Recommitted Brody Mihocek [re-signed for 3 more years]

[dmc333]

Guy needs to cash in if someone is willing to pay.

 

[rgauci]

Anyone know his social situation?

Aish was from Adelaide, a single bloke and had already changed clubs.

Micocek was a mature age recruit, that’s all I know.Has he got kids? Might make an interstate move less desirable.

 

[dmc333]

Anyone know his social situation?

Aish was from Adelaide, a single bloke and had already changed clubs.

Micocek was a mature age recruit, that’s all I know.Has he got kids? Might make an interstate move less desirable.

His lady friend is from Tasmania like him. Don't think they have kids.

 

[00Stinger]

would love him at CHF for us, exactly the player we need

I rate him very highly and it seems a few clubs do. Just not Collingwood

 

[ExcitementMachine]

I love this guy as a player and would love to keep him. If he does leave - there's a million players moving around left right and center - and it'd end up involved in a three - four way trade - he's a very good talent and you can't screw-ball around to get your man that's just unprofessional. Essendon will have a huge amount of cash so they'd be insane not to have a look too.

 

[Pedro]

Apparently offered $1 mil over 3 years, which is around $333k per year, a significant upgrade on his previous contract, but can see why he may want to cash in seeing this is probably his last chance to set himself up financially.

Reported to have attracted a range of offers between $500k - $600k a year

That figure of $1M over 3 was only bought up as an example on our board to show that if he was offered $1.5M over 3 from someone else, how much of a significant difference it would be. The only thing I have read in the media about this is that his pay increase being described as "modest". He's probably making more than $300K already. He's not going to be offered a deal under the average player wage by us. If he's offered significantly more to play elsewhere and we can't afford to match it, then so bit. But it won't be an offer of $500K compared to our $300K.

 

[Apex36]

That figure of $1M over 3 was only bought up as an example on our board to show that if he was offered $1.5M over 3 from someone else, how much of a significant difference it would be. The only thing I have read in the media about this is that his pay increase being described as "modest". He's probably making more than $300K already. He's not going to be offered a deal under the average player wage by us. If he's offered significantly more to play elsewhere and we can't afford to match it, then so bit. But it won't be an offer of $500K compared to our $300K.

Lol I was going to say where did this mythical $330k figure come from? Wouldn’t be the first time numbnuts has pulled a random figure from a hypothetical and ran with it as fact.

 

[ExcitementMachine]

That figure of $1M over 3 was only bought up as an example on our board to show that if he was offered $1.5M over 3 from someone else, how much of a significant difference it would be. The only thing I have read in the media about this is that his pay increase being described as "modest". He's probably making more than $300K already. He's not going to be offered a deal under the average player wage by us. If he's offered significantly more to play elsewhere and we can't afford to match it, then so bit. But it won't be an offer of $500K compared to our $300K.

Thanks for clearing that up Pedro.
Seems everyone agrees - even the many draft and trade board trolls that Mihocek is a good player and rated. Loved by Collingwood fans. I reckon he will stay!
It's heartening to read on this board how the supporters of other teams rate him even if they were dreaming of acquiring him through a low ball offer or even via the PSD.

 

[Bob Neil]

That figure of $1M over 3 was only bought up as an example on our board to show that if he was offered $1.5M over 3 from someone else, how much of a significant difference it would be. The only thing I have read in the media about this is that his pay increase being described as "modest". He's probably making more than $300K already. He's not going to be offered a deal under the average player wage by us. If he's offered significantly more to play elsewhere and we can't afford to match it, then so bit. But it won't be an offer of $500K compared to our $300K.

Given that he's only ever been on the rookie list I have a lot of doubt in your bolded statement...and certainly not that amount of money guaranteed. I would have thought he's definitely worthy of a $500k/3yr contract from someone and given his late start to the game and diminished earning capacity that's going to be hard to walk away from.

 

[Pedro]

Given that he's only ever been on the rookie list I have a lot of doubt in your bolded statement...and certainly not that amount of money guaranteed. I would have thought he's definitely worthy of a $500k/3yr contract from someone and given his late start to the game and diminished earning capacity that's going to be hard to walk away from.

He signed a new 2 year deal at the end of his first year. He has only remained on the rookie list because we were able to keep $80K of his salary out of the TPP. If he gets a $100K increase, it will effect us by adding $180K to our TPP as he now needs to be aded to the main list. Believe what you like about what he's getting paid at the moment, but he aint getting paid rookie money.

I don't dispute that hes worth around $500K for 3 years. I don't doubt he's getting or will get offers of that, if not more from other clubs. If we can afford it, we'll pay it. If not, so be it. I can't remember a player that we wanted to keep, who has left purely for money, in a long, long, time. If we want to keep him, and no doubt we do, I hope we find a way.

