Cam Rayner

[danster168]

Haha. You keep dipping in to the past. Look forward from where you are now. No secret ingredient. Players at the Lions buying in to the club for 6 years. Clarry and Trac want out. Easy question to answer. You are losing it brother.

The dees want Clarry out. Petracca is just a narcissist making everything about himself. Trac is a culture issue in himself.
Ultimately, you don't win the flag without Ashcroft and Fletcher. And the same will be said for future success with Ashcroft's brother. You can deflect and talk about Melbourne but we won our flag legimtiately. We won by crazy margins in every final with only 1 father-son. And we never got given a father-son when we were a top team. We also, never got any freebies. Any top picks were given after suffering near the bottom of the ladder, which is definitely not free.

 

[Junction Lion]

Sorry mate. Have to do this. You just keep getting owned.

Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling

From glen to glen, and down the mountain side

The summer's gone, and all the flowers are dying

'Tis you, 'tis you must go and I must bide.

 

[Junction Lion]

The dees want Clarry out. Petracca is just a narcissist making everything about himself. Trac is a culture issue in himself.
Ultimately, you don't win the flag without Ashcroft and Fletcher. And the same will be said for future success with Ashcroft's brother. You can deflect and talk about Melbourne but we won our flag legimtiately. We won by crazy margins in every final with only 1 father-son. And we never got given a father-son when we were a top team. We also, never got any freebies. Any top picks were given after suffering near the bottom of the ladder, which is definitely not free.

So you are saying Lions flag wasn’t legitimate? Not Pies with Daicos X 2 not Geelong with Hawkins? Oh dear. I thought you were better than this.

 

[danster168]

So you are saying Lions flag wasn’t legitimate? Not Pies with Daicos X 2 not Geelong with Hawkins? Oh dear. I thought you were better than this.

You make a good point. And no, those others are not legitimate. At the very least, it's clearly not an even competition. So clearly flawed, so I don't compare teams. The ladder is usually a direct reflection of father/son, NGA handouts etc. Not always but often.

So when a team wins, it's like 'good for them, they took their opportunity'. Like if the dees had Mac Andrew like we should have, we probably win last year. So yeah, i'm proudly salty.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

You make a good point. And no, those others are not legitimate. At the very least, it's clearly not an even competition. So clearly flawed, so I don't compare teams. The ladder is usually a direct reflection of father/son, NGA handouts etc. Not always but often.

So when a team wins, it's like 'good for them, they took their opportunity'. Like if the dees had Mac Andrew like we should have, we probably win last year. So yeah, i'm proudly salty.

So 2 father sons- not legitimate flags, one father son- yep that’s alright. By what measure??? Another Floggster ‘fact’ is it. You suck

 

[mighty_lions]

You make a good point. And no, those others are not legitimate. At the very least, it's clearly not an even competition. So clearly flawed, so I don't compare teams. The ladder is usually a direct reflection of father/son, NGA handouts etc. Not always but often.

So when a team wins, it's like 'good for them, they took their opportunity'. Like if the dees had Mac Andrew like we should have, we probably win last year. So yeah, i'm proudly salty.

yeah sure Danny 19 year old Mac Andrew would of really stopped you from going out in straight sets 2 years in a row, how delusional

 

[bzparkes]

lol 6 years. what a horrendous deal. The guy has played 1 above average afl season. The rest poor. This is the first season where people stopped laughing at Cam Rayner but he still isn't rated by many neutrals

Could be worse, he could've signed a Clayton Oliver-like contract.

 

[danster168]

Could be worse, he could've signed a Clayton Oliver-like contract.

true. but the footy Oliver was playing beforehand was clearly worth the money. If Petracca wasn't signed up for long term we would've lost him for cheap so there is some value in having players signed up long term but yeah, Oliver's off field behaviour has created a massive issue.

 

[danster168]

yeah sure Danny 19 year old Mac Andrew would of really stopped you from going out in straight sets 2 years in a row, how delusional

look at the final margins. Look at our long injury list we had in those finals.

Straight sets is just a catchy phrase that people use when they don't want to analyse things. Firstly, you cant lose 2 finals unless you finish top 4. We did that. Collingwood didnt even make the finals this year after winning the flag. That's a far bigger choke.

The first final last year, we played the future premiers and were underdogs and not expected to win. Throw in our long injury list on the night and having Brayshaw knocked out 5 mins into the game, then yes a 19 year old future $12 million dollar key position star player of the game would've made the difference.

Once again proving that flags are purely decided by father/son and nga gifts.

Hell the granny was Brisbane vs Syd with a f/s winning the norm. what more evidence do you need.

 

[Junction Lion]

look at the final margins. Look at our long injury list we had in those finals.

