Hawks had Rioli Stratton Frawley O'Brien Omeara Birchall all out on top of there struggling list.
Only one of those plays in the mid-field -and his knees are shot.
Hawks mid-field is where they were beaten.
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Hawks had Rioli Stratton Frawley O'Brien Omeara Birchall all out on top of there struggling list.
I guess it hinges on how highly you rate Hawthorn as well. Hawks should never have got that far in front, that they capitulated doesnt mean much to me. There was too much emotion in the game for such a momentum swing to say Buckley did an outstanding job. Personally, i reckon that come back says more about Pendlebury's captaining than it does about Buckleys coaching.

You're kidding aren't you..?Only one of those plays in the mid-field -and his knees are shot.
Hawks mid-field is where they were beaten.
You're kidding aren't you..?
You think having even just 4 of our starting 18 back in wouldn't have made a difference? how simple are you? Losing Puopolo and of course already having Cyril out meant our forward pressure was lacking in the second half.. hence you were waltzing the ball out of defensive 50.. Frawley, Stratton, Birchall.. half our starting back line missing as well as Brand who was the Frawley replacement.. not to forget O'Brien who has been one of our best this year up forward..
It's a whole ground effect... do you even understand football?
Keep living in delusion, Buckley will be sacked soon enough your side is horrid and merely treading water.
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Bucks has been there 5 odd years, given a premier ship winning side & only to have taken the side down the ladderYep the old...
Pies win - players were great
Pies lose - Lol Bucks, sack him, worse coach ever.
And on it goes.
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Both sides had players out. dunno if this has been mentioned but we were missing Reid and our 2 best running defenders (Varcoe / Sinclair). we went into the game with 1 forward over 195m and he spent time in the ruck.
I'd say there wasn't much different in the outs in the end.
.. Are you joking? genuinely am unsure.. Do you honestly think the outs were comparable. You only went in with one key forward because all your others are shitBoth sides had players out. dunno if this has been mentioned but we were missing Reid and our 2 best running defenders (Varcoe / Sinclair). we went into the game with 1 forward over 195m and he spent time in the ruck.
I'd say there wasn't much different in the outs in the end.
.. Are you joking? genuinely am unsure.. Do you honestly think the outs were comparable. You only went in with one key forward because all your others are shit
Birchall
Stratton
Frawley
Brand
O'Meara
Rioli
Ceglar
O'Brien
or Reid, Varcoe and supposedly Sinclair.. who is an average player if you include him may as well include O'Rourke, Lovell and Miles for us..
Do you honestly believe there wasn't much difference in the outs?
Brand counted as he was the replacement fro Frawley who has played most games this year, who was then pulled out sick.your recruit Vickery came in. as did Sicily and premiership player Dureya.
on the outs...Brand? 23yo 15 games and ave 17p's a game in 2017. yeh don't know how you covered him.
JOM of 2014 would be a good excuse but sadly you've got JOM of 2017 and he's a shadow on the 2014 player.
Ceglar? Interesting. Hasnt played a game in 2017 and at best is an honest toiler. McEvoy was ok against Grundy and had 37 hit outs.
you dropped Obrien so you cant claim him as an out.
Frawley....how has he been going this year?
Stratton, Birchall and Rioli the only losses that made a difference.
the lessoning output of Hodge and Burgoyne and the sacking Mitchell and Lewis has exposed the foot soldiers underneath.
By my count you had more than 13 premiership players out there.
Brand counted as he was the replacement fro Frawley who has played most games this year, who was then pulled out sick.
Ceglar is best 22 and has been out since he did his ACL last year, so no shit he hasn't played this year.. we play him and McEvoy together
We didn't drop O'Brien, he was injured with a hip injury? at least get your facts right before you comment.. he is having a breakout year and was a huge loss
Vickery, Duryea and Sicily have been playing at box hill... hence not best 22.
The fact you try to downplay Frawley the man who kept Kennedy goaless in a granny and is having a decent year and is just about our most important player structure wise show's you don't know much about footy..
O'Meara was having a fine promising start to the year before his injury and again gives Mitchell much needed help.. like when we nearly beat Adelaide this year and he dominated in the middle with 37 touches..
