Rumour Bluemour Discussion thread

[zeeCFC]

I follow soccer teams where guys have the UAE's stockpile of oil in their hair. Appreciate the hairstyles we have in the AFL.

 

[Jatz]

I follow soccer teams where guys have the UAE's stockpile of oil in their hair. Appreciate the hairstyles we have in the AFL.

Who do you follow?

 

[zeeCFC]

Quit the Duncan talk, won't happen.

 

[Jatz]

Quit the Duncan talk, won't happen.

Alright killjoy

 

[PumpyChowdown]

Motlop would be a good Yaz replacement. Duncan would be an incredible get but I can't see Geelong even entertaining the idea of him leaving.

I just don't like Motlop's attitude. I want committed players that are disciplined and show courage and leadership. Motlop has the talent, but lacks the other aspects.

Agree about Duncan, no way would the Cats let him go, but you never know...stranger things have happened...

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I posted this in the other thread, but I think its valid given the discussion here:

People need to relax and think about this logically.

For Carlton to announce so far out from the trade period and before the season is done and dusted that Henderson is leaving... it obviously means that we have come to some sort of agreement that we are satisfied enough with to a) announce he's gone and b) pull him for the rest of the year.

Don't be naive to think that clubs wait until the beginning of trade period to discuss this. All signs are pointing that its done.

First round pick is on it's way.

 

[HARKER]

I posted this in the other thread, but I think its valid given the discussion here:
People need to relax and think about this logically.
For Carlton to announce so far out from the trade period and before the season is done and dusted that Henderson is leaving... it obviously means that we have come to some sort of agreement that we are satisfied enough with to a) announce he's gone and b) pull him for the rest of the year.

Don't be naive to think that clubs wait until the beginning of trade period to discuss this. All signs are pointing that its done.

First round pick is on it's way.

That's logical and likely right but deals can be broken.

Can't sign a player yet but an agreement-in-principle can be executed outside the AFL needing to know.

I'm just wondering what that deal may be because it would have to be a simple one. i.e. Involving only one club

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

That's logical and likely right but deals can be broken.

Can't sign a player yet but an agreement-in-principle can be executed outside the AFL needing to know.

We signed an in principle agreement with Melbourne for McLean and publicly aired it, not sure if there was any backlash.

 

[HARKER]

We signed an in principle agreement with Melbourne for McLean and publicly aired it, not sure if there was any backlash.

Forgotten about that.

The fact that we've pulled Henderson for the last three games gives further support to there having been a deal done..........we'll see.

Geelong may have even requested it.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Forgotten about that.

The fact that we've pulled Henderson for the last three games gives further support to there having been a deal done..........we'll see.

Geelong may have even requested it.

Yep.

We are satisfied with whats coming our way, and this far out - my guess its a first round pick.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Forgotten about that.

The fact that we've pulled Henderson for the last three games gives further support to there having been a deal done..........we'll see.

GWS may have even requested it.

...please please please please please...

 

[Jamie007]

Where has all this talk of Bell wanting out come from. He looks like he has some passion for the jumper. Very very surprised if this was true.

 

[HARKER]

...please please please please please...

Why would GWS be desperate for Henderson? They don't know what to do with all their KPP as it is.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Why would GWS be desperate for Henderson? They don't know what to do with all their KPP as it is.

Their backline is a bit more bare than the forward line. If it eventuates, I think it would need to be predicated by SOS convincing Treloar to nominate us, and Henderson + maybe our second getting Treloar and their second.

If Treloar doesn't nominate us specifically then you'd think Hendo goes straight to Geelong.

 

[HARKER]

Their backline is a bit more bare than the forward line. If it eventuates, I think it would need to be predicated by SOS convincing Treloar to nominate us, and Henderson + maybe our second getting Treloar and their second.

If Treloar doesn't nominate us specifically then you'd think Hendo goes straight to Geelong.

Davis, #14 Corr, #6 Marchbank are all/will be good key defenders with McCarthy also able to go back.

Forward line though: Patton, Cameron, McCarthy, Stewart, Tomlinson..........Pretty sure they don't need Henderson

 

[ODNBlue]

If we get Treloar then Hendo will go back onto my Christmas card list...

 

[The Bighouse]

Where has all this talk of Bell wanting out come from. He looks like he has some passion for the jumper. Very very surprised if this was true.