Straight sets is just a catchy phrase that people use when they don't want to analyse things. Firstly, you cant lose 2 finals unless you finish top 4. We did that. Collingwood didnt even make the finals this year after winning the flag. That's a far bigger choke.

The first final last year, we played the future premiers and were underdogs and not expected to win. Throw in our long injury list on the night and having Brayshaw knocked out 5 mins into the game, then yes a 19 year old future $12 million dollar key position star player of the game would've made the difference.

Once again proving that flags are purely decided by father/son and nga gifts.

Hell the granny was Brisbane vs Syd with a f/s winning the norm. what more evidence do you need.

Hang on Danster. Isn't Jack Viney a f/s? So in your books Melbourne's premiership isn't legit?

 

[danster168]

Hang on Danster. Isn't Jack Viney a f/s? So in your books Melbourne's premiership isn't legit?

That's been addressed already

 

[Junction Lion]

That's been addressed already

So we just produce better father sons?

 

[Toffee Lion]

The last real flag winner was Richmond in 2020. 21/22/23/24 all marred by Father Son's, we need to put an asterisk on all those flags.

 

[Junction Lion]

The last real flag winner was Richmond in 2020. 21/22/23/24 all marred by Father Son's, we need to put an asterisk on all those flags.

Looks like it. Most teams have the same chance of producing a f/s as the next team. Some just shoot blanks.

 

[Toffee Lion]

Looks like it. Most teams have the same chance of producing a f/s as the next team. Some just shoot blanks.

St.Kilda, shooting blanks since 1966.

 

[iBeng]

The last real flag winner was Richmond in 2020. 21/22/23/24 all marred by Father Son's, we need to put an asterisk on all those flags.

Confirmed, Lions players have superior sperm to Melbourne players!

 

[danster168]

So we just produce better father sons?

quantity. And you got them when you were a top team. We didn't. You haven't had a father/son better than Viney yet. Ashcroft should pass him but not yet.

Melbourne came 16th when we got Viney. Where were you when you got Ashcrofts x 2 and Fletcher? Remind me.

 

[danster168]

Confirmed, Lions players have superior sperm to Melbourne players!

Nice deflection to avoid acknowledging the lack of integrity of the competition.

 

[iBeng]

Nice deflection to avoid acknowledging the lack of integrity of the competition.

There should be some sort of Jizz Index to make it fair

 

[Junction Lion]

quantity. And you got them when you were a top team. We didn't. You haven't had a father/son better than Viney yet. Ashcroft should pass him but not yet.

Melbourne came 16th when we got Viney. Where were you when you got Ashcrofts x 2 and Fletcher? Remind me.

Looks like luck of the draw to me. Maybe our guys copulated more.

 

[iBeng]

Wait no, lets do some horse racing style stuff, we can do sperm trading! Ill trade you one vial of Voss sperm for one vial of...whats a good Demon player we'd want to breed?

 

[mighty_lions]

look at the final margins. Look at our long injury list we had in those finals.

Straight sets is just a catchy phrase that people use when they don't want to analyse things. Firstly, you cant lose 2 finals unless you finish top 4. We did that. Collingwood didnt even make the finals this year after winning the flag. That's a far bigger choke.

The first final last year, we played the future premiers and were underdogs and not expected to win. Throw in our long injury list on the night and having Brayshaw knocked out 5 mins into the game, then yes a 19 year old future $12 million dollar key position star player of the game would've made the difference.

Once again proving that flags are purely decided by father/son and nga gifts.

Hell the granny was Brisbane vs Syd with a f/s winning the norm. what more evidence do you need.

this is the most delusional BS ive ever heard

 

[p4p1]

That's been addressed already

How about players like Scully and Sylvia who you got with a priority pick that due to trades you ended up with Steven May and Salem? Both part of your premiership team.

 

[p4p1]

quantity. And you got them when you were a top team. We didn't. You haven't had a father/son better than Viney yet. Ashcroft should pass him but not yet.

Melbourne came 16th when we got Viney. Where were you when you got Ashcrofts x 2 and Fletcher? Remind me.

So your F/S player is better than our best F/S player when you won the flag, but our flag doesn't count because we have two 20 year old not yet prime players in our premiership side?
Fletcher is a fringe player, picked every week because of his upside but we have players in the reserves who can come in and play his role at the same level.
Melbourne were shit and collecting better picks when they got Viney who was in his prime in your premiership window as were the players you would have got.
High draft picks AFL handouts. You get rewarded for being bad. No different that priority picks really, just that you get an extra one before you normally would because of how bad you have been.

 

[p4p1]

Nice deflection to avoid acknowledging the lack of integrity of the competition.

Irony being that Melbourne are the ones who pushed for the F/S system so they could get Barassi.
So 55, 56, 57, 59, 60 & 64 were not real premierships and shouldn't count because of an inequity in the competition at the time.