Religion Cardinal George Pell

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Third most senior Catholic in the world convicted on five child sexual abuse charges by jury.
Deserves its own thread.
 

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Yep, found guilty of child abuse. Good riddance and I hope he rots in jail.

https://www.news.com.au/national/ge...e/news-story/96f368233ea0e5cdec684ddebc9b57b2

George Pell found guilty of child sex abuse
Cardinal George Pell has been found guilty of child sex abuse.

Megan Palin@megan_palin

news.com.auFebruary 26, 201911:22am


Cardinal George Pell has been found guilty of child sex abuse and is facing a significant term of imprisonment following a sensational trial in Melbourne.
The third most powerful man in the Vatican and Australia’s most senior Catholic has been found guilty of raping one choirboy and molesting another in Melbourne’s St Patrick’s Cathedral 22 years ago.
A jury delivered the unanimous verdict on 11 December in Melbourne’s county court, but the result was subject to a suppression order and could not be reported until now. It’s expected there will be calls for Pell to be defrocked.
He’s due to return to the County Court for a plea hearing tomorrow and Chief Judge Peter Kidd will sentence him in March.
Pell’s victims were two 13-year-old boys on scholarships to the prestigious St Kevin’s College.
The pair “nicked off” after a Sunday solemn mass in late 1996 and were caught swigging sacramental wine in the priest’s sacristy by Pell, newly installed as Archbishop of Melbourne.
Pell scolded them, exposed his penis from beneath the ornate ceremonial robes, and molested them.
A Melbourne jury in December found Pell guilty of five charges — one of sexually penetrating a child and four of committing indecent acts with children. That verdict was made public on Tuesday after months of procedural secrecy, and the abandonment of a second trial over allegations Pell indecently assaulted boys in Ballarat in the 1970s.
Pell has maintained his innocence over all allegations and has lodged an appeal of his conviction.
 

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So perplexing that they let him walk.
Knee surgery ? High chance of taking the easy way out now I think. If so it would effectively mean he goes unpunished and leaving the victims with more suffering...
 

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So perplexing that they let him walk.
Knee surgery ? High chance of taking the easy way out now I think. If so it would effectively mean he goes unpunished and leaving the victims with more suffering...
What? He's had the surgery already, that was after the first trial. He left today because bail was posted on charges that were drop. He has a plea/sentence hearing tomorrow where he will be remanded afterwards. Try reading or watching what has happened before getting carried away.
 

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Pell's greatest crime remains unpunished (yet rewarded with promotions by the Church).

Pell was the guy who covered up for priests who were also serial child rapists. It was Pell who regularly moved guys like Ridsdale into unsuspecting and trusting communities.

What a sick world we live in where the Catholic Church is still so revered by so many.
 

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So he's actually a pedophile too? Not just a pedophile protector?

I wonder how they managed to prove those two boys weren't lying. Hopefully this isn't another metoo movement false conviction.
 
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You’d think that maybe on one of their quiet days, this might be something that the U.N might want raise in between their hatred of Israel and gobbing off of anything islam.

Personally, you’d also think that anyone powerful and wealthy enough, would have a fairly robust case at The Hague against the roman catholic church for crimes against humanity.

I’m not saying that every catholic church should burn to the ground, but I’ve unfortunately lost my train of thought on that one.

Funnily enough, you’d also imagine that there’d be a flood of apologies from the many posters in here that played at some of the most exquisite mental gymnastics in their apologetics for both Pell and their beloved church!
I’d like a personal apology firstly and secondly if you wouldn’t mind, to all of the victims, for the supposed moral arbiters that betrayed the most vulnerable within and outside of your church!

Lets ******* hear it!!
 

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Pell's greatest crime remains unpunished (yet rewarded with promotions by the Church).

Pell was the guy who covered up for priests who were also serial child rapists. It was Pell who regularly moved guys like Ridsdale into unsuspecting and trusting communities.

What a sick world we live in where the Catholic Church is still so revered by so many.
Centuries of indoctrination from cradle to grave. Preaching fear & damnation. An all powerful clergy with no oversight.

Same with Protestant Churches, these born again happy clappers, the real cultish groups like Scientology & the secret Bretheren types.

Then we have the other all powerful religions like Islam. How many little boys have suffered under all those 'all powerful' Imams & acolytes. They are centuries behind even the Catholics.

We have such a long way to go. So have, are & will suffer because of these bastards.
 

