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Quarantine Chimp
Nov 17, 2007
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Very misleading headline. How many people are going to read the article, vs how many will go "******* dole bludgers" and move on?

"This is voluntary unemployment — voluntary for the Reserve Bank, because it is unemployment that the Reserve Bank chooses to allow."

 

Rotayjay

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Very misleading headline. How many people are going to read the article, vs how many will go "******* dole bludgers" and move on?

"This is voluntary unemployment — voluntary for the Reserve Bank, because it is unemployment that the Reserve Bank chooses to allow."

Human beings are effectively kept as a 'reserve stock' of unemployed in order to keep wage growth and inflation low. Great isn't it?
 

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Father Jack

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Why not just start a hotline for all those jobs that apparently can't be filled? I mean, if they are increasing the number of job applications that the unemployed have to do a month, then that must mean that there must be jobs that no one is applying for, otherwise what difference would it make?
 

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More from the "No sh*t?" file:


Professor Chand said the federal government should consider reshaping the program to allow seasonal workers to move between employers in Australia.
"[That way] the competitive forces of demand for these workers can lead to improved conditions for the workers," he said.
"Bad employers will get weeded out in the process. Tying workers to a single employer, at whose mercy workers are for shifts, is a recipe for exploitation of the sponsored workers."
 

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Rotayjay

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There's going to be a lot of idiot Liberal voting sheep on JobKeeper who will be getting an ugly surprise at the art of April.
I think the Coalition has looked at their internal polling and made a calculated decision that the community outrage over this, and the ranks of unemployed Australians, won't be big enough to cost them seats.

Overall the plight of unemployed people doesn't get that much traction, now that unemployment is back below 7%. This country has a cultural problem where people out of work are seen as the 'other'.
 

Elroo

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In case you missed it, your fed govt on why they get $280 a day and Newstart is $300 a week

Spend some money to build accommodation for politicians at HMAS Harman in Canberra. Then remove the $280 per night they claim, and inform them that they can live at HMAS Harman when they are in Canberra and be feed out of the current mess hall on base. If they don't like the accommodation and meals provided, then they can pay for other accommodation out of their own pocket.
 

Ned_Flanders

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Spend some money to build accommodation for politicians at HMAS Harman in Canberra. Then remove the $280 per night they claim, and inform them that they can live at HMAS Harman when they are in Canberra and be feed out of the current mess hall on base. If they don't like the accommodation and meals provided, then they can pay for other accommodation out of their own pocket.
It's been a dodgy perk for years

Many poli's actually share houses together to keep costs extremely low and pocket the lot.

Change it to a receipt required for every cost with a per day cap, and watch everything change

And all of them do it, not just alp or libs
 

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tl;dr

One of those companies was AP Eagers, Australia's biggest car retailing group.
It declared a profit after tax of $156 million despite experiencing historically low sales in April and May during the lockdowns.
It received JobKeeper subsidies worth $130.5 million from Australia's government, and $4 million in wage subsidies from New Zealand's government.

It said it would be paying dividends to its shareholders worth $64 million this year — including $17 million to the billionaire Nick Politis, who chairs the Sydney Roosters National Rugby League club and owns 27 per cent of the car group's shares through his company WFM Motors.

AP Eagers chief executive Martin Ward said the company wouldn't be repaying any of the $130 million in JobKeeper subsidies because he believed the money was used "for the right intentions"


campaigners.
 

FRUMPY

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tl;dr

One of those companies was AP Eagers, Australia's biggest car retailing group.
It declared a profit after tax of $156 million despite experiencing historically low sales in April and May during the lockdowns.
It received JobKeeper subsidies worth $130.5 million from Australia's government, and $4 million in wage subsidies from New Zealand's government.

It said it would be paying dividends to its shareholders worth $64 million this year — including $17 million to the billionaire Nick Politis, who chairs the Sydney Roosters National Rugby League club and owns 27 per cent of the car group's shares through his company WFM Motors.

AP Eagers chief executive Martin Ward said the company wouldn't be repaying any of the $130 million in JobKeeper subsidies because he believed the money was used "for the right intentions"


campaigners.
Jobkeeper was terribly set up from the outset. I commented on this on the covid threads at the time. Should have been a month by month thing.

People expecting companies to pay it back though is laughable. Why would you? Government screws everyone over at some point, may as well make good when they fu** up and give you free money.

So many ma and pa businesses have benefited the same way.

And the idea of jobkeeper was to keep people in jobs, it did that, otherwise they didn't get the payments.

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eddiesmith

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Jobkeeper was terribly set up from the outset. I commented on this on the covid threads at the time. Should have been a month by month thing.

People expecting companies to pay it back though is laughable. Why would you? Government screws everyone over at some point, may as well make good when they fu** up and give you free money.

So many ma and pa businesses have benefited the same way.

And the idea of jobkeeper was to keep people in jobs, it did that, otherwise they didn't get the payments.

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The Victorian Government incorrectly paid small businesses money and are demanding their money back!
 

yodellinhank

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It's been a dodgy perk for years

Many poli's actually share houses together to keep costs extremely low and pocket the lot.

Change it to a receipt required for every cost with a per day cap, and watch everything change

And all of them do it, not just alp or libs
It's an allowance. It's a way of keeping salaries lower but still paying the person in the job more. How many people receive "uniform allowance" when uniforms are supplied, etc?

To the best of my knowledge, lowering the allowance would lead to increased salaries which means the cost goes up for super payments and redundancies.
 

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