In fairness we read the same every year. No doubt he will be a good player and we will be very happy getting him but that's not say a Smith or Caldwell couldn't be as good if not better. Two of them would be great
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List Mgmt. Carlton's 2018 Draft Thread (cont. in Part 2)
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In fairness we read the same every year. No doubt he will be a good player and we will be very happy getting him but that's not say a Smith or Caldwell couldn't be as good if not better. Two of them would be great
The good old camps.
Wouldn't it be fun should SOS pull a Rozee out of his hat @ #1?
I'd love to know what he genuinely thinks of the other guys and in particular Lukosius, Rankine & smith.
With the Phantom draft just about finished, here are a couple of kids that I would consider rookie listing, depending the make up of the rest of our main list
Luke Moore - 180cm & 84kg
Very smart small forward that uses the ball extremely well
Moore was only recalled when teammate Thomas Baldwin pulled out due to a thigh injury. The South Fremantle product has been likened to Collingwood cult figure Alan Didak and did his draft prospects no harm on the big stage. Moore hit the post with his first set shot but stood up in a tackle and used his footy smarts to set up the opening goal of the game to Brad Oldfield. Minutes later, he gathered a ground ball and snapped his first major. Finished with two goals from 13 disposals.
http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/7107 - Player Stats
Matthew McGuiness - 192cm & 75 kg
Believe he has grown slightly and see him being a Finlayson type. Will need time to develop, but like the way he plays the game
Luke Moore - 180cm & 84kg
Very smart small forward that uses the ball extremely well
Moore was only recalled when teammate Thomas Baldwin pulled out due to a thigh injury. The South Fremantle product has been likened to Collingwood cult figure Alan Didak and did his draft prospects no harm on the big stage. Moore hit the post with his first set shot but stood up in a tackle and used his footy smarts to set up the opening goal of the game to Brad Oldfield. Minutes later, he gathered a ground ball and snapped his first major. Finished with two goals from 13 disposals.
http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/7107 - Player Stats
Matthew McGuiness - 192cm & 75 kg
Believe he has grown slightly and see him being a Finlayson type. Will need time to develop, but like the way he plays the game
There's everything to say that you pick the player you envisaged not to necessarily be best by outside observers, but best for the club.
If we don't get that right, you have problems going forward.
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Just wondering why would gcs - hypothetically of course - put forward such a big offer if smith is the best player/midfielder some are saying. Why wouldn’t they just rub their hands and take him at 2. He seems diligent, professional, good player, has leadership qualities and I haven’t read anywhere he’s a flight risk.
Makes no sense unless Walsh is that good of course.
Makes no sense unless Walsh is that good of course.
Why would you want to take the best player in the draft when you can take the third best player and a pick in the 20's?
Looks like the same point to me.
Anyway, I have already acknowledge that Walsh would be a great selection at pick 1, I just see better players/midfielders/trade options
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Trust me. If I say they were, they were.
The point about mids was to demonstrate that the way we talk about holding the #1 pick may be flawed.
If we're looking at mids per se, the strike rate for taking mids very early in the draft, is extremely good.
It's those nasty talls that make a mess of showing up that holding the pick #1 isn't the be-all and end-all.
where does it state he’s a flight risk anywhere?
Other players being flight risks if GC select them
Walsh is not a flight risk, most country boys in fact
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first listened to that song when i was like 8, i certainly got a suprise
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No one knows who is a flight risk or not. And if they believe walsh has zero chance of thinking about a return to victoria, they are wrong.
No one knows what's around the corner. Look at Beams saying he was staying at the Lions. Next minute... yes walsh has said he would stay. But things change.
Still happy to give gcs 1 for 3 and 6 or just take walsh at 1
So if we do no deal with 1, it will really be intriguing who in fact gcs take at 2, cause it appears they will have a bunch of flight risks to pick from.
I have no doubt we will draft Walsh and be very happy.
Would I trade Pick 1 for 2 picks inside Top 10. Yes
Would I do it for Pick 3 and a Pick in the 20's? Not sure but would depend purely upon how I rate Pick One vs who I think is available at 3.
Also, as a small consideration adding Pick 1 to our list is a marketable commodity and gives more hope.
Would I trade Pick 1 for 2 picks inside Top 10. Yes
Would I do it for Pick 3 and a Pick in the 20's? Not sure but would depend purely upon how I rate Pick One vs who I think is available at 3.
Also, as a small consideration adding Pick 1 to our list is a marketable commodity and gives more hope.
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don't agree with that last bit, soap - pick 1 at carlton is so ho-hum these days - **** I'm sick of the faux mystique surrounding it and the expectations before and after taking it..........
Pick One fatigue?
Of course we’re taking him sos is just pulling everyone’s leg
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what % of our list are top tenners? time to pay the piper, sack the ferryman and shoot the barman...................2019 is right here, right now.........sort of............
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leg-pulling is ok, as long as it doesn't result in a docherty "set-back"............
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I don't see it that way. I think we are very happy to take Walsh BUT if someone is really keen and will do a deal that suits us we would do it. All I see is win/win
Thankfully we now have a competent list management and recruiting team: SOS, Paul Brodie and Michael Agresta. Not just a one man decision.
If they rate Bailey Smith similar to Sam Walsh AND can get 3 & 6 in exchange for pick 1, then I will trust the process and trust our leaders to get it right.
I don't see Gold Coast doing that, they will try pick 3 & a pick in 20s, at which point I would tell them 3 & 6 or go home. This is not about fair trading, this is about unfair trading, and unfair our way. Sam Walsh projects to be a 300 game player and future AFL skipper, pick 3 and a pick in the 20s will not cut the mustard, points system do not hold water here. If Gold Coast really want Sam Walsh, picks 3 & 6 are required, otherwise they can stay put and draft a couple more flight risks.
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reckon clubs are looking to be more adventurous these days in an effort to get a jump on the pack............
Not fussed on the 3rd tall, but have you a like for Moore. On watching the champs. game would doubt he gets to the rookie
draft, if he does, would be a steal. Having said that, I am going to our back yard for Sam Fisher first.
Given the tenuous nature of our small forward brigade Pickett, Fasolo, LeBois and Polson, would happily take both.
McGuiness, looks like he may grow a little more, so as a rookie pick I don't mind him.
As for Moore, many don't rate him, but I do, think he would be a developing prospect, late in the draft
Yep, they'd all be doing different, weird and adventurous things in order to perceivably be gaining some new advantage.
Pity Essendon just took things a little too far.
EDIT: Just noticed I had a mis-type in the first sentence and then realised it may nave been a Freudian mis-type.
The sentence started off like this; Yep, they'd all be doping.
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