Bluemour Discussion Thread III

[KnobHead]

Stay calm, relax. Breathe deep.

if we aren't doing deals it's because it's not to our advantage. prefer no deal to a crap deal.

 

[inyourcool]

The next 10 years worth of 1st round picks according to trade media!

And we should be grateful

 

[passmark]

TBA

Sounds expensive.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

*Saw MS3 had posted in Blumour file*, hopes went up... then went down. So far down.

 

[ferrisb]

It's interesting the Fyfe 2017 vs Fyfe 2018 debate. Obviously there are the issues of, if we can get him now or wait and SEE if we can get him next year is a big debate but the one i want to bring up is the "for free" vs "trading picks part"

What those in the "for free" boat don't realise, I think, is that if we wait for Fyfe to be a free agent next year, not only do we have to hope he still wants to come here. But we have to put in an offer so big as to scare Freo away from matching or we'd have to trade picks anyway. Plus we'd have to outbid other clubs.

Say we end up offering Ffyfe 1.1million over four years as a free agent. We get him for "FREE" right? What if it's not right though. Looking at Sydney, and how Buddy Franklin's huge salary is hemorrhaging their salary cap. Players like Tom Mitchell are walking out and likely so. If they weren't such a strong club pre Buddy Franklin i think you'd have a lot of the Kennedy's, Parkers and Hannebery's walking out as well.

So the argument is, we can have Fyfe and two first round picks playing for us in 2018. Or we can have Fyfe and two less first round picks in 2017. What if our pick leaves the club in 2019 because we've paid Fyfe over the top to get him across. Signing him now and paying him less, like 800k a season, may be better in the long term

I think there are clearly two sides to this debate and one is not the clear cut answer.

Don't quite agree, FBI.

Why would Fyfe agree to be traded this year to a team paying him $800k/year when he could leave next year and get $1.1M?

It might be worth it to a club to spend some picks to save $300k/year. But not to Fyfe...

He (and his manager) know his salary worth. Let's say it's $1M/year. He won't care if the team trades for him or gets him as RFA. They will do whatever maximises his contract. And that would probably be to wait a year, get teams into a bidding war and entice a team to make a crazy FA offer, boosted by the fact that they are getting him 'for free'. Also, that team is now in a better long-term position, after having not given up 2 x 1st rounders or whatever.

I just can't see them agreeing to take a big haircut* so a club avoids a bidding war.




* and if anything, he NEEDS a big haircut!

 

[SHOWEY]

I really feel right now, SOS is doing one of two things:

1. Trying desperately to close small deals and sort out this gibbs deal because we aren't as attractive a destination club as we may think to other players. or,
2. Cooking up something so big it will trump the Mitchell/Lewis mic drops and make us bow down.

Feel like it's the second and no-one will be questioning SOS after this.

#insoswetrust #timetobutterthepopcorn #strapin

 

[SHOWEY]

afl.com.au

JUST IN: GIANT JAMES STEWART WANTS A TRADE TO ESSENDON

This just popped up on the Bombers' website. GWS forward James Stewart has nominated them as his preferred club.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

I really feel right now, SOS is doing one of two things:

1. Trying desperately to close small deals and sort out this gibbs deal because we aren't as attractive a destination club as we may think to other players. or,
2. Cooking up something so big it will trump the Mitchell/Lewis mic drops and make us bow down.

Feel like it's the second and no-one will be questioning SOS after this.

#insoswetrust #timetobutterthepopcorn #strapin

Let's hope so.

 

[Coops93]

Why would Fyfe agree to be traded this year to a team paying him $800k/year when he could leave next year and get $1.1M?

Because there isn't a guarantee he would leave at all.

Didn't MS3 say that Freo are planning on matching the deal? I don't think it has much to do with money. I think he just wants out.

 

[BoltonsBlues]

Big things on the move in the next hour and a bit.. my bowels might just cave after all the halipenios n spicy food

 

[Malifice]

afl.com.au

JUST IN: GIANT JAMES STEWART WANTS A TRADE TO ESSENDON

This just popped up on the Bombers' website. GWS forward James Stewart has nominated them as his preferred club.

First victim of our 'You snooze you lose' approach to trading.

 

[LanceRomance]

Big things on the move in the next hour and a a bit.. my bowels might just cave after all the halipenios n spicy food

what things?

 

[SafeAsMilk]

afl.com.au

JUST IN: GIANT JAMES STEWART WANTS A TRADE TO ESSENDON

This just popped up on the Bombers' website. GWS forward James Stewart has nominated them as his preferred club.

Happy with that. I wasn't super keen on him and it'll mean we have to give up less in the Marchbank deal.

 

[mickelboy182]

Big things on the move in the next hour and a a bit.. my bowels might just cave after all the halipenios n spicy food

Try again

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

First victim of our 'You snooze you lose' approach to trading.

Not a big deal. How many stop gap forwards can we retain anyway?

 

[DollarsandSense]

afl.com.au

JUST IN: GIANT JAMES STEWART WANTS A TRADE TO ESSENDON

This just popped up on the Bombers' website. GWS forward James Stewart has nominated them as his preferred club.

I think that this is a bit disappointing, he would have been good for us up front.
I have a sense that we are chasing the big fish (Fyfe) and we are going to miss everything.......

 

[BoltonsBlues]

what things?

Mostly pizza base

 

[BringBackSimmo]

afl.com.au

JUST IN: GIANT JAMES STEWART WANTS A TRADE TO ESSENDON

This just popped up on the Bombers' website. GWS forward James Stewart has nominated them as his preferred club.

Seems a little odd if he wants more opportunity... surely he'd have more opportunity in our forward line? Not that it's really much of an issue, him not coming to us, to be fair.

 

[BoltonsBlues]

Try again

U new what i ment. Was in rush post mode

 

[Stig O'Hara]

First victim of our 'You snooze you lose' approach to trading.

Wouldn't say he was worth a bidding war.

 

[bad setanta]

afl.com.au

JUST IN: GIANT JAMES STEWART WANTS A TRADE TO ESSENDON

This just popped up on the Bombers' website. GWS forward James Stewart has nominated them as his preferred club.

Yes, great news.

 

[themax]

I think that this is a bit disappointing, he would have been good for us up front.
I have a sense that we are chasing the big fish (Fyfe) and we are going to miss everything.......

Yes with nothing being done at this time we do worry.

BUT I think SOS has something else that is better and has advised Stewart that we are no longer interested and he has then nominated *

 

[Malifice]

Not a big deal. How many stop gap forwards can we retain anyway?

Because its a tough gig to squeeze into our forward line?

Watch Essendon cough up a third rounder for him.

 

[Golden Tonsils]

I really feel right now, SOS is doing one of two things:

1. Trying desperately to close small deals and sort out this gibbs deal because we aren't as attractive a destination club as we may think to other players. or,
2. Cooking up something so big it will trump the Mitchell/Lewis mic drops and make us bow down.

Feel like it's the second and no-one will be questioning SOS after this.

#insoswetrust #timetobutterthepopcorn #strapin

Let's hope so.

Can't wait to brag about how good SOS is

#insoswetrust #anyminutenow #lidsoff

 

[LanceRomance]

Yes with nothing being done at this time we do worry.

BUT I think SOS has something else that is better and has advised Stewart that we are no longer interested and he has then nominated *

like what?


The rejection stings me