browne

[rotto]

with all the delistings including our long of retirements do you think that browne should be delist?

 

[E Shed]

I'm still a fan but I think I'm in the minority around here.

 

[Freo_4eva]

I have always been a strong supporter of Browne.. but i have to say he has probably done his dash.. just can never take that next step to consistently perform at the next level. Not that his body has really allowed him many consecutive games mind you.

 

[rgauci]

We have better small midfielders...

He doesn't provide anything different to the 22.

For instance Ibbo came in with pace and height and a willingness to carry the ball over distance and deliver long.

Browne just reminds me of the old midget brigade. Hard to win games with that sort of 22.

 

[DockerNJL]

I'm still a fan but I think I'm in the minority around here.

im with you E shed,

although i get shot down evertime i mention.

I can see him getting 1 last year.

 

[Kram]

Gooone.

Had his chances, time to move on. I like him but he just will never make it at AFL level sadly.

 

[Black Ball]

Should've been gassed 2 years ago.

 

[Belnakor]

WAFL player.

 

[Moo]

I would certainly keep him ....he is a good player just hacked down with injury. Next year we may face times when we want a guy with some AFL experience to play a few games.

Not great but serviceable at AFL level.

With Dunn and Webster - you actually could have made the debate quite easily to delist him.

However now with such a cleanout ...Browne would be replced by a kid at pick 80 something and I think he is far better value than that.

We need to sit down with the medicos and see if they believe his body is capable of AFL football. If the answer is no - then and only then we move on. If he is given a better than 50% chance of coming up - we make it a 1 year deal and do a Dunn and see if he can earn his place on the list.

Browne is hard at the ball and a pretty courageous footy player ...I certainly think in a year when we are filling the list with people who will certainly not play at all - we can carry a guy who may.

 

[Kram]

Sure Browne has a go and shows some skill at WAFL level, but when promoted he looks nervous and indecisive. Just not up to it physically or mentally.

 

[dont bowl there]

With the amount of departures this year I would give him another year, no harm in delisting him after next season if he continues to break down.

 

[hitemup007]

I would certainly keep him ....he is a good player just hacked down with injury. Next year we may face times when we want a guy with some AFL experience to play a few games.

Not great but serviceable at AFL level.

With Dunn and Webster - you actually could have made the debate quite easily to delist him.

However now with such a cleanout ...Browne would be replced by a kid at pick 80 something and I think he is far better value than that.

We need to sit down with the medicos and see if they believe his body is capable of AFL football. If the answer is no - then and only then we move on. If he is given a better than 50% chance of coming up - we make it a 1 year deal and do a Dunn and see if he can earn his place on the list.

Browne is hard at the ball and a pretty courageous footy player ...I certainly think in a year when we are filling the list with people who will certainly not play at all - we can carry a guy who may.

I second that.

 

[dominguez]

He's already had 7 years, for a total of 27 matches and his highest season total of 14 was in 2004. He averages 10 possessions a game. I'd get rid of him, but I certainly won't be holding my breath for him to go.

That's the main point. If he had injury concerns but looked good at WAFL level after 3 or 4 seasons he'd possibly be worth another year. But he's done nothing to warrant an 8th AFL season.

 

[rgauci]

I like Browne. Hope he wins lotto. Because he deserves something lucky to happen to him.

BUT

I would prefer he was delisted and Smith or Connelly were given a chance at senior level.

 

[The Purple Jesus]

I have liked his attitude and determination but after at least 6 or 7 years on the list he really has had enough chances. Sure he is a goer with plenty of guts but we have to get rid of some guys that have been in the system for so long and have a decent clean out.
Other guys in this category include Peake, Gilmore, Campbell and Murphy. No disrespect to any of them as I love anyone wearing Purple but we must not settle for mediocrity anymore. One or 2 of these guys really should go. I know we need a bit of depth with so many retirements but if any of these guys ever truly made it in the big time I would be surprised (pleasantly surprised)

 

[Tundrawolf]

That's the main point. If he had injury concerns but looked good at WAFL level after 3 or 4 seasons he'd possibly be worth another year. But he's done nothing to warrant an 8th AFL season.

Alas, I think it would be an absolute travesty if he got an 8th season on those figures. Very unlucky but it's time we severed ties with Browne.

 

[ImperialPurple]

Jesus people - get rid of him already.

A totally unspectacular career of 27 games over 7 injury-filled seasons - with the awesomest of awesomeness in career stats of:

Games: 27
Av. Kicks / game: 6.7
Av. H/balls / game: 3.6
Av. disposals / game: 10.3
Av. Marks / games: 2.7
Av. goals / games: 0.2
Av. behinds / games: 0.6
Av. tackles / games: 2.1


I'm sorry, but those are not the stats of someone who is anything other than an average plodder at AFL level.

Can't fault the guy's courage or tenacity to come back from some terrible injuries - but he's a very, very average player.

I would rather pick up a kid at 72 and hope that we uncover a gem, cos Browney might he the best bloke in the world, but he's a shit AFL player.

