Cats on Hawks - jealousy?

[CF]

I posted this before, but I think it's worth another look.
It's basically a snapshot of the last 20 years of Hawthorn mastery over Geelong.
Of all the clubs in the AFL, I feel the sorriest for the Cat fans. Even during our ordinary last decade, we've still managed to cause them plenty of grief.

• 1987 Round 22: Jason Dunstall knocks the Cats out of the finals race with 2 goals in time-on at Kardinia Park.
• 1988 Night Grand Final: Defender Chris Mew roosts the winning goal from 55m with seconds remaining.
• 1989 Round 6: Hawthorn turn around a first-half, 10 goal deficit to defeat the Cats, 26 goals to 25.
• 1989 Grand Final: Hawthorn defeat Geelong by 6pts in one of the greatest GFs ever, Dipper and Dermie both climb off the canvas.
• 1991 2nd Semi: Hawthorn def Geelong by 2pts, Jarman kicks a wonder goal from the Member's forward pocket to snatch the lead in time-on.
• 1995 Round 7: Hawthorn (8th) beat the Cats (4th) on Geelong's own dunghill
• 1996 Round 15: In spite of a rash of injuries, the 10th placed Hawks beat 5th placed Geelong by 2pts at Kardinia Park
• 1997 Round 12: 10th placed Hawthorn upset the 3rd placed Cats by 6pts at KP, Daniel Harford kicking the matchwinner from the boundary line
• 1999 Round 21: Hawthorn eliminate Geelong from finals contention in a 2pt thriller, Crawford seals his Brownlow with a BOG and a match-saving tackle in the dying seconds
• 2000 Elimination Final: Hawthorn (8th) defeat Geelong (5th) by 9pts
• 2002 Round 22: Geelong are bundled out of the top 8 when they lose to the Hawks by 18pts.
• 2006 Round 3: Hawthorn send the premiership favourite's season into a tailspin when they shock the Cats in Geelong by 52pts
• 2006 Round 22: Hawthorn give Johnny Barker a memorable send-off, thumping the Cats by 10 goals
• Since their last flag in '63, we've won 8 premierships.

Never mind Partridge and Lunchlady Doris.
Although your handbaggers may never win another flag, at least you know they'll always be competitive.

interesting stats but selective I must say. How do you like these stats:

from the period of 1897-2006 Geelong has played Hawthorn 138 times
Geelong have won 72 times, Hawks have won 65 and 1 draw. Geelong has won 52% of all H&A games against the Hawks.

Interestingly when you look at Finals appearances the stats are as follows:

Geelong: played 92 finals, won 37 finals, lost 54, 1 draw
Hawks played 60 finals, won 37 finals, lost 23. Hawks have a better winning %, because they have appeared in less final series than Geelong.

Pretty even up to this point but this is where the hawks win:

Geelong: 13 GF's played, won 6, lost 8 (1897 there was no GF but declared RU for being 2nd on the ladder)
Hawks:14 GF's played, won 9, Runer Up 5 times

 

[Phil McCreviss]

From reading these forume I always thought Richmond and Hawthorn had a spite thing going with each other but after this morning's two 'pearlers' from catman I'm wondering what Geelong are so jealous about.
First questioning their backline and then questioning their kids. Are you Catters so jealous of Hawthorn or is it plain, massive insecurity to a team that thumped you twice last year and over the years plays Kardinia park better than you do?

People in glass Geelong houses shouldn't throw stones. History will shiow that last year NEITHER of you made the finals and that they twice whipped you.

I have to agree. You would think they would be more grateful considering we GAVE them Gary Ablett. A bit of respect please Geelong supporters.

 

[Partridge]

I have to agree. You would think they would be more grateful considering we GAVE them Gary Ablett. A bit of respect please Geelong supporters.

You also gave us Tim Hargreaves. I think that cancels it out with interest.

 

[The Kipster]

Define 'pearlers'.

