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[Rotayjay]

Tell them that the employer wanted to pay in cash, under the table.

I don't have statistics, but anecdotally that is not uncommon.

There is an undercurrent of jobs that do not pass muster for the Fair Work Act.

 

[Over The Post]

Very misleading headline. How many people are going to read the article, vs how many will go "******* dole bludgers" and move on?

"This is voluntary unemployment — voluntary for the Reserve Bank, because it is unemployment that the Reserve Bank chooses to allow."

Australia plagued by 'voluntary unemployment', leading economist warns

Eminent economist Professor Ross Garnaut criticises Australia's policymakers for allowing hundreds of thousands of people to remain unemployed in recent years.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Rotayjay]

Very misleading headline. How many people are going to read the article, vs how many will go "******* dole bludgers" and move on?

"This is voluntary unemployment — voluntary for the Reserve Bank, because it is unemployment that the Reserve Bank chooses to allow."

Australia plagued by 'voluntary unemployment', leading economist warns

Eminent economist Professor Ross Garnaut criticises Australia's policymakers for allowing hundreds of thousands of people to remain unemployed in recent years.

www.abc.net.au

Human beings are effectively kept as a 'reserve stock' of unemployed in order to keep wage growth and inflation low. Great isn't it?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I don't have statistics, but anecdotally that is not uncommon.

There is an undercurrent of jobs that do not pass muster for the Fair Work Act.

True, its rife in some industries and less so in others.
Making accusations against employers who did the right thing by their staff and workers would not be fruitful.

 

[Over The Post]

Human beings are effectively kept as a 'reserve stock' of unemployed in order to keep wage growth and inflation low. Great isn't it?

That is *precisely* the government policy.

 

[Father Jack]

Why not just start a hotline for all those jobs that apparently can't be filled? I mean, if they are increasing the number of job applications that the unemployed have to do a month, then that must mean that there must be jobs that no one is applying for, otherwise what difference would it make?

 

[cartwright]

In case you missed it, your fed govt on why they get $280 a day and Newstart is $300 a week

 

[Rotayjay]

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In case you missed it, your fed govt on why they get $280 a day and Newstart is $300 a week

Right wing politicians are just frightfully bad people.

 

[Over The Post]

More from the "No sh*t?" file:

'Recipe for exploitation': Claims Vanuatu's seasonal workers faced death threats in QLD cause stir

Controversy provoked a social media storm in Vanuatu after its High Commissioner to Australia claimed several seasonal workers faced death threats in a bitter employment dispute in regional Queensland.

www.abc.net.au

Professor Chand said the federal government should consider reshaping the program to allow seasonal workers to move between employers in Australia.
"[That way] the competitive forces of demand for these workers can lead to improved conditions for the workers," he said.
"Bad employers will get weeded out in the process. Tying workers to a single employer, at whose mercy workers are for shifts, is a recipe for exploitation of the sponsored workers."

 

[Chief]

In case you missed it, your fed govt on why they get $280 a day and Newstart is $300 a week

So it’s about taxpayers money... but not the taxpayers money that Ruston gets.

 

[cartwright]

So it’s about taxpayers money... but not the taxpayers money that Ruston gets.

Yep... it’s definitely not about tax payers money when it’s robodebt or buying $3m worth of land for $30million.

 

[Over The Post]

'Our focus is to move people off JobSeeker', but economists warn cutting it could achieve the opposite

Up to 40,000 Australians could lose their jobs after the federal government cuts the JobSeeker payment from April, according to new analysis from the Grattan Institute.

www.abc.net.au

f***ers.

 

[NSWCROW]

Welcome to training for our Put the Heat on a Cheat Helpline | First Dog on the Moon

Remember poor people are lazy which is why they deserve to be poor there’s no other reason

www.theguardian.com

 

[Dry Rot]

There's going to be a lot of idiot Liberal voting sheep on JobKeeper who will be getting an ugly surprise at the art of April.

 

[Rotayjay]

There's going to be a lot of idiot Liberal voting sheep on JobKeeper who will be getting an ugly surprise at the art of April.

I think the Coalition has looked at their internal polling and made a calculated decision that the community outrage over this, and the ranks of unemployed Australians, won't be big enough to cost them seats.

Overall the plight of unemployed people doesn't get that much traction, now that unemployment is back below 7%. This country has a cultural problem where people out of work are seen as the 'other'.

 

[Rotayjay]

I'm getting sick and tired of some people saying 'I've always worked, I've never been on Centrelink.'

Cool!