Sorry but you quite obviously don't have a great grasp of how football works and claiming O'Brien was dropped when he is having a breakout year and was out injured is a huge LOL
Vickery, Duryea and Sicily have been playing at box hill... hence not best 22.
The fact you try to downplay Frawley the man who kept Kennedy goaless in a granny and is having a decent year and is just about our most important player structure wise show's you don't know much about footy..
O'Meara was having a fine promising start to the year before his injury and again gives Mitchell much needed help.. like when we nearly beat Adelaide this year and he dominated in the middle with 37 touches..
You haven't been on BF for long, have you?Bucks has been there 5 odd years, given a premier ship winning side & only to have taken the side down the ladder
Sounds like brad scott thread lolYep the old...
Pies win - players were great
Pies lose - Lol Bucks, sack him, worse coach ever.
And on it goes.
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I am not wrong. O'Brien was a late out with a hip injury, that report is wrong and you obviously no nothing about Hawthorn if you think O'Brien was dropped... from the Hawthorn website,I'll happily admit when I am wrong.
Re O'Brien...from the AFL website match centre............
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/9/coll-v-haw
Hawthorn
B
HB
- Blake Hardwick,
- Kurt Heatherley,
- Daniel Howe
C
- Ryan Burton,
- Josh Gibson,
- Luke Hodge
HF
- Isaac Smith,
- Shaun Burgoyne,
- Will Langford
F
- Luke Breust,
- Jack Gunston,
- James Sicily
Fol
- Ty Vickery,
- Jarryd Roughead,
- Paul Puopolo
I/C
- Ben McEvoy,
- Liam Shiels,
- Tom Mitchell
- Billy Hartung,
- Taylor Duryea,
- Brendan Whitecross,
- Ricky Henderson
NO CHANGE
In
Out
- Kurt Heatherley,
- James Sicily,
- Ty Vickery,
- Taylor Duryea,
- Brendan Whitecross
- Jack Fitzpatrick (Concussion),
- Tim O'Brien (Omitted),
- Ben Stratton (Knee),
- Cyril Rioli (Knee),
- James Frawley (Toe)
can you admit when you are wrong?
how many years ago did Frawley beat Kennedy? Out of interest how much did you win by?
FFS..Nathan Brown beat Reiwoldt in 2 GF's and I don't rate him.
I'll give you a few minutes to remove the foot from your mouth.
I feel sorry for the guy but it's got to happen. Before the year is out.
The silver lining is that he might get back into commentary. He was once the best special comments/ expert.
Not an excuse at all, merely responding to a comment saying Hawks and Pies had an equal amount of outs..Hawthorn supporters using pre game injuries as an excuse for being up by 43 points then losing.
Yep, we're on BF.
*cue the 4 flags in 9 years responses...
Well for one he isn't on 600k, and two as O'Brien has taken his spot this year that's where he has been playing and has only come in due to injury which means not best 22, can I make it any clearer for you?geez I thought Mayne was a shocking recruit. you guys paid Vickery 600k at box hill?
you are delusional if you think JOM has had a good start at Hawthorn.
Just as much as the other 17 AFL clubs have forgotten about the Blues. You've been irrelevant longer than some AFL players have been alive.love wins like Saturday night , increases the chances of Buckley staying
please keep him ,
from 17 other AFL clubs
Hawks had Rioli Stratton Frawley O'Brien Omeara Birchall all out on top of there struggling list.
Are you joking? Puopolo was also gone for most of the second half and he was actually impacting the game unlike Aish.. we had no forward pressure after he had to stay offSo if the above is accurate they had 6 best 22 players missing. Pies were missing Reid, Varcoe, Sinclair and Aish was gone for the second half. They were certainly missing a few, but only 2 more best 22 players than us (is OBrien best 22?), and we were a rotation down on the bench. The Hawks were certainly understrength, but this characterization that it was Box Hill vs the Pies best team seems wildly inaccurate. The Hawks just aren't very good anymore. Not that we are either, but thought the above was worth pointing out.
Just as much as the other 17 AFL clubs have forgotten about the Blues. You've been irrelevant longer than some AFL players have been alive.
I can't believe them in this thread the delusion is just bafflingyet we have still beaten the Magpies under Buckley the last 2 years , Eddie almost resigned over one of them
but please keep him !!
