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Injury Blue Healers Medical Room - 2021
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There's now considerable data on how, when and why AFL will return from an ACL injury.
Several factors lean toward a successful return for Marchbank:
1. it was the knee on his non preferred size (this a huge factor apparently)
2. He was a high draft pick
3. he's not a 'light' player'.
Anterior Cruciate Ligament Injuries in Australian Rules Football: Incidence, Prevention and Return to Play Outcomes - PMC
Australian Rules football is the most popular of the various codes of football played in Australia. During the game players perform frequent landing, cutting and pivoting manoeuvres that expose them to substantial risk for anterior cruciate ligament ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Rd 1 is March 17 next year.
3 weeks shy of a full year since Marchy did his ACL.
Could he play Rd 1?
Absolutely. The reality is that recovery and remediation has come along in leaps and bounds (presuming no setbacks).
Cuners?
May 17, so 5 weeks later than Marchy.
He too did his non preferred knee.
Not inconceivable that he could be ready by Rd 1, but no doubt they'll be conservative with both players....
Not sure your point 3. is quite on the money. Within the article one reference (Liptak MG, Angel KR) purports that you are correct. However, another referenced article, within the article (38. Lai CCH, Feller JA, Webster KE) states that :
…injury-related factors such as the preferred kicking limb…have not been shown to be related to player return to preinjury level of performance.
Thus, whether it’s their preferred kicking leg that’s had the ACL rupture may have no bearing on how quickly they return to their pre-injury playing levels.
My thoughts are that it’d be better to injure your ACL on your preferred kicking leg. It’s your non preferred kicking leg that is the anchor leg/stabilising leg that bears the weight when you kick. Furthermore it’s usually the non preferred kicking leg which is more powerful in pushing movements -jumping. Having said this, I don’t know from personal experience as I’ve never injured my ACL, thankfully!
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Marchbank and Cuners have always been injury prone. Even if they achieve continuity in their body, they still need to find consistency to be considered best 22
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Agree- and that's exactly the disappointing aspect also. They're both genuinely best 22 talents and exciting players.
I think we all forget just how good Marchbank was looking a few year back. He's not a KPD and should never be counted as such, but he's genuinely a brilliant third-tall intercept player with high footy IQ. IF we can get his body right, get some continuity into his game, then damn that is going to be an amazing backline with Weitering, Jones, and Marchbank patrolling the airways.
Cunners could be anything. We really need to see him up and around the ball more. It's been touched on numerous times but he doesn't seem to have huge footy IQ, which is why having him drawn to the action and hunting the ball is the way to go with him. He does his best work in and around traffic and congestion and is dynamic breaking through that. Running patterns in space are questionable. Look back at that game against the Bombers this year, that is a sign of what Cunners can be and it's dangerous. He's one of the best distributors by foot in the team and whenever he's kicking inside-50 he always makes good things happen.
Maybe I need to reign back in my excitement about these two players as it may never happen, but both are huge talents and easily best 22 when fit.
Edit: It's not so much the return from ACLs that I'm worried about with these two, it's the continued damage their bodies are taking.
Your 'thoughts' directly contradict the findings of the study.
" Players who injured their dominant side were found to be 9 times less likely to play again compared to players who injured their non-dominant side in the initial AFL audit by Liptak et al.16 "
A bit more on RTS processes and protocols.
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A couple of weeks off over Xmas break is all that is allowed.
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After surgery, you may be immobilized in a splint for the first 10-14 days. You will typically be kept non-weightbearing for 6-8 weeks and then allowed to put weight on your foot in a cast or boot. Swelling persists for many months after this surgery. Stiffness can be problem and physical therapy often is necessary.
Full recovery 6 months Azza
10 weeks to full recovery.
The 4 weeks of required rest off his feet. That gives him 4 weeks of full training before round 1, if all goes well.
After surgery, you may be immobilized in a splint for the first 10-14 days. You will typically be kept non-weightbearing for 6-8 weeks and then allowed to put weight on your foot in a cast or boot. Swelling persists for many months after this surgery. Stiffness can be problem and physical therapy often is necessary.
Full recovery 6 months Azza
Sure it can vary. Reckon some players come up with a syndesmosis then back within 2-3 months.
After surgery, you may be immobilized in a splint for the first 10-14 days. You will typically be kept non-weightbearing for 6-8 weeks and then allowed to put weight on your foot in a cast or boot. Swelling persists for many months after this surgery. Stiffness can be problem and physical therapy often is necessary.
Full recovery 6 months Azza
Depends on the severity, but yes that might be the timeframe. Unfortunately, Stocker is a bloke that needs more KMs to continue to build stamina/endurance
Stick him in a pool and crank up the laps
Thanks for sharing. Nice to know the “state of the nation”. Tough for Stock when so much competition or both midfield and defensive spots. Won’t want to be affording others the chance to consolidate a spot in his absence.
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the syndesmosis is more scared of stock to be fair.
Average recovery time is 6-10 weeks according to this.
www.aflplayers.com.au
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One year the injury gods will smile down upon us.
Until that time they can go and get ****ed.
Until that time they can go and get ****ed.
