Can Hawthorn succeed while ignoring the elite end of the draft? - Part 2

[Hawk Dork]

Worrying signs for hawthorn

Not being indebted to the AFL has its challenges

 

[RUNVS]

Worrying signs for hawthorn

Yep. Only won one game for the entire year and will very likely not win another for all of 2020.

 

[Furn2]

If we go this year undefeated that has to count as succeeding surely ?

 

[Matilda05]

If we go this year undefeated that has to count as succeeding surely ?

Please this is a forum on the Big Footy Main board we are talking about, we could win one of the next three premierships and still they would try a bring up a reason to doubt Hawthorn.

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[tommyk72]

Please this is a forum on the Big Footy Main board we are talking about, we could win the next three premierships and still they would try a bring up a reason to doubt Hawthorn.

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EFA.

 

[matey]

Shorter season will help less time for opposition coaches to work out what Clarko is up to ..... could be a premiership year!

 

[TylerDurden]

Shorter season will help less time for opposition coaches to work out what Clarko is up to ..... could be a premiership year!

If anyone can take advantage of this situation, it's Clarko.

 

[hawkman]

If they push back the draft a year will this be an advantage for Hawthorn?

 

[spudmaster]

If they push back the draft a year will this be an advantage for Hawthorn?

It means us winning the flag won't hurt as much in terms of loss of draft picks.

 

[Furn2]

If there's no draft can you still trade ?

 

[RUNVS]

If there's no draft can you still trade ?

I am sure there will be a draft. Either we will get some sort of season or they will use the finishing positions of the 2019 season. There are going to be far more dud picks in the first round this year, and far more stars taken with bad draft picks this year as well as there is way more unknowns about players than there has been in a few decades.

I mean look at Clayton Oliver. On his 17th year form he was going to be a rookie pick at best. The club that picked the equivilant of him as a rookie is getting a steal.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Hawthorn?
Are they still a thing?

 

[matey]

Last years draft picks on track. With a couple of oldies retiring at season end and kids coming in average age will drop significantly. Hawks are building and really like what I am seeing ...... Rome wasn’t built in a day!

Hawks' top draftees on track for debut in 2020

Hawthorn football boss Graham Wright hopes to see Will Day and Finn Maginess in the senior side in 2020

www.afl.com.au

 

[Sixpence]

Hawthorn?
Are they still a thing?

At the end of all this, we might be one of only 4 clubs to still be a thing!

On another note, if the season does start up again and we win the Premiership, the new Accident of History thread that will undoubtedly be created will be an interesting read.

 

[WWSD]

Where’s that fool Tig017? He talked shit the entire pre-season. Looks like he disappeared.

 

[tommyk72]

I reckon we'll have a hell of a lot of insight into this topic in about 6 weeks.

 

[Gavin Excell]

I reckon we'll have a hell of a lot of insight into this topic in about 6 weeks.

Ah this old thread

Good to see it back

 

[WWSD]

Ah this old thread

Good to see it back

Hawthorn Hysteria

 

[Furn2]

Unbeaten going into June.

I think there's a few apologies that need to be made.

 

[Freomaniac]

Players tend to peak at 28

I was thinking players have their peak year between 25-30.

Not even Coronavirus will kill this thread

I agreed.

Not even Ross Lyons career has been killed, he manages to get a job at Footy classified.

Worrying signs for Hawthorn

*oh how I yearn for simpler times

It really depends. They can burn every 1st rounder and can still manage to recruit well with their late rounders in the 3rd and 4th and get the occassional gem in the Rookie list.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Oldest Round 1 teams:

28.13 Fitzroy 1946
28.12 Hawthorn 2020
28.02 South Melbourne 1945
27.80 North Melbourne 2016
27.78 Collingwood 1920
27.63 Fitzroy 1943
27.61 Richmond 1922
27.60 Footscray 1925

The only three players younger than Sicily (25y76d) were the 21yo's Hanrahan, Morrison & Worpel. Interesting development phase looming for the Hawks.

 

[Pessimistic]

Oldest Round 1 teams:

28.13 Fitzroy 1946
28.12 Hawthorn 2020
28.02 South Melbourne 1945
27.80 North Melbourne 2016
27.78 Collingwood 1920
27.63 Fitzroy 1943
27.61 Richmond 1922
27.60 Footscray 1925

The only three players younger than Sicily (25y76d) were the 21yo's Hanrahan, Morrison & Worpel. Interesting development phase looming for the Hawks.

might be 4 months older come round 2. what do the chicken bones say? Footscray 1925 is interesting, would be the VFL debut

Hanrahan and Morrison might be in line to be replaced older

 

[Freomaniac]

The elderly are at most risk of COVID-19 so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

agreed......

 

[hawkman]

Oldest Round 1 teams:

28.13 Fitzroy 1946
28.12 Hawthorn 2020
28.02 South Melbourne 1945
27.80 North Melbourne 2016
27.78 Collingwood 1920
27.63 Fitzroy 1943
27.61 Richmond 1922
27.60 Footscray 1925

The only three players younger than Sicily (25y76d) were the 21yo's Hanrahan, Morrison & Worpel. Interesting development phase looming for the Hawks.

Hardwick and Lewis being injured didn’t help and should be back for round 2

 

[Furn2]

Until someone can sctually provide data showing a link between age and poor future performance I don't see the point of discussing it tbh.

The evidence from the last 15 or so years says the older your list is, the better future you have. Is there any difference when looking at sides fielded ?