Bad kicking is bad footy. Had the same issue last yr. It is mental though, and will hopefully improve. Fix that and we are right in it
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Nah, that will be the point you start to dip badly.
As much as I hope last night is a reflection of the Hawks season to come I’m not locking it in. Games down in tassie can be weird anyway, even when Hawthorn were a top side the standard down there wasn’t great.
Been a bog average pre season. Doesn't auger well.
Nothing I have seen so far inspires me the Hawks will not be somewhere in positions 6-11 at seasons end, but they did improve significantly over last season.
As I keep saying, this list will peak 2022.
Im still far from convinced the hard rebuild which tales 7yrs minimum and more likely 10yrs is anything but a risky move
As I keep saying, this list will peak 2022.
Im still far from convinced the hard rebuild which tales 7yrs minimum and more likely 10yrs is anything but a risky move
That is what I said
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Notwithstanding this further highlights Richmond’s largely mediocre history (particularly with goal kickers)
Breust is behind Dunstall, Matthews, Hudson, Moncrieff, Franklin, Roughead, Peak, Brereton all above (and the first 6 substantially so)
I guess 3 seasons can do a lot to forget the mediocrity from the preceding 110
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Take your meds.
Do you need a diagram of a peak and the immediately following dip/drop off whatever you want to call it?
I agree it could be quite brutal.
However last years retirees/departees didn't play 24 games in total
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McEvoy , Stratton and Frost - that's a horror show down back. Will be alleviated when Hardwick and Impey come back but they will take time to build cohesion and by then 2020 is likely to be shot. Expect Sicily to play angry. Better hope Frawley at 31 stays resilient.
Scrimshaw will get more game time, which is a positive. Jiath shows tricks.
Agree re Stratton. He's done.
For those proclaiming our list of older, injury prone players. the medical list is now growing, but only Gunston is over 26
Maybe they meant Older players AND Injury prone players
Maybe they meant Older players AND Injury prone players
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Stratton shouldn’t even be in the round 1 team, yet he will end up playing on Charlie Cameron who will destroy him.
Our back 6 round 1 will be:
Frost Frawley stratton
Scrimshaw McEvoy Sicily.
With harry Morrison starting on the pine. Both Jiath and greeves deserve to playing over Stratton and neither will play round 1.
That’s an awful back set up in today’s footy. Big and slow won’t work.
No Hardwick and impey is an absolute killer especially against a team like Brisbane. We then have freo away, Collingwood and Geelong. 2-2 would be considered a huge win...we will be lucky to go 1-3.
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What ? Richmond have won one less flag than Hawthorn !!!
Clarko reminding me a lot of Sheedy in his finals years as coach at Essendon.
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You made it sound like the entire history of Richmond other than the last few years was mediocre.
‘this one keeps getting a run. Sheedy left Essendon age 60. Clarko now 51. Sheedy last flag? 2001 aged mid fifties
clarko is committed to the hawks but sheedy kept playing mind games using the Richmond connection.
both have coached 4 flags
By its very definition it is very mediocre.
12 flags over 112 seasons is very middle of the road (in a competition that for the most part 12 teams in it)
Richmond has what 12 flags which is 5th (equal with Melbourne) among the traditional VFL clubs. Do you feel more comfortable if I said that Richmond (inc the last 3 years) is slightly above mediocre?
Prior to 2017 it’s 10 flags in 109 years which ranks them 6 of the 12 VFL clubs. Smack bang in the middle and marginally ahead of Fitzroy who have been defunct as a VFL / AFL entity for 15 years
It’s not surprising that Richmond has never had stand out goal kickers (not like Collingwood, Hawthorn or Essendon etc)
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Last 3 seasons we have improved significantly in the back half of the season
Do you see Mcevoy playing year at CHB?
I think he's been a great pick up by hawks over the last few years but I can't visualise him at that position and being effective
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He played the last 4-5 weeks last season in the backline...he’s trained this entire pre-season as a backman and played their last night. Round 1, he’s playing in the backline...ceglar is actually a decent ruckman but he’s not nearly as good as McEvoy in the actual craft.
Playing McEvoy in the backline is just a dumb move...don’t worry, you will hear from the usuals about how “Clarko is a genius”...it is so obvious it won’t work even Stevie wonder can see it...if we had impey and Hardwick then maybe.. but when your backline looks like ours going into round 1 it’s not even worth trying.
By round 5 when we are 1-3 or 0-4 McEvoy will be back to our sole ruckman and hopefully Jiath and or greaves will be playing in the backline.
He was already arround the ground by the end of friday. Mitch lewis the second ruck was injured (not rucking)
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