 

[Over The Post]

Well I always worked, until I lost my career job.

It's as stupid as a ghost saying, "I've always breathed until I died."

 

[Elroo]

In case you missed it, your fed govt on why they get $280 a day and Newstart is $300 a week

Spend some money to build accommodation for politicians at HMAS Harman in Canberra. Then remove the $280 per night they claim, and inform them that they can live at HMAS Harman when they are in Canberra and be feed out of the current mess hall on base. If they don't like the accommodation and meals provided, then they can pay for other accommodation out of their own pocket.

 

[Over The Post]

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Spend some money to build accommodation for politicians at HMAS Harman in Canberra. Then remove the $280 per night they claim, and inform them that they can live at HMAS Harman when they are in Canberra and be feed out of the current mess hall on base. If they don't like the accommodation and meals provided, then they can pay for other accommodation out of their own pocket.

It's been a dodgy perk for years

Many poli's actually share houses together to keep costs extremely low and pocket the lot.

Change it to a receipt required for every cost with a per day cap, and watch everything change

And all of them do it, not just alp or libs

 

[Over The Post]

Were JobKeeper payments supposed to flow to shareholders?

Is it fair for JobKeeper payments to flow to shareholders? Or, as Prime Minister Scott Morrison suggests, is it just the "politics of envy", writes Gareth Hutchens.

www.abc.net.au

tl;dr

One of those companies was AP Eagers, Australia's biggest car retailing group.
It declared a profit after tax of $156 million despite experiencing historically low sales in April and May during the lockdowns.
It received JobKeeper subsidies worth $130.5 million from Australia's government, and $4 million in wage subsidies from New Zealand's government.

It said it would be paying dividends to its shareholders worth $64 million this year — including $17 million to the billionaire Nick Politis, who chairs the Sydney Roosters National Rugby League club and owns 27 per cent of the car group's shares through his company WFM Motors.

AP Eagers chief executive Martin Ward said the company wouldn't be repaying any of the $130 million in JobKeeper subsidies because he believed the money was used "for the right intentions"


campaigners.

 

[FRUMPY]

Were JobKeeper payments supposed to flow to shareholders?

Is it fair for JobKeeper payments to flow to shareholders? Or, as Prime Minister Scott Morrison suggests, is it just the "politics of envy", writes Gareth Hutchens.

www.abc.net.au

tl;dr

One of those companies was AP Eagers, Australia's biggest car retailing group.
It declared a profit after tax of $156 million despite experiencing historically low sales in April and May during the lockdowns.
It received JobKeeper subsidies worth $130.5 million from Australia's government, and $4 million in wage subsidies from New Zealand's government.

It said it would be paying dividends to its shareholders worth $64 million this year — including $17 million to the billionaire Nick Politis, who chairs the Sydney Roosters National Rugby League club and owns 27 per cent of the car group's shares through his company WFM Motors.

AP Eagers chief executive Martin Ward said the company wouldn't be repaying any of the $130 million in JobKeeper subsidies because he believed the money was used "for the right intentions"


campaigners.

Jobkeeper was terribly set up from the outset. I commented on this on the covid threads at the time. Should have been a month by month thing.

People expecting companies to pay it back though is laughable. Why would you? Government screws everyone over at some point, may as well make good when they fu** up and give you free money.

So many ma and pa businesses have benefited the same way.

And the idea of jobkeeper was to keep people in jobs, it did that, otherwise they didn't get the payments.

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[eddiesmith]

Jobkeeper was terribly set up from the outset. I commented on this on the covid threads at the time. Should have been a month by month thing.

People expecting companies to pay it back though is laughable. Why would you? Government screws everyone over at some point, may as well make good when they fu** up and give you free money.

So many ma and pa businesses have benefited the same way.

And the idea of jobkeeper was to keep people in jobs, it did that, otherwise they didn't get the payments.

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The Victorian Government incorrectly paid small businesses money and are demanding their money back!

 

[yodellinhank]

It's been a dodgy perk for years

Many poli's actually share houses together to keep costs extremely low and pocket the lot.

Change it to a receipt required for every cost with a per day cap, and watch everything change

And all of them do it, not just alp or libs

It's an allowance. It's a way of keeping salaries lower but still paying the person in the job more. How many people receive "uniform allowance" when uniforms are supplied, etc?

To the best of my knowledge, lowering the allowance would lead to increased salaries which means the cost goes up for super payments and redundancies.

 

[Gethelred]

The Victorian Government incorrectly paid small businesses money and are demanding their money back!

Do you have evidence of this?