Big 4 Voters , Thoughts please

[IDGAF]

Very interested to hear from all those vocal , pro Macek/Schwab people and thier thoughts on the result and where this leaves Richmond , in thier opinions .

Damning result in anyones language . Are we all that stupid?

 

[Infamy]

I'm no alternative supporter but...

Its Miller's fault

 

[Rockridge]

A landslide victory for the Casey Group, now can we please all accept it and get on with supporting the tigers, leave the bitching and carry on for the happy team at Dawk Land

 

[Hammerfire]

You can say Casey getting re-elected was because of Miller, but the entire ticket??

 

[oxx]

Here here,

let's leave this crap behind and start bagging the players again

Must say I'm happy with the outcome and am looking 4ward to the rebuilding process.

Eat 'em Alive in 05.

 

[tigerdan]

Life goes on...

 

[oxx]

Some boards are by choice run according to a democratic system (OER,BigFooty) and one is run like a brothel hiding wilted, moral values and a desire to exercise administrative powers that even Hitler would have laughed at.
I find it alarming that the media refers to rosy'sworld as the official unofficial RFC web site,especially with it's recent Pahoffian,Propoganderous assault on the Casey Admin.
It certainly did nothing of great merit although the natives will claim otherwise
listing reasons from public awareness to partial responsibility if things work out.
Personally I see their efforts as ego induced,misinformed rampage that symbolises our last 20 years as a club but more importantly the supporters attitude that was the driving force behind such manic desperation.

It's time for a new era.

I know who's voices I listen to.

OER and BigFooty - RFC websites for RFC people

 

[Infamy]

I saw Charles Macek on the tv for the first time on the news tonight
I think he's left it a little late to make tv appearances discussing the election

 

[bluehouse]

I agree wholeheartedly Oxx.

The campaign against Miller by Rosy and Clayton and their mates was nothing short of slanderous and unbalanced. They put themselves ahead of the club during this election campaign. Their bias was obvious to the majority of richmond members and supporters who have voiced their will clearly. Of course to these people we have just been duped by Miller and Co. We are stupid, naiive people whose opinions are misguided. Oxx, the Hitler reference was sadly spot on - maybe throw in an Orwellian reference as well. You cannot disagree with these people. I've put them on notice - Rosy put up a blistering campaign against wallace as well prior to his signing, and clayton was right behind her.

 

[Harry Bosch]

lets not go overboard fellas

yes rosy and clayton were very pro alternative , but so what??

there were plenty of people on sites like OER(inlcuding admins) who were equally pro Casey etc..

Just because someone has a different opinion to you does not make them biased...

and whats this campaign against Miller and Wallace????
stop being paranoid..

 

[Jumpin' Jimmy]

Heard a BIG whisper Rosy has pulled the pin as PRE's prima donna.

Not surprising given her disgraceful performance over recent months.
How gullible was she to listen to Pahoff, Clayton and Schwab?

Luckily the fans are not totally stupid as we would have ended up with those 3 running the club and Mark Harvey as coach.

 

[Infamy]

Just because someone has a different opinion to you does not make them biased...

Actually they are biased
Anyone who has an opinion on an issue is biased
As for Rosy, she must walk in circles she leans so far towards the alternative


Jimmy - How does anything involving PRE count as a "BIG whisper"?

 

[oxx]

Glad to hear it Bluehouse.

Orwellian indeed!
God knows the site looks like it's still in 1984

It's the glaringly obvious hidden agenda that irks me.

If the gargoylian witch and her peers were to be exposed for the exercising all this in the name of the RFC it would be very interesting which way the broom would fly.
Reality suggests that pre has become a port of call for journo's when hunting for backup on defamatory rumors and inuendos,nothing more.

One wonders what would have happened if the mk ticket had gotten in and behaved in a manner that would have pleased such a mentality.

The underhanded technique of rosy,imo,represents what has been the problem within our club.
Bored,severely under-qualified individuals looking to create internal dramas which in turn will be undeniably resolved by themselves,creating a further term of uncertainty for all except the visionless-themselves.

 

[oxx]

lets not go overboard fellas

yes rosy and clayton were very pro alternative , but so what??

there were plenty of people on sites like OER(inlcuding admins) who were equally pro Casey etc..

Just because someone has a different opinion to you does not make them biased...

and whats this campaign against Miller and Wallace????
stop being paranoid..

fair enuff Harry but most pro Casey boards sprung up in response to the
mounting imbalance of the pre Macek campaign......and they won.

