Best Forward Line - 2010

[RickSanchez]

He's funny, but not ha ha funny.

 

[SirJimi05]

The only bagging McKinley got was because of a lack of workrate, which he turned around near the end of the season.

A lack of workrate which was akey factor in poor performence. It's all related. The fact is West Coast supporters were calling for him to get dropped this season.

He was 21 this season, having played 31 games up until this year. For a CHF, that's nothing, but he took big a step forward this year; kicking 31 goals from 16 games and I expect him to build on that next year.

Yes when it comes to Neagle double standards are involved.

Monfries is actually a forward, Ebert is a midfielder in his second year, recovering from OP. And he's still better than Monfries.

More double standards. Hurley and Hille can't be included but a midfielder can?

Ah well, I'd better include Naitanui as our crumber then, he'll definately play in that position next year.

Stop being stupid. It is highly likely that Hurley will spend atleast 50% game time as a forward next season, probably more. If you really believe NN will spend that much time forward then include him by all means.

 

[SirJimi05]

They don't play anything alike. Monfries is more like a poor mans McKinley, they are much closer playing types. And Ebert is a better player.

Essendon was a bit harshly rated to be at 16th I agree.

So McKinley is your teams lead up forward with the structure revolving around him?

They were both drafted in the same year weren't they? Gus has been a consistant performer for us since he started out and has notched up almost 100 games. Can you say the samew for McKinley.

 

[Papa Juggs]

8. West Coast - Had to put my team in the 8..... But in all seriousness, Kennedy (ready to explode), Lynch (60 odd goals in 06), Lecras, Mckinley as well as (insert draftee here), and the occasional moving of Mitch Brown could finally be the buildings of a forward line down at West Coast

and again!!!

ROFLMAO

West Coast for the flag.

Bottom 4 team ffs.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Carlton's should be 17th. Even the Gold Coast atm have a better forward line than they do.

It's a fairly simple assertion to make I guess. It's just like getting a new coach. He's never coached at AFL level before so he is ranked last amongst the coaches. Our forward line is similar. None of these guys have played full forward before (well Waite has when Fev has missed a game or two) so they get ranked last.

It really doesn't mean our forward line is the worst, it just means we haven't done anything to earn a ranking full stop.

 

[Bosk]

Bit ridiculous to have Geelong below Colingwood and the Bulldogs. Maybe if you included in the analysis, the side’s best forward and the game’s best medium sized forward, Steve Johnson, you might have had them a bit higher.

Are you kidding? No forward line containing Mooney The Looney and Tom "SuperSpud" Hawkins should be ranked anywhere near the top.

The sole reason for Geelong's goalkicking is their midfield, their forwards are chronically underachieving.

 

[Slattery_20]

Well every other position has its own thread

This is how i see the forwards
16. Essendon - Someone has to get 16th, and unfortunately its Essendon (just in my opinion of course). Will be interesting to see the effect that Mark Williams has on the forward line, but my prediction is not much. Losing Lloyd and Lucas has meant that Neagle is the only Tall option in that forward line (if you want to include Hurley, who is a better backman)

As i said, this is a subjective list, based on my own opinion. You are welcome to challenge and question any calls i have made (that's what discussion is all about) but stupid comments and heated abuse are simply not necessary (Even though i state this, i guarantee you someone will still do it)

Feel free to make your own list

I'm not going to flat out disagree with you but I will say that I'm happy to bet our forward line will work better next year. At times the set-up with McPhee forward, Lloyd half-forward was just plain dysfunctional. If you're trying to make out the Lloyd/Lucas forward line was working in 2009, you're wrong. If you did a ranking in review, we'd be right down there in the bottom few.

Losing Lucas means nothing, he went a year too long anyway. Daniher is an upgrade on 2009 model Lucas, so then the question is 2010 model Williams better than 2010 model Lloyd... I'd say that answers itself.

The stage is set for Alan Richardson to earn his money, shape a good forward line out of Monfries/Daniher/Hurley/Williams/Hille etc etc. He got fantastic results out of some good ordinary players at Collingwood (Cloke/Anthony/Medhurst) and hopefully he can do it again.

 

[Slattery_20]

So McKinley is your teams lead up forward with the structure revolving around him?

They were both drafted in the same year weren't they? Gus has been a consistant performer for us since he started out and has notched up almost 100 games. Can you say the samew for McKinley.

He couldn't crack it in a flag team! End of the world!
Monfries hardly had a tough time cracking it into the 2006 line-up.
Let's be fair here.

