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Butcher to replace Neade - just as quick, can take a mark, creates chaos and gets the occasional walk in goal. What's there to lose.
Neade, Amon and Ah Chee all should be sent back to the Maggies

Inb4 butch hasn't been very good at sanfl level, 11 goals in 4 games isn't enough. Neade gives us so much pressure. Oh and 2 goals in 4 games. But the pressure. Half our 22 had twice as many pressure acts then Neade. But he brings pressure.... Apparently. :rolleyes:
 

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Inb4 butch hasn't been very good at sanfl level, 11 goals in 4 games isn't enough. Neade gives us so much pressure. Oh and 2 goals in 4 games. But the pressure. Half our 22 had twice as many pressure acts then Neade. But he brings pressure.... Apparently. :rolleyes:
Are you sure your not Kern?;)
 

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If Butch can kick another 3+ goals then surely he's in the week after?
I think its more then just the number of goals.

I would imaging they want him to more then get easy goals out the back of packs and kicking them in the goal square. They would want to see him presenting on leads well and taking big contested pack marks really dominating inside 50 then converting set shots.
 

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I think its more then just the number of goals.

I would imaging they want him to more then get easy goals out the back of packs and kicking them in the goal square. They would want to see him presenting on leads well and taking big contested pack marks really dominating inside 50 then converting set shots.
All 4 of his goals in the SANFL showdown was great, 1 of the 3 vs North Adelaide I admit was a joe the goose goal.
 

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A question for all you snafl followers.
What current snafl FF is crashing packs, taking big pack marks and converting goals?
I haven't seen a lot of games other than ours (Power) this year so I wonder, what current AFL KPF is currently crashing packs etc etc. Are we expecting more and more of Butch until we finally play him when he starts performing like all these other KPF's who are.. 'dominating'?
I'd happily swap Neade out for Butch this week. That seagull impersonation while eyeballing the ump pleading for deliberate OOB while the ball was still in play and failing to hunt resulting in a Giants goal is still pissin' me off four days after the event.
Frankly I'd be playing JB as much as possible. Cannot fathom why he wasn't delisted if he's just gonna run around in the twos. I want to see him given every possible opportunity this season. If he goes 8 games straight at AFL level we'll have something to judge him by. If he's poor, he's out the door. If he's not gonna play he should've been gone last September.
 

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A question for all you snafl followers.
What current snafl FF is crashing packs, taking big pack marks and converting goals?
I haven't seen a lot of games other than ours (Power) this year so I wonder, what current AFL KPF is currently crashing packs etc etc. Are we expecting more and more of Butch until we finally play him when he starts performing like all these other KPF's who are.. 'dominating'?
I'd happily swap Neade out for Butch this week. That seagull impersonation while eyeballing the ump pleading for deliberate OOB while the ball was still in play and failing to hunt resulting in a Giants goal is still pissin' me off four days after the event.
Frankly I'd be playing JB as much as possible. Cannot fathom why he wasn't delisted if he's just gonna run around in the twos. I want to see him given every possible opportunity this season. If he goes 8 games straight at AFL level we'll have something to judge him by. If he's poor, he's out the door. If he's not gonna play he should've been gone last September.
I dont disagree, I'm just saying i think they want him to look like an AFL player playing at a much lower level, really start to stand out and win us games. Not just be another playing playing in the SANFL.
 

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All 4 of his goals in the SANFL showdown was great, 1 of the 3 vs North Adelaide I admit was a joe the goose goal.
Yeah, cause all those Joe the goose goals we've conceded this year were worth less then others against us. I just want Butch to be held to the same standard as everyone else. Not this one that some people won't count his goals unless they resulted from crashing a pack single handedly, winning the contested mark, then kicking it perfectly from 50 out at 45 degrees, all whilst reciting the Gettysburg address and signing autographs for fans.
 

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I dont disagree, I'm just saying i think they want him to look like an AFL player playing at a much lower level, really start to stand out and win us games. Not just be another playing playing in the SANFL.
And that's my point. How many other 28 game KPF's (not even considering the injury setbacks and surgery JB has had) are running around out there looking like AFL quality KPF's?
You have to play him in the AFL if you want him to be AFL standard. I see very little of JB in the PB's but from all I read, surely he is looking like a SANFL quality KPF?
That being the case it seems to me that he's finished his SANFL apprenticeship and ready to take the next step to continue to improve and develop his game in the seniors, the job we recruited him for.
If not then I query why we kept him on the list.
Can't see the logic here ATM.
 

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And that's my point. How many other 28 game KPF's (not even considering the injury setbacks and surgery JB has had) are running around out there looking like AFL quality KPF's?
You have to play him in the AFL if you want him to be AFL standard. I see very little of JB in the PB's but from all I read, surely he is looking like a SANFL quality KPF?
That being the case it seems to me that he's finished his SANFL apprenticeship and ready to take the next step to continue to improve and develop his game in the seniors, the job we recruited him for.
If not then I query why we kept him on the list.
Can't see the logic here ATM.
I'd certainly very seriously consider bringing him in(butch vs Howard for a call up)just saying I think he needs to do more at SANFL level.

I don't see enough of him either so it's hard to judge of what you read and looking at the little pit of footage in the PAFC but if he just looks like a SANFL player that isn't going to get him into the AFL side, he needs to look like an AFL player, and their is a big difference between the two.

And to the 28 game remark, yea he has had injures that have held him along way back, but a big reason he hasn't played more is because he hasn't been good enough, and we will find out what the coaches think tonight...

You'd have to think if he'll get a call up it would be tonight.
 
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