 

[PapaJ]

I would certainly keep him ....he is a good player just hacked down with injury. Next year we may face times when we want a guy with some AFL experience to play a few games.

Not great but serviceable at AFL level.

With Dunn and Webster - you actually could have made the debate quite easily to delist him.

However now with such a cleanout ...Browne would be replced by a kid at pick 80 something and I think he is far better value than that.

We need to sit down with the medicos and see if they believe his body is capable of AFL football. If the answer is no - then and only then we move on. If he is given a better than 50% chance of coming up - we make it a 1 year deal and do a Dunn and see if he can earn his place on the list.

Browne is hard at the ball and a pretty courageous footy player ...I certainly think in a year when we are filling the list with people who will certainly not play at all - we can carry a guy who may.

I'm with Moo. Any other season and it would be no dice, but with so much room in the list, we may as well keep him around the place.

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I would rather pick up a kid at 72 and hope that we uncover a gem, cos Browney might he the best bloke in the world, but he's a shit AFL player.

If it was all based on stats alone then he would have gone ages ago. The fact is that those in the know that watch him week in and week out on the track training etc. (when he's not in a wheelchair) have seen what he's got and have stuck with him thus far. Further, we can take a punt on pick 72 and probably even lower and still keep Browne.

Having said that, I'd be happy if he's still on the list come 2009, but if he's going to keep a genuine potential player out, then we give him the gold watch. (eg. I'd probably take Matt Moody over him - though both seem as likely as each other to make it to the big time).

 

[Moo]

I would rather pick up a kid at 72 and hope that we uncover a gem, cos Browney might he the best bloke in the world, but he's a shit AFL player.

3 - 21 - 24 - 37 - 53 - 56 - 72 - 85 - 101

Our picks to replace Webster, Carrs (1 good / 1 evil), Bell, Black, Warnock, MJ II and Farmer.

It is not Browne for 72 ...it is Browne for pick 101, or 85 if we use a PSD pick.

McMaunus and Dunn (plus at least 1 more I would say) means 3 more to the rookie list (as well as the expanded rookie list itself which means we will bringing in likley 5 young developing footy players).

I would suggest if you are going to find a gem at 85 or 101 - you should probably just find thast gem via the rookie list inless they are going to be capable of playing senior football.

There comes a point where you have to say we can not cut the list so hard that we are playing kids who would barely be up to WAFL standard.

Browne should certainly be retained, unless the club is certain that they are going to secure an Ashley McGrath and they think anyone taken at 85 or 101 (which lets face it might as well be 85 & 86) is going to be able to contribute to the senior list.

If they are not - just go to the draft for 8 picks and fill out that rookie list.

I think a Mourish or Smith would be a little nervous as I would be more for a clean out here and grabbing a whole range of project players and seeing if we can find one or two amongst them in the next 2 or 3 seasons.

As I said if the medicos say he should be OK for 2009 - I would let him go around once more. If he is not - then cut him lose and go to the PSD for an extra spot filler.

 

[ImperialPurple]

3 - 21 - 24 - 37 - 53 - 56 - 72 - 85 - 101

Our picks to replace Webster, Carrs (1 good / 1 evil), Bell, Black, Warnock, MJ II and Farmer.

OK, you're right (as usual... ) - but it's too horrid to contemplate so I am in denial.

I still think that if you've been on the list for 7 years, and you're averaging 10 possessions per game then the neon sign is flashing "Below Average Player" very brightly and most maniacally.

Maybe someone else's retreads late in the draft, or in the PSD might be worth the punt. We already know what we get with Browney and it's not a lot. Sadly.

 

[Ripper]

OK, you're right (as usual... ) - but it's too horrid to contemplate so I am in denial.

I still think that if you've been on the list for 7 years, and you're averaging 10 possessions per game then the neon sign is flashing "Below Average Player" very brightly and most maniacally.

Maybe someone else's retreads late in the draft, or in the PSD might be worth the punt. We already know what we get with Browney and it's not a lot. Sadly.

Poor mans Jaxon Crabb , i have thought for a long time.

Give Smithy a go.

And Moo our picks should go something like 3.21.24.37.53.56. 61.64.66.67.68.69.

 

[Moo]

I agree. There's gotta be someone out there who is AFL ready and offers more than Browne. Armstrong?

Crap swapping ....I think I'll hold.

 

[Moo]

Poor mans Jaxon Crabb , i have thought for a long time.

Give Smithy a go.

And Moo our picks should go something like 3.21.24.37.53.56. 61.64.66.67.68.69.

Point taken but how many 79kg kids with bad haricuts can anyone squad hold?

 

[MadMac]

I agree. There's gotta be someone out there who is AFL ready and offers more than Browne. Armstrong?

Well, I've said it straight after he was delisted that he might be a good value for depth if taken in PSD or a very late pick in ND. He's not a bad player.

 

[Vintage]

I've thought we should get rid of him for a couple of years now - but given the list turnover this year, are we in danger of not being able to trade/delist the required number at the end of next season, and therefore should keep him so we can delist then???