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Zakk Wylde said:
Its Round 13 m8
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And in round 1 he wasn't even selected, he was a late replacement. Season is just about shot, and forwardline has been average at best since the showdown. We need to discover if our best positioned reserves KPF has a future with us where it counts, at AFL level, in a contract year for him.

Our form forward leading in to round 1 wasn't even selected ahead of a host of players missing fitness. If him getting selected now riles you up, but that didn't, well you must be part of the selection committee.
 
Half serious question, if Butcher was to kick 10, maybe 12, maybe more tomorrow would he be a reasonable chance to get a game in the next couple of weeks or has his papers been marked forever?
 
Honeyboy Wilson said:
When did I say that? You responded saying it's not round 1 anymore, so I pointed out he was one of our best in his most recent game.
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OK.. Fair enough.

He was predominantly down back and it's the first sign of a pulse he's shown for a long time... Whilst the original comparison, Harvey, has been pretty consistent all the way through.
 

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RussellEbertHandball said:
Half serious question, if Butcher was to kick 10, maybe 12, maybe more tomorrow would he be a reasonable chance to get a game in the next couple of weeks or has his papers been marked forever?
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I've put a line though him... But if that were to happen, I might have to make sure I had some liquid paper.... Just in case.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
Half serious question, if Butcher was to kick 10, maybe 12, maybe more tomorrow would he be a reasonable chance to get a game in the next couple of weeks or has his papers been marked forever?
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He'll be in, kick 1.2 vs Swans in a game where we kick maybe 11 total, then dropped for good.

Or

He won't be brought in due to the short break, will be promised a call up with a half decent game the next week, but won't be called up cause a midfield plodder will rack up 30 nondescript touches.
 
edgie said:
And in round 1 he wasn't even selected, he was a late replacement. Season is just about shot, and forwardline has been average at best since the showdown. We need to discover if our best positioned reserves KPF has a future with us where it counts, at AFL level, in a contract year for him.

Our form forward leading in to round 1 wasn't even selected ahead of a host of players missing fitness. If him getting selected now riles you up, but that didn't, well you must be part of the selection committee.
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In all seriousness... Was he that great this preseason ?? Seriously ??

And has his status all of a sudden grown because our season is sinking ??
 
Zakk Wylde said:
I've put a line though him... But if that were to happen, I might have to make sure I had some liquid paper.... Just in case.
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Can I ask what you achieve by putting a line through him before the end of the season?

Do you think we won't have Harvey next year or something? Harvey has time on his side, Butch does not. So why not at least give him a chance until the end of the season?
 
Zakk Wylde said:
In all seriousness... Was he that great this preseason ?? Seriously ??

And has his status all of a sudden grown because our season is sinking ??
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Was he statistically better than Schulz, Hoff, and Ryder? If statistics aren't your thing, was he more effective? Have more influence on games?

Yes.
 
Honeyboy Wilson said:
Can I ask what you achieve by putting a line through him before the end of the season?

Do you think we won't have Harvey next year or something? Harvey has time on his side, Butch does not. So why not at least give him a chance until the end of the season?
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Cause he's not Lazerus.

And in my opinion, has been overtaken.
 
edgie said:
......He won't be brought in due to the short break, will be promised a call up with a half decent game the next week, but won't be called up cause a midfield plodder will rack up 30 nondescript touches.
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The short break is why I said next couple of weeks.
 
edgie said:
Was he statistically better than Schulz, Hoff, and Ryder? If statistics aren't your thing, was he more effective? Have more influence on games?

Yes.
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Statistically better than the bloke who dropped 66 the season before.... A guy who didn't play all pre season but was brought in as "the missing piece" and blitzed his only competitive hit out, and another bloke who we would now be able to use in any position on the ground.

If you think he was getting in ahead of any of those blokes, you weren't thinking clearly.
 

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Zakk Wylde said:
Statistically better than the bloke who dropped 66 the season before.... A guy who didn't play all pre season but was brought in as "the missing piece" and blitzed his only competitive hit out, and another bloke who we would now be able to use in any position on the ground.

If you think he was getting in ahead of any of those blokes, you weren't thinking clearly.
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Ryder kicked 4 in the intra match IIRC? IIRC, So did Butcher.

Schulz had a good preseason last year til his ankle vs Bombers. This year was very quiet. Hoff was nearly invisible, but to answer properly, I'm talking forwards, not any position on the ground.

Next.
 
edgie said:
Ryder kicked 4 in the intra match IIRC? IIRC, So did Butcher.

Schulz had a good preseason last year til his ankle vs Bombers. This year was very quiet. Hoff was nearly invisible, but to answer properly, I'm talking forwards, not any position on the ground.

Next.
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Haha... OK. You didn't say who he should've been in front of ??
 
edgie said:
Ryder kicked 4 in the intra match IIRC? IIRC, So did Butcher.

Schulz had a good preseason last year til his ankle vs Bombers. This year was very quiet. Hoff was nearly invisible, but to answer properly, I'm talking forwards, not any position on the ground.

Next.
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If they play Butcher against Sydney, a must win game, then I think I could have a heart attack.. although I still have a glimmer of hope for the fairytale.
 
Zakk Wylde said:
Haha... OK. You didn't say who he should've been in front of ??
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And you didn't mention who outperformed him as a forward across the whole preseason.

It is ok though, Ryder kicked 4 in a match that was being closely monitored by authorities so it didn't appear to be a genuine hitout/scratch match.
 
AdsGoNads said:
If they play Butcher against Sydney, a must win game, then I think I could have a heart attack.. although I still have a glimmer of hope for the fairytale.
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Every game is a must win. North was a must win, but we selected debutant Ah Chee. Brisbane was a must win and we selected debutant Amon.
 

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edgie said:
And you didn't mention who outperformed him as a forward across the whole preseason.

It is ok though, Ryder kicked 4 in a match that was being closely monitored by authorities so it didn't appear to be a genuine hitout/scratch match.
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Dude..... He was NEVER going to play ahead of Schulz, Ryder and Westhoff. He just wasn't.
 
edgie said:
He'll be in, kick 1.2 vs Swans in a game where we kick maybe 11 total, then dropped for good.

Or

He won't be brought in due to the short break, will be promised a call up with a half decent game the next week, but won't be called up cause a midfield plodder will rack up 30 nondescript touches.
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Or he'd get the call up, kick 0.1 and have three touches, none after half time. And still the board would insist he's just a good run away from taking the competition by storm.
 
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