He didn't play at the start of this year and it did take us a few years to de-Carltonify him.

Was he waiting for Lynch to tell him to feck off out of his space a la Fev? Scared to lead for fear of Ash Hansen cracking the sads for not having it kicked to him?

 

[kreuze_missile]

Kreuzer, Waite, Henderson, Robertson, Betts.

We roll 5 deep at Carlton. 5 forwards each good for 50 goals

 

[happy_eagle]

No one seems to be taking part in the thread

 

[On the Boyle]

I don't agree that we should be as high as we are, I think Brisbane, if they can settle, are better than us.
After all, Bradshaw hasn't left yet.
If he does go, I still think we may be a bit high.

As for the comment about Dew and Williams. I've said this before (not on BigFooty) - if we had lost Williams at the end of '08, I would have been devastated. As it was, thought it was for the best - Mark was over Hawthorn by the time he left, and it showed on-field.

Having had some internal involvement with Hawthorn, he had a bit of a reputation for not wanting to follow rules, as I'm sure was exhibited by his on-field antics. For me, no real loss. If anything, it gives Dowler the room to start stamping his name on his spot in the team. A Franklin, Roughead, Dowler forward line with Brown, Rioli and Osborne crumbing - beautiful.

As for Dew, I think we may have a replacement up our sleeve in Burgoyne, I can see him racking up the same goal count as Dew, with about the same injury problems.

 

[AG]

O'Keefe will play midfield next year. Goodes at CHF with White and Bradshaw deep in the F50. We have good talls but still lack the proper crumbing forward. Veszpremi is meant to be that player but he will take a bit more time. I'm hoping McGlynn takes the tagging duties in the midfield and that allows Jack to spend more time in the forward line.

Hawthorn and St Kilda have the best forward line. Melbourne probably have the worst with Bate and Jurrah the only permanent fixtures at this stage. Next year should see Watts and Wonna play the majority of the year but they still need a big body at CHF.

 

[Bloods Rule!]

O'Keefe will play midfield next year. Goodes at CHF with White and Bradshaw deep in the F50. We have good talls but still lack the proper crumbing forward. Veszpremi is meant to be that player but he will take a bit more time. I'm hoping McGlynn takes the tagging duties in the midfield and that allows Jack to spend more time in the forward line.

Goodes, Bradshaw and White as the Triple Towers will be pretty formidable. It's just who does the crumbing. Veszpremi or Moore would be the guess, depending who steps up best. But it'd be hard to discount the fire power of the tall line up for the Swans.

 

[Roxley]

This list is spot on

West coast should easily be infront of Essendon

Neagle is a shocker, Hurley is a backman, Hille is a ruckman, Riemers couldnt even make your best 22 come finals time, Gumbleton cant get on the field.
This just leaves with you with Williams, Monfries, Davey who are all smalls

West coast on the other hand have Kennedy who is a more promising forward than Neagle and Hurley put together.
Le Cras who is capable of kicking more goals than Williams and Reimers put together.
Mckinley who will be a better small than monfries this season.
And Lynch who is a better tall forward option than Hille.

 

[winty]

Are you kidding? No forward line containing Mooney The Looney and Tom "SuperSpud" Hawkins should be ranked anywhere near the top.

The sole reason for Geelong's goalkicking is their midfield, their forwards are chronically underachieving.

Isn't that the same for every team? How do you think the ball gets down there in the first place?

Obviously you missed Hawkins' last two finals if you still think he's a super spud. He was probably the best tall forward on the ground in the Prelim, and was equally as serviceable in the grand final. Those two players you named managed to kick 4 goals against the most frugal defence in the league on grand final day, in conditions that didn't do any favours for tall forwards.

 

[BK Eaglesfan]

8. West Coast - Had to put my team in the 8..... But in all seriousness, Kennedy (ready to explode), Lynch (60 odd goals in 06), Lecras, Mckinley as well as (insert draftee here), and the occasional moving of Mitch Brown could finally be the buildings of a forward line down at West Coast

Not sure why a couple of people are getting so hairy chested about where the OP has placed the Eagles. Have another read of this.

First sentence there is acknowledgement that there is a little bit of bias there. So 8 is probably a tad high, even in the OP's mind.

Someone has thrown the Brown situation up...the OP has even said specifically 'the occasional moving'.

Last line, read it over. 'Could finally be the buildings of a forward line' doesn't sound like someone who is unrealistic about suggesting the forward line is question is a superstar line up.