 

[Apex36]

Given that he's only ever been on the rookie list I have a lot of doubt in your bolded statement...and certainly not that amount of money guaranteed. I would have thought he's definitely worthy of a $500k/3yr contract from someone and given his late start to the game and diminished earning capacity that's going to be hard to walk away from.

Him being on the rookie list has absolutely nothing to do with the terms offered in his current contract. Literally the only difference between him being on the rookie and senior list is that a portion of his salary sits outside the cap on the rookie list. Hence, he was happy to stay a rookie when we asked him to.

 

[SurreyBlue]

It what world is Mihocek worth $500-$600k a year? Just

 

[Duckenthusiast]

I don't like getting into 'let's really bash some club' posts, especially when they are still in the finals and could plausibly knock us off ( ), but Collingwood are a terribly run club. For all the resources and advantages they have, they seem to have some amazing deficiencies. They have had a shit high performance staff for years and seem to shrug their shoulders every year. If the report of the 333k offer is true, it would just be a baffling level of incompetence. They have done this a few times in the past 10 years. They are fixated on certain players and have to retain them (or lure them) at all costs and they foster a mercenary culture. They did it with Cloak, they did it with Grundy, they did it with Beams, and they're doing it with De Goey. If I was a Collingwood supporter, I would be fuming. It's not rocket science, you slap your best offer on the table to De Goey and say 'it's not going to get better, sign it within the week or we will consider you out the door and we will take money from your contract to offer to other players.' Mihocek is what wins you flags, not De Goey. Collingwood are a destination club, they can find plenty of players as good as De Goey for 800k+. What they can't do is find many players as Good as Mihocek that will play for the 450-500k he should be getting. He would be super grateful for being picked up as a mature age player and Collingwood can leverage that to keep him despite the likely 550-600k offers around.

Offering him 330k, if it is to be believed, is an insult. Either they have ballsed up their cap badly or don't rate him and arrogantly think they can keep him with crumbs. It is why these big offers on players are so dumb. They are widely reported and other players in the team will always resent knowing that they are being underpaid to feed someone's ego. If I were Mihocek, I'd be filthy knowing that the club rates me as 33% the player of Grundy or about 40% of the players as De Goey or Moore.

 

[Robroy22]

I don't like getting into 'let's really bash some club' posts, especially when they are still in the finals and could plausibly knock us off ( ), but Collingwood are a terribly run club. For all the resources and advantages they have, they seem to have some amazing deficiencies. They have had a sh*t high performance staff for years and seem to shrug their shoulders every year. If the report of the 333k offer is true, it would just be a baffling level of incompetence. They have done this a few times in the past 10 years. They are fixated on certain players and have to retain them (or lure them) at all costs and they foster a mercenary culture. They did it with Cloak, they did it with Grundy, they did it with Beams, and they're doing it with De Goey. If I was a Collingwood supporter, I would be fuming. It's not rocket science, you slap your best offer on the table to De Goey and say 'it's not going to get better, sign it within the week or we will consider you out the door and we will take money from your contract to offer to other players.' Mihocek is what wins you flags, not De Goey. Collingwood are a destination club, they can find plenty of players as good as De Goey for 800k+. What they can't do is find many players as Good as Mihocek that will play for the 450-500k he should be getting. He would be super grateful for being picked up as a mature age player and Collingwood can leverage that to keep him despite the likely 550-600k offers around.

Offering him 330k, if it is to be believed, is an insult. Either they have ballsed up their cap badly or don't rate him and arrogantly think they can keep him with crumbs. It is why these big offers on players are so dumb. They are widely reported and other players in the team will always resent knowing that they are being underpaid to feed someone's ego. If I were Mihocek, I'd be filthy knowing that the club rates me as 33% the player of Grundy or about 40% of the players as De Goey or Moore.

YAWN.....good luck next week! Make sure you finish those Tiggies off for the rest of us won't you!
Checkers will be staying.