Talk has been returning to Brisbane, and then combined with our/Trigg's interest in Aish.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Their backline is a bit more bare than the forward line. If it eventuates, I think it would need to be predicated by SOS convincing Treloar to nominate us, and Henderson + maybe our second getting Treloar and their second.

If Treloar doesn't nominate us specifically then you'd think Hendo goes straight to Geelong.

And if treloar nominates us, we have the threat of PSD to use as leverage.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Forgotten about that.

The fact that we've pulled Henderson for the last three games gives further support to there having been a deal done..........we'll see.

Geelong may have even requested it.

To utilise some recent learning, this evidence is a "Smoking Gun" type evidence to prove the "Henderson to Geelong is a done deal" hypothesis. This validates the idea that Henderson will depart, a necessary pre-condition.

Geelong's stated interest fills a hoop test. They must want Henderson for the deal to have been done.

If Henderson were to request a trade to Geelong this would validate a hoop test. He must want to go there for a deal to have been done.

Geelong having a pick in Carlton's preferred range is a straw in the wind. It supports the evidence, and is consistent with the idea, but does not prove it.

There are no Doubly Decisive pieces of evidence, which simultaneously prove the hypothesis and eliminate alternatives

 

[ferrisb]

Holy shiz, if MS3 is right I will eat a replica Andrew Walker hat and stream it.

Mods: No LIVE stream requests please!

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I think its smart and calculated also by Geelong.

Getting this deal done so early in the piece, then puts doubt into Adelaide's mind, about Geelong now not being able to make a trade happen (given they dont have the currency) - and more inclined to release him as a free agent and get what they can as compensation (1st round pick).

No club wants to keep a player who doesnt want to be there, there is definitely a science to it.

 

[Blue__Balls]

To utilise some recent learning, this evidence is a "Smoking Gun" type evidence to prove the "Henderson to Geelong is a done deal" hypothesis. This validates the idea that Henderson will depart, a necessary pre-condition.

Geelong's stated interest fills a hoop test. They must want Henderson for the deal to have been done.

If Henderson were to request a trade to Geelong this would validate a hoop test. He must want to go there for a deal to have been done.

Geelong having a pick in Carlton's preferred range is a straw in the wind. It supports the evidence, and is consistent with the idea, but does not prove it.

There are no Doubly Decisive pieces of evidence, which simultaneously prove the hypothesis and eliminate alternatives

So you're saying...maybe?

 

[HARKER]

To utilise some recent learning, this evidence is a "Smoking Gun" type evidence to prove the "Henderson to Geelong is a done deal" hypothesis. This validates the idea that Henderson will depart, a necessary pre-condition.

Geelong's stated interest fills a hoop test. They must want Henderson for the deal to have been done.
If Henderson were to request a trade to Geelong this would validate a hoop test. He must want to go there for a deal to have been done.
Geelong having a pick in Carlton's preferred range is a straw in the wind. It supports the evidence, and is consistent with the idea, but does not prove it.
There are no Doubly Decisive pieces of evidence, which simultaneously prove the hypothesis and eliminate alternatives

Ummmmmmmmmmmm, this is a Rumour thread Blue and Silver

There's no evidence anywhere as we're just trying to join dots and use the "How would I do it?" theory.

To execute a deal-in-principle makes for perfect sense and if it rides on the proviso that Henderson does not injure himself prior to years end, it would be prudent for us to "pull him"

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

I think its smart and calculated also by Geelong.

Getting this deal done so early in the piece, then puts doubt into Adelaide's mind, about Geelong now not being able to make a trade happen (given they dont have the currency) - and more inclined to release him as a free agent and get what they can as compensation (1st round pick).

No club wants to keep a player who doesnt want to be there, there is definitely a science to it.

If teams aren't going to keep a player against their will, Geelong will know Adelaide won't match their offer. So they sign him as a FA, keep our second rounder and pay us what Hendo is actually worth. That would be the scientific approach.

Again, I would love to get that pick 10 but I can't see it happening. Hendo is worth less than Carlisle and I would laugh if someone gave up pick 10 for him.

 

[blue healer]

Why is the left nut always less valued then the right one ??

Just curious.....

Doesn't that depend on whether you're right or left handed?