What in your opinion would be the deal to get us the picks in that range.
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What in your opinion would be the deal to get us the picks in that range.
Jimmae
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Just as a side note from the Vic Country squad, here's who I'd also look at:
Keighran
Carlin
Lloyd (Jake's brother)
Keighran
Carlin
Lloyd (Jake's brother)
Jimmae
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I've outlined a series of hypothetical delistings and deals after trading down from pick 1 to ultimately wind up selecting at (before you factor in how bids affect pick numbers) 3, 5, 23, 29, 31, 50 & 65, then taking BSOS late.
In that, I had us targeting Bailey at 23 in order to get ahead of Melbourne, Gold Coast, Sydney, Richmond and St Kilda in the back end of the second round, though some of those are dependent on where bids fall for Academy and F/S players (Sydney and the Dogs might not have live picks until the third and fourth rounds, for example).
There's talk he may slide even further, but I doubt he'll make it past the Hawks. We've got two future thirds we can use in a straight trade, but I'm still holding out hope we keep cashing in by trading down towards the bottom of the top 30 and give the list some of the great talent on offer in the top 50 of this draft.
If Williams slides out of the top 40, we're a great chance to trade back into the order for him.
Is BSOS better than Wil Hickmont?
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Although happy with trading period picks, i am slightly concerned we are seemingly only going into this strong draft with only 2 live picks (obviously Ben Silvagni will be chosen as a F/S pick)
Obviously SOS and the recruiting staff felt the need to bring mature/bigger bodies and experienced players to the club (and i agree) but i just wish we could pluck another 2nd and 3rd rounder from somewhere with live trading on draft night.
Then again, injuries notwithstanding, we are fairly close to having a best 22 core that will be part of our next flag tilt, although i still have concerns about the ruck, long term. (Although i like the idea of Harry pinch hitting there, if and when the occasion arises)
Obviously SOS and the recruiting staff felt the need to bring mature/bigger bodies and experienced players to the club (and i agree) but i just wish we could pluck another 2nd and 3rd rounder from somewhere with live trading on draft night.
Then again, injuries notwithstanding, we are fairly close to having a best 22 core that will be part of our next flag tilt, although i still have concerns about the ruck, long term. (Although i like the idea of Harry pinch hitting there, if and when the occasion arises)
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Isn't the point of trading a future first to get another go in this draft to get talent in a year earlier to speed up development? If development is hampered by getting a game, what's the point?
Unless we have a specific target that we rate highly, I don't see the value in trading next year's first without something coming back.
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Jimmae
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FWIW, the pick trade window has now closed. Pick trading will be available again through the draft, and it would seem picks are not being discarded based on list sizes just yet. Perhaps once a team fills their lists, the picks are then immediately deleted?
Hopefully we have some scenarios ready to go, and we're looking to unleash one on Gold Coast come the eve of the draft.
In the mean time, just leave them simmering in the media pressure cooker for a few days.
Hopefully we have some scenarios ready to go, and we're looking to unleash one on Gold Coast come the eve of the draft.
In the mean time, just leave them simmering in the media pressure cooker for a few days.
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Development should not be hampered if you're not getting a game at senior level each and every week.
There are obvious developmental benefits to playing at the highest level, but the good clubs are run well enough that their reserves sides are also good avenues for development.
We need a strong Northern Blues side to ensure that happens, we don't have that yet but there are signs IMO we're on the right track.
With a healthy list I think people might be surprised at how well the VFL side performs, and how well our kids develop in that environment.
If it happens it'll almost certainly only be during the draft, so obviously it'll only be done if there's someone we rate highly left on the board.
We're not going to trade for the sake of trading.
I'll be perfectly happy if we don't pull the trigger on a trade but I'd be disappointed if it's not something we're seriously considering.
As for something coming back...of course there will be. I've already explained the benefits, and it can be argued we're finding someone to absorb the bulk of the risk on for us given the uncertainty they're taking on.
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Never in the history of BF has so much been written by so many with so little said.
Very Churchillian.
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You must've had one of those hip cool English teachers. Hope he/she didn't make you analyze the crap out of it and ruin it
‘Checks in the mail.’
This is a direct result of all those keen on trading to get McGovern. He was never what I wanted so will have to trust why coach Bolton and the recruiting team supported Bolts get him. However we got plenty of shiny new toys from draft in last three years so I will be pretty content getting Walsh, Ben Silvagni and some project youngster with late pick. Walsh should just about round out all the class we need for midfield for next decade. Up to coaching and developing staff now to have them reach their potential collectively as we go through next decade. McGovern needs to compliment everything else they been working on to make full sense in time.
All of those guys have merit, late in the draft. If it was me, Vandermeer is the one
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Sam Fletcher, I have huge confidence in him. Vandermeer interests me too, not sure he’ll be there for our late picks.
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Rumour or what you're hoping for?
Brayden Ham?
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Reckon there’s a fair chance geelong scoop him up.
Another good option
Jimmae had him at pick 84 in the Phantom Draft ahead of Vandemeer, so maybe gettable...either way, looks like there may be some good options with our late picks
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