Typical Big Footy stuff really. Don't like your team's place in someone's list of something, attack their team's placement. FWIW, I think there is potentially 3 or 4 teams ahead of Essendon that shouldn't be. That's 3 or 4, and again FWIW the Eagles aren't one of them.

 

[Slattery_20]

This list is spot on

West coast should easily be infront of Essendon

Neagle is a shocker, Hurley is a backman, Hille is a ruckman, Riemers couldnt even make your best 22 come finals time, Gumbleton cant get on the field.
This just leaves with you with Williams, Monfries, Davey who are all smalls

West coast on the other hand have Kennedy who is a more promising forward than Neagle and Hurley put together.
Le Cras who is capable of kicking more goals than Williams and Reimers put together.
Mckinley who will be a better small than monfries this season.
And Lynch who is a better tall forward option than Hille.

I'm not going to jump up and down about much here, but when was the last time Kennedy kicked 3 in the 2nd half to pull his side over the line?
And Williams has a couple of 60 goal seasons that say he can kick more than Le Cras.

 

[Claude Balls]

Are you kidding? No forward line containing Mooney The Looney and Tom "SuperSpud" Hawkins should be ranked anywhere near the top.

The sole reason for Geelong's goalkicking is their midfield, their forwards are chronically underachieving.

Why do people flame Mooney so bad, especially Hawks supporters? Is it just because he's not well liked? Or becuase he was a bit lucky to get an AA gig two years ago?

He's actually a pretty good 'footballer', who can take a nice contested mark, is fairly mobile, is technically a very good kick, and generally presents well for 6-8 marks a game... His only big knock is that he's very shaky under pressure kicking at goal, and is generally a bit of a nutter. Otherwise he ticks a lot of boxes.

Sure he doesn't sit in the top bracket along with Franklin, Brown, Fev, Riewoldt and co. but he is good enough to have provided Geelong with the structure required to dominate for 3 years. And no, your Grandma couldn't have dominated playing for Geelong - don't be stupid.

 

[BK Eaglesfan]

Why do people flame Mooney so bad, especially Hawks supporters? Is it just because he's not well liked? Or becuase he was a bit lucky to get an AA gig two years ago?

He's actually a pretty good 'footballer', who can take a nice contested mark, is fairly mobile, is technically a very good kick, and generally presents well for 6-8 marks a game...

Sure he doesn't sit in the top bracket along with Franklin, Brown, Fev, Riewoldt and co. but he is good enough to have provided Geelong with the structure required to dominate for 3 years. And no, your Grandma couldn't have dominated playing for Geelong - don't be stupid.

The 2007 - 2009 version of Quentin Lynch. Lynch is a complete spud who only managed to kick 65 goals in 2006 because grandma could have too apparently.

 

[Claude Balls]

BTW, if the Bulldogs had the 5th best forward line in the competition they would have played in the Grand Final this year. A 33 year old makes no difference in this regard.

 

[Claude Balls]

The 2007 - 2009 version of Quentin Lynch. Lynch is a complete spud who only managed to kick 65 goals in 2006 because grandma could have too apparently.

Yeah, it gives me the shits. Take the Dogs for example: they are very good team with a fleet of highly skilled running players delivering the pill inside 50. If someone's Grandma could fill the role because the rest of the team is so good, why can't Will Minson do the job?

 

[Sttew]

Are you kidding? No forward line containing Mooney The Looney and Tom "SuperSpud" Hawkins should be ranked anywhere near the top.

The sole reason for Geelong's goalkicking is their midfield, their forwards are chronically underachieving.

Well Bosk - here's the $64,000 question: Would you rather a team with a star studded forward line that can't make the finals, or a team with what you call a "chronically under achieving" forward line that wins the 2009 premiership?

Forward lines are over rated.

 

[winty]

Well Bosk - here's the $64,000 question: Would you rather a team with a star studded forward line that can't make the finals, or a team with what you call a "chronically under achieving" forward line that wins the 2009 premiership?

Forward lines are over rated.

But...but...but...didn't you know? Hawthorn had half their side injured all season, while every other side was injury free.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Franklin, Roughead, Osborne, Dowler, Brown, Hodge, Burgoyne, Rioli....

Hard to top.

 

[AG]

Franklin, Roughead, Osborne, Dowler, Brown, Hodge, Burgoyne, Rioli....

Hard to top.

Are those three even going to play forward next year?