 

[Apex36]

I don't like getting into 'let's really bash some club' posts, especially when they are still in the finals and could plausibly knock us off ( ), but Collingwood are a terribly run club. For all the resources and advantages they have, they seem to have some amazing deficiencies. They have had a sh*t high performance staff for years and seem to shrug their shoulders every year. If the report of the 333k offer is true, it would just be a baffling level of incompetence. They have done this a few times in the past 10 years. They are fixated on certain players and have to retain them (or lure them) at all costs and they foster a mercenary culture. They did it with Cloak, they did it with Grundy, they did it with Beams, and they're doing it with De Goey. If I was a Collingwood supporter, I would be fuming. It's not rocket science, you slap your best offer on the table to De Goey and say 'it's not going to get better, sign it within the week or we will consider you out the door and we will take money from your contract to offer to other players.' Mihocek is what wins you flags, not De Goey. Collingwood are a destination club, they can find plenty of players as good as De Goey for 800k+. What they can't do is find many players as Good as Mihocek that will play for the 450-500k he should be getting. He would be super grateful for being picked up as a mature age player and Collingwood can leverage that to keep him despite the likely 550-600k offers around.

Offering him 330k, if it is to be believed, is an insult. Either they have ballsed up their cap badly or don't rate him and arrogantly think they can keep him with crumbs. It is why these big offers on players are so dumb. They are widely reported and other players in the team will always resent knowing that they are being underpaid to feed someone's ego. If I were Mihocek, I'd be filthy knowing that the club rates me as 33% the player of Grundy or about 40% of the players as De Goey or Moore.

It’s already been explained that the $333k figure was taken from a hypothetical on our board and ran with as fact. I challenge anyone to find a genuine report with that number in it, because afaik it doesn’t exist. In fact I don’t think any hard numbers have been reported, just that Mihocek and the club are a ways apart at the moment.

 

[Duckenthusiast]

YAWN.....good luck next week! Make sure you finish those Tiggies off for the rest of us won't you!
Checkers will be staying.

Thanks for your support.

 

[Duckenthusiast]

It’s already been explained that the $333k figure was taken from a hypothetical on our board and ran with as fact. I challenge anyone to find a genuine report with that number in it, because afaik it doesn’t exist. In fact I don’t think any hard numbers have been reported, just that Mihocek and the club are a ways apart at the moment.

Well if its wrong its wrong (hence why there were a few qualifiers). The point still stands, your list manager seems to indulge players alot. I'd be interested to know who is earning 800k+ at Brisbane, Port, Geelong, and Richmond. Ask him if he wants success or money. Teams that pay that kind of money for players tend not to win flags. If he wants 1mil+ x 7, go to North and get smashed for the rest of his career.

 

[master bate]

It what world is Mihocek worth $500-$600k a year? Just

Have you seen what Mitch McGovern gets paid?

Given the average wage is 370k and Mihocek is a consistent key forward who does his job week in week out even without starring I'd imagine he's easily worth 500k to a lot of clubs and a number of them would pay over that to get him in.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

It what world is Mihocek worth $500-$600k a year? Just

In the same world that Zac Williams and Brad Hill are worth $900K.

 

[Duckenthusiast]

Have you seen what Mitch McGovern gets paid?

Given the average wage is 370k and Mihocek is a consistent key forward who does his job week in week out even without starring I'd imagine he's easily worth 500k to a lot of clubs and a number of them would pay over that to get him in.

Honestly, he could play as top banana. Those players start at 500k. I'd have him at Port any day.

 

[Pedro]

Well if its wrong its wrong (hence why there were a few qualifiers). The point still stands, your list manager seems to indulge players alot. I'd be interested to know who is earning 800k+ at Brisbane, Port, Geelong, and Richmond. Ask him if he wants success or money. Teams that pay that kind of money for players tend not to win flags. If he wants 1mil+ x 7, go to North and get smashed for the rest of his career.

I don't think there's any doubt that we've made some blues. I think there's some merit on your comments about our list management. Some of that is on the previous manager and I suspect we are playing catch up trying to right some previous wrongs. Time will tell with the new Guy.

 

[THE_GUN]

Cox was worth the 550k just for the 2018 prelim. Also, that 550k figure is being touted as fact when no one outside the club/afl salary cap dept can be sure it's right. He had to trigger the extra year of a contract by playing enough games this year... seems unlikely that sort of figure would be tied to a trigger like that

Mihocek has done that on atleast 10 games not just 1 game

Also when was the last time you ever heard a club mention what their players get paid so nobody from club land will mention that but the general consensus for most media outlets is that is what he is on with the trigger and these things usually get out with players being offered up for trade as Cox was last year

 

[SurreyBlue]

In the same world that Zac Williams and Brad Hill are worth $900K.

Not sure about Brad but Zac certainly not. Please get your facts right before posting.
Btw - Zac Williams is worth 750k.

 

[Andy_Mac]

Not sure about Brad but Zac certainly not. Please get your facts right before posting.
Btw - Zac Williams is worth 750k.

So why did Carlton pay him $900k?

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Not sure about Brad but Zac certainly not. Please get your facts right before posting.
Btw - Zac Williams is worth 750k.

Nope.