Those threads are not trolls, just posing some reasonable questions. What has an Essendon supporter got to do with it?

As has been said, why would we be jealous of a team that regularly finishes below us, and before last year we clearly had the wood over?

Like I said before Doris, lose those tuck shop arms - drop and give me 20, you fat mole...

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

So many gilt-edged chances frittered away.

But you guys will be alright.
You've got that new grandstand. And you've ALWAYS been competitive.

Give me some more details on these gilt-edged chances please Chewy?

Was one of them playing our first GF for some time, against a team that was probably the best of the previous decade?

Or playing 2 GFs against what was basically a state team, that had found their legs and were pretty untouchable?

Or then facing the Blues, who we now know had assembled a team using some underhand, unfair methods?

I know we lost all of these games, and weren't good enough on the day, but I don't think you could call them gilt-edged...

 

[Hawkk]

You can stick your handbag tag, and your selective editing of the years post 1991, up your f**king a**e. When they do send your lot over to Tassie permanently, I'll make sure to dance on your grave.

You see, this is why we are 'smug and arrogant'

 

[CF]

I have to agree. You would think they would be more grateful considering we GAVE them Gary Ablett. A bit of respect please Geelong supporters.

ummm if you weren't willing to give us Gary Ablett he would have returned to playing country football and we would never have seen him again. Such was the disdain he felt at for the Hawks.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Like I said before Doris, lose those tuck shop arms - drop and give me 20, you fat mole...

Like I said before Kip, go eat a penis, you sack of pus...

 

[The Kipster]

^^^ Face it lady (I use that term lightly) your crap...C R A P

 

[Partridge]

You see, this is why we are 'smug and arrogant'

As you earlier said Hawkk - not all. From your posts you haven't been once. However, if we get provoked there's no reason why we can't return fire.

 

[dipper86]

You also gave us Tim Hargreaves. I think that cancels it out with interest.

Nice.

 

[The Kipster]

ummm if you weren't willing to give us Gary Ablett he would have returned to playing country football and we would never have seen him again. Such was the disdain he felt at for the Hawks.

He was the Ben Cousins of that era and hence why we got rid of him...and still went on to win many many flags...

 

[WE Are Geelong]

Define 'pearlers'.

Those threads are not trolls, just posing some reasonable questions. What has an Essendon supporter got to do with it?

As has been said, why would we be jealous of a team that regularly finishes below us, and before last year we clearly had the wood over?

Yes, at the bottom line this is what I have been trying to figure out as I read/wade through the lovely and endearing posts in this thread.

For an Essendon fan to so lovingly and adoringly stir the pot on behalf of his slurry ridden urine motif arched enemy really quite mortifies me.

Everyone on here knows Hawk fans are banal and nonchalantly witless and football challenged...soon to be further anal and inbred with their so called clever little expedition deeper into the bowels of Australia.

For an Essendon fan to slide so seamlessly into the brown patch and take such loving care of their interests is absolutely baffling. I guess Bomber fans dont know who they are anymore...their coach is dressing in Kimonos and trades players like they are fresh pieces of meat on a butchers hook...they cant fight anymore on a footy field and they have a captain who will probably play less games in his tenure than Steven King.

If Bomber fans are struggling for things to post about please for goodness sake dont fudge pack the boring browns...I find it truly disconcerting!

 

[Partridge]

ummm if you weren't willing to give us Gary Ablett he would have returned to playing country football and we would never have seen him again. Such was the disdain he felt at for the Hawks.

As tempting as it is for either side to rub it in, simple fact is leaving Hawthorn was the best thing Ablett could've done. He wasn't first country kid to leave a city team, he won't be the last. He didn't go straight to Geelong anyway - he went to Myrtleford for a year. Anyone could have had a crack at him, he just fell our way. It worked out for both.

 

[Phil McCreviss]

ummm if you weren't willing to give us Gary Ablett he would have returned to playing country football and we would never have seen him again. Such was the disdain he felt at for the Hawks.