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What? He's had the surgery already, that was after the first trial. He left today because bail was posted on charges that were drop. He has a plea/sentence hearing tomorrow where he will be remanded afterwards. Try reading or watching what has happened before getting carried away.
Information is changing fast around this because of legal suppression that just got lifted but i admit i was not correct......was quoting the live ABC feed at time of post in defence

Point stands though....who gets found guilty of multiple kiddy sex offenses and gets bail ?
 

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What? He's had the surgery already, that was after the first trial. He left today because bail was posted on charges that were drop. He has a plea/sentence hearing tomorrow where he will be remanded afterwards. Try reading or watching what has happened before getting carried away.
The info is fast moving and changing because of the supression order

"As many as 100 journalists accused of breaching the suppression order have been threatened with a charge of contempt of court and could face possible jail terms "
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...reasurer-found-guilty-of-child-sexual-assault
 

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You’d think that maybe on one of their quiet days, this might be something that the U.N might want raise in between their hatred of Israel and gobbing off of anything islam.

Personally, you’d also think that anyone powerful and wealthy enough, would have a fairly robust case at The Hague against the roman catholic church for crimes against humanity.

I’m not saying that every catholic church should burn to the ground, but I’ve unfortunately lost my train of thought on that one.

Funnily enough, you’d also imagine that there’d be a flood of apologies from the many posters in here that played at some of the most exquisite mental gymnastics in their apologetics for both Pell and their beloved church!
I’d like a personal apology firstly and secondly if you wouldn’t mind, to all of the victims, for the supposed moral arbiters that betrayed the most vulnerable within and outside of your church!

Lets ******* hear it!!
You should apologise to yourself. Pell will get off on appeal.
 

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Why do you think that?
An accusation in the early 70’s of him fondling boys at a pool.
Nothing for 20 years and then two accusations of him raping altar boys in the 90’s.
Nothing since.
Pedophiles don’t behave like that. There’s no chance that he’s a pedophile and I’ve heard multiple rumours that those present at his trial couldn’t believe the verdict.
 

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An accusation in the early 70’s of him fondling boys at a pool.
Nothing for 20 years and then two accusations of him raping altar boys in the 90’s.
Nothing since.
Pedophiles don’t behave like that. There’s no chance that he’s a pedophile and I’ve heard multiple rumours that those present at his trial couldn’t believe the verdict.
The trial for the 'fishing' incident is not what he has been found guilty of.

You haven't read today's statement from the victim?

Are you an expert on pedophilia to know how they behave? What about rape?

Neither of us have heard the evidence that was presented in court yet you think that 12 jury members got it wrong?

It isn't the press nor the public that found him guilty it is the jury that heard all the evidence.
 

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The trial for the 'fishing' incident is not what he has been found guilty of.

You haven't read today's statement from the victim?

Are you an expert on pedophilia to know how they behave? What about rape?

Neither of us have heard the evidence that was presented in court yet you think that 12 jury members got it wrong?

It isn't the press nor the public that found him guilty it is the jury that heard all the evidence.
I read the statement and I know that the older Ballarat charges were dropped.
I’ll wait and see what happens next before I make any further comments.
 

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I read the statement and I know that the older Ballarat charges were dropped.
I’ll wait and see what happens next before I make any further comments.
I don't think it will matter you seem to have made up your mind.
You haven't answered :
Are you an expert on pedophilia to know how they behave? What about rape?
 

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An accusation in the early 70’s of him fondling boys at a pool.
Nothing for 20 years and then two accusations of him raping altar boys in the 90’s.
Nothing since.
Pedophiles don’t behave like that. There’s no chance that he’s a pedophile and I’ve heard multiple rumours that those present at his trial couldn’t believe the verdict.
And how do you know what Pedophiles typically act and behave like?

You have studied their movements?

Explain how you are an authority on this matter.

You have a dubious, bordering on utterly embarrassing, posting history. So good luck.
 

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An accusation in the early 70’s of him fondling boys at a pool.
Nothing for 20 years and then two accusations of him raping altar boys in the 90’s.
Nothing since.
Pedophiles don’t behave like that. There’s no chance that he’s a pedophile and I’ve heard multiple rumours that those present at his trial couldn’t believe the verdict.
Congratulations on going into bat for a convicted pedophile, what on earth do you hope to gain by doing so?

I thought Essendon* supporters defending James Hird was bad enough but this takes tribalism to a new and sickening level.
 

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Congratulations on going into bat for a convicted pedophile, what on earth do you hope to gain by doing so?

I thought Essendon* supporters defending James Hird was bad enough but this takes tribalism to a new and sickening level.
Ok, I’ll admit that me saying there’s no chance of him being a pedo is a poor choice of words. “Very unlikely” would be a more accurate description.
 
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