for the club.

FWIW using Damien Barret to enforce a point will win no one over on this board. He is the lowest of the low these days in terms of football media....

There is no personal agenda scodog, i acknowledge he is a good citizen and has done/does great work in the community,he is an average footballer and always will be,he deserves to be scrutinized as i don`t rate him on the football field,that is all, Pendlebury,Shaw,Ball,are head and shoulders above him as on-field leaders, i won`t bother mentioning his place as a footballer as he is not in the top 25 at our club on that front.
 
Give us a spell Barrett, Maxwell at thirteen and Newman at nine - you are taking the p*ss.

Might not be the best player on the list, but his leadership on and off the field is top three IMO.
 
Gary Ablett abuses a young player on the ground and he goes above Maxwell, interesting.
 
There is no personal agenda scodog, i acknowledge he is a good citizen and has done/does great work in the community,he is an average footballer and always will be,he deserves to be scrutinized as i don`t rate him on the football field,that is all, Pendlebury,Shaw,Ball,are head and shoulders above him as on-field leaders, i won`t bother mentioning his place as a footballer as he is not in the top 25 at our club on that front.

It seems like it to me. You chose to single him out in the match day thread when he was far from our worst defender (that illustrious gong goes to O'Brien closely followed by Brown) and I've seen many a negative comment directed his way from you. He in tandem with Shaw are the glue that binds our defense together and even if he's not rated by some moron (Barret) he most certainly is internally, which is all that really matters IMO.
 
So a guy that has never captained anything rates on-field leadership at the highest level of the AFL. Can I ask on what authority does Barrett's opinion carry any weight? What part of his sports past gives him the clout to state this ranking of captains? Thought so...

His opinion rates as much as mine i.e. 4/5 of f**k all!
 

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The only important measure is that the Collingwood Football Club, the outgoing coach and the new coach, so much so he personally gave him his own famous number 5, and every one of his team mates rated him the ideal best player to be our Captain.

Barrett is that worm who slinks onto the Footy Show occasionally to stutter through a few common misconceptions and repeat a rumor or two isn't he?
 
Maxy is the general back there, ask any of the defenders down there and they will say he is the most important player down back. Yes he isnt a fantastic player but he sets the defence up and leads by example. 13th? GTFO

How can you lead by example when you just said he is not a fantastic player !gets absolutely towelled up one on one,if he is meant to be the loose man in defence , 7 disposals doesn`t cut it. Heath Shaw is the leader down back,who not only sets up the defence but actually beats his man one out on most occasions.
 
There's no need to get upset. It's a joke.

If you look closely, the article was supposedly written by Damien Barrett. What would Damien Barrett know about good leadership in a football team? Has he ever played a game? I could write an article about the 10 best cross-dressers in football journalism. No one would take any notice because I know NOTHING about cross-dressing.......but if Damien wrote the article, the whole world would listen....and rightly so..
 

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So a guy that has never captained anything rates on-field leadership at the highest level of the AFL. Can I ask on what authority does Barrett's opinion carry any weight? What part of his sports past gives him the clout to state this ranking of captains? Thought so...

His opinion rates as much as mine i.e. 4/5 of f**k all!

Probably something to do with being one of the most recognised AFL Journalists in the country and getting paid big bucks to analyse and report on the game.
 
Hahaha that was a good laugh, I don't know how Watson, Ablett and Newman are higher than Maxwell and Boyd. What a joke. It's funny to see Newman at 9th though.:p;)
 
Hahaha that was a good laugh, I don't know how Watson, Ablett and Newman are higher than Maxwell and Boyd. What a joke. It's funny to see Newman at 9th though.:p;)

I reckon it's because they're better leaders than Maxwell and Boyd. Take that with a grain of salt though...
 
Probably something to do with being one of the most recognised AFL Journalists in the country and getting paid big bucks to analyse and report on the game.

A "big bucks", "recognised AFL Journalist" might be enough authority for you mate. I'd rely more on coaches or teammates for an opinion.

Thanks very much for your input.
 

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