You really dont know your history do you. Jeans sacked Ablett for off field misdemeanours. Strangely enough we made the next 7 consecutive grand finals without him. You really have no argument there dear friend

 

[The Kipster]

WE Are Geelong = Knob end

 

[WE Are Geelong]

WE Are Geelong = Knob end

Delightfully articulate...you prove my point more succinctly than I ever could....thankyou..

 

[Phil McCreviss]

Yes, at the bottom line this is what I have been trying to figure out as I read/wade through the lovely and endearing posts in this thread.

For an Essendon fan to so lovingly and adoringly stir the pot on behalf of his slurry ridden urine motif arched enemy really quite mortifies me.

Everyone on here knows Hawk fans are banal and nonchalantly witless and football challenged...soon to be further anal and inbred with their so called clever little expedition deeper into the bowels of Australia.

For an Essendon fan to slide so seamlessly into the brown patch and take such loving care of their interests is absolutely baffling. I guess Bomber fans dont know who they are anymore...their coach is dressing in Kimonos and trades players like they are fresh pieces of meat on a butchers hook...they cant fight anymore on a footy field and they have a captain who will probably play less games in his tenure than Steven King.

If Bomber fans are struggling for things to post about please for goodness sake dont fudge pack the boring browns...I find it truly disconcerting!

Your assessment of Hawthorn supporters is utterly and outright obnoxious. The uneducated, and at times, ignorant qualities you have clearly put on display speak volumes of your upbringing. The aforementioned issues you have dubiously raised self destruct upon closer examination and critical analysis.

Ahhh stuff this.....your just a W****R.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

^^^ Face it lady (I use that term lightly) your crap...C R A P

Sorry Kip, wrong on both counts.

I'm not a lady, and we're quite good actually. Don't bother replying with anything else, I can't hear you while you are all the way down the bottom of the ladder

 

[Chewy]

Hawthorn are better than Geelong, yes

But you're sad and pathetic

Another grand contribution to a thread from Keithy George.
Well done, mate.

 

[The Kipster]

Ummm correct me if I am wrong but we didn't finish down the bottom..Doris...don't let those female whore mones cloud your judgement..

 

[catman2006]

From reading these forume I always thought Richmond and Hawthorn had a spite thing going with each other but after this morning's two 'pearlers' from catman I'm wondering what Geelong are so jealous about.
First questioning their backline and then questioning their kids. Are you Catters so jealous of Hawthorn or is it plain, massive insecurity to a team that thumped you twice last year and over the years plays Kardinia park better than you do?

People in glass Geelong houses shouldn't throw stones. History will shiow that last year NEITHER of you made the finals and that they twice whipped you.

Seems funny you have taken both threads as an insult to Hawthorn.
When most Hawthorn supporters have taken the threads as it's supposed to be, a discussion on each subject.

 

[WE Are Geelong]

Your assessment of Hawthorn supporters is utterly and outright obnoxious. The uneducated, and at times, ignorant qualities you have clearly put on display speak volumes of your upbringing. The aforementioned issues you have dubiously raised self destruct upon closer examination and critical analysis.

Ahhh stuff this.....your just a W****R.

A Warrior did you say? Wow thanks I am very edified by that..thanks.

As for your attempts at writing something that almost sounds interesting or creative becomes rather absurd when it is realised you are supporting the notion of Bomber fans doing your dirty work on here...I am proud to be a warrior...

You are a self styled internet wimp with a limp penis and a moist rear end waiting for the next succulent Bomber fan that cums along ready to stiffen your resolve old chump...

 

[Chewy]

I can't hear you while you are all the way down the bottom of the ladder

In 2006, Geelong finished 10th and Hawthorn finished 11th.

 

[Major Colvin]

Another grand contribution to a thread from Keithy George.
Well done, mate.

I just tell it as I see it. You're welcome, mate.