 

[bluehouse]

Jumpin Jim,

Apparently according to Harry Bosch you and I are paranoid.
These people wholeheartedly supported Wallace as coach, then Miller in what he has been trying to do We're not the ones who are paranoid Hey Jimmy. We won't let history be re-written to allow some people to rationalise their behaviour in the past, and reinvent themselves. I've got no problems with people having an alternative view, I do have a problem when they make it personal and patronise people with alternative views, and in the campaign resort to dirty tactics against certain candidates and their history. I will respect these people more if they stand behind their position on some of these key people such as wallace and miller in the future. At least they will be consistent and remain tru to their convictions. Harry you obviously weren't around when some people were trying to stop wallace from being signed.

 

[bluehouse]

"It's the glaringly obvious hidden agenda that irks me!
Reality suggests that pre has become a port of call for journo's when hunting for backup on defamatory rumors and inuendos,nothing more."

Right on Oxx

Of course their opinions are based only on facts and "inner knowledge" and their campaign is only for the good of our club - such martyrs

 

[Hammerfire]

While i am hardly PRE's biggest fan, a couple of you guys are a bit over paranoid.

While Rosy, Clayton, Phantom n co. have their little group who is Pro-Macek, there are a lot of guys on PRE who are Anti-Alternative.

Opinions on who should coach were split between a lot of PRE'enders.

Yes Rosy runs the site biasedly towards the alternative, but not as much as you guys would like to make out.

 

[Hammerfire]

Or put simply:

Rosy is to The Big 4 as Oxx n co. are to Casey's ticket

 

[oxx]

Or put simply:

Rosy is to The Big 4 as Oxx n co. are to Casey's ticket

Difference is,if put in the position,we wouldn't delete threads that we felt "may harm our reputation" or possibly alter the opinions of others.

 

[Jumpin' Jimmy]

Jumpin Jim,

Apparently according to Harry Bosch you and I are paranoid.
These people wholeheartedly supported Wallace as coach, then Miller in what he has been trying to do We're not the ones who are paranoid Hey Jimmy. We won't let history be re-written to allow some people to rationalise their behaviour in the past, and reinvent themselves. I've got no problems with people having an alternative view, I do have a problem when they make it personal and patronise people with alternative views, and in the campaign resort to dirty tactics against certain candidates and their history. I will respect these people more if they stand behind their position on some of these key people such as wallace and miller in the future. At least they will be consistent and remain tru to their convictions. Harry you obviously weren't around when some people were trying to stop wallace from being signed.

It's only paranoia if its wrong. What the PRE mob were doing was very wrong, underhanded and unAustralian with the result that RFC members rejected it totally 9-0.

 

[oxx]

It's only paranoia if its wrong. .

Classic.

 

[Hammerfire]

I dont get what he means by that statement.

 

[oxx]

saying he's justified in having that outlook.

If he wasn't, he'd accept paranoia as a label.

 

[Hammerfire]

So his saying because he thinks his 100% right that it should be classed as an opinion, not paranoia?

 

[froars]

maybe throw in an Orwellian reference as well

More like Orwell’s Animal Farm where a political revolution of farm animals (Pahpig, Claychook and Rosycow) against the farmer (Casey) who owns all, works the animal population hard, sends their offspring to slaughter, and feeds them little.

Orwell describes corruption (self-interest in being martyrs lol) that undermines the goal of the revolution: in which those leading the revolution (see aforementioned) rally the masses not so much for the good of the masses (the RFC supporters in toto), but so that the leaders can assume the role of master (despot), complete with all of the oppressive conduct that goes with an authoritarian regime (be pro Casey and you suffer the consequences).

This is the farce that is PRE – they blamed Casey for being too despotic, underhanded etc – and right before our eyes on a daily basis, we saw the same things happening on that site through an intimidation of words and deleting posts that didn’t suit their cause.

I challenge you Hammerhead to go back and re-read all that crap on PRE and not think posters were not intimidated to say what they think for fear of being attacked by very literate posters who could string a few words together – thus intimidating the majority of RFC supporters lol

OER was pro Casey, but we had a few people – 1980 being one – who was given a fair go and allowed to say what he thought. Not many agreed with him, and challenged him, but never did it happen that he wasn’t allowed to have his say – nor do I think was he intimidated and was free to say what he liked, how he liked, whenever he liked without fear of repercussions. It made for good reading, and he put his case very well.

Anything the club does from now on – whether it be good or whatever – will be put down I’m sure. The club cannot win when there are these kinds of supporters ready to stab them in the back in a heartbeat.

They are a disgrace, pure and simple. Makes me mad also when one of the ringleaders hardly ever goes to any Richmond games and just sits on it’s fat arse all day on a computer trying to make itself a hero of the masses.

When Pahpigs fly will that ever happen!