changes for boxing day test.

[JackOutback]

Moving Marsh up to open is a bad move in my opinion. He's not an opener and one big score against a third rate side like the WI's doesn't change that.

I think he's been quite good in his last two tests but the only way I'd be picking him is at the expense of his brother or to go in unchanged with Khawaja to earn his spot back.

I 100 per cent agree that he should not open. He is not an opener and plays his best cricket at 5. CA have done him a disservice shuffling him around the order, even if it looked like they were doing him a favour by accommodating him in the team.

 

[mikey127]

Shillingford back playing domestic cricket. If he is cleared to bowl again why not bri g him out? Chanderpaul junior made 81 on the weekend for Guyana, bring him in, at least his dad will teach him how much it means to play for the Windies

 

[mikey127]

There is a guy doing well in West Indies domestic cricket called Rosyon Chase. Played ib the warm up game iver their against us earlier this year. Why not give him a go.

 

[Hellgood]

There is a guy doing well in West Indies domestic cricket called Rosyon Chase. Played ib the warm up game iver their against us earlier this year. Why not give him a go.

Yeah righto .

All of the West Indies young batsmen currently playing have shown something at some stage (ie. Blackwood looked excellent against England) but none are able to do it consistently and appear out of their depth when things aren't going their way. Making ludicrous chop and change calls like the one in the quoted post based on one innings is just an absolute waste of time.

 

[HBF]

No change, unless the selectors look at dropping Siddle.

 

[Mitchell54]

No change, unless the selectors look at dropping Siddle.

I reckon Siddle has definitely done enough to retain his spot.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Marsh opening in Shield average 39.72 and one 100 since 2010 from 11 innings.
Khawaja opening in Shield average 26 from 19 innings.
Burns opening average 41.26 from 47 innings; four centuries and 10 half centuries.

 

[Van_Dyke]

I personally think that long term none of Marsh, Khawaja or Burns are openers. But given the squad selected, Burns is best suited, not that it says much. For Boxing Day I can't see how you can say Khawaja is fit based of 1 T20 game, where he'll be out there for 40 overs, 20 of them in the field and who knows how many balls he'll face. Un-changed for me.

 

[the_interloper]

I reckon Siddle has definitely done enough to retain his spot.

Me too, he continues to get underrated. Though taking him out for Jackson Bird wouldn't be a silly idea, but I think they still need to retain some experience with the ball.

 

[Mitchell54]

Me too, he continues to get underrated. Though taking him out for Jackson Bird wouldn't be a silly idea, but I think they still need to retain some experience with the ball.

He keeps a very good economy rate and puts the pressure on the batmen to score. This makes it much easier for the bowler that will coming from the other end next over. And, as you said. He brings well needed experience to the bowling attack after Starc(injured) and Johnson(retired) are both out for the summer.

 

[HBF]

I reckon Siddle has definitely done enough to retain his spot.

I think he's 50/50 to be honest.

 

[Sketi]

Surely they would have brought Bird into the squad if they were thinking of dropping Siddle. Siddle is safe.

Not too keen on Khawaja opening, mainly because it felt like we had finally solved the long standing issue of who bats at number 3.

 

[bird_man]

Can't see any bowlers getting dropped, especially when NCN is the next man in.

 

[big_e]

Not too keen on Khawaja opening, mainly because it felt like we had finally solved the long standing issue of who bats at number 3.

Settled because he got runs on pitches that most people reckon their grandmother could have scored on? Nothing against Khawaja, I hope he makes it, but I think this summer hasn't really settled anything.

 

[mikey127]

Yeah righto .

All of the West Indies young batsmen currently playing have shown something at some stage (ie. Blackwood looked excellent against England) but none are able to do it consistently and appear out of their depth when things aren't going their way. Making ludicrous chop and change calls like the one in the quoted post based on one innings is just an absolute waste of time.

There is a bloke called Samuels that they need to drop though.

 

[Pounce]

He keeps a very good economy rate and puts the pressure on the batmen to score. This makes it much easier for the bowler that will coming from the other end next over. And, as you said. He brings well needed experience to the bowling attack after Starc(injured) and Johnson(retired) are both out for the summer.

In my opinion, Siddle is the doing the bare minimum to retain his place in the side. He is struggling to bowl at 130km/h and he doesn't swing the ball. This means he limits himself to only taking wickets by bowling the ball around off stump and hoping the batsman gets himself out. Siddle isn't the only bowler that can bowl economically, other bowlers like Mennie, Bird and Coulter-Nile are younger, can swing the ball and bowl faster than Siddle.

I hope the selectors replace Siddle with Coulter-Nile. I don't like the fact Coulter-Nile hasn't played a Sheffield Shield game this summer but since he is in the squad he might as well be picked because he would have a lot more impact in the test team than Siddle.

 

[Sketi]

Settled because he got runs on pitches that most people reckon their grandmother could have scored on? Nothing against Khawaja, I hope he makes it, but I think this summer hasn't really settled anything.

I thought his knocks were pretty convincing regardless. Your right though, it could all come crashing down at any moment. But I'm optimistic / hoping he is ready, he just looks like a number 3.

Rest him for boxing day, make sure he is right for Sydney and then NZ. Hopefully he can really cement it then.

 

[Mitchell54]

Siddle isn't the only bowler that can bowl economically, other bowlers like Mennie, Bird and Coulter-Nile

When was the last time these guys played international test cricket and give me their stats for that game and their international test careers. To me it doesn't matter how old you. It's not like an AFL, NRL, soccer squad that you have to have a certain amount of people on the squad etc.
Come back to me then after you got the stats.

 

[JackOutback]

Settled because he got runs on pitches that most people reckon their grandmother could have scored on? Nothing against Khawaja, I hope he makes it, but I think this summer hasn't really settled anything.

Yeah, I don't quite get the khawaja love. Sure, he got two good scores, but he had a mediocre start to his career, poor Shield form a couple of years back, no Shield form last year because of injury, poor A tour of India. People talk about Marsh's undeserved selection, but khawaja's a head scratcher too. It's why I don't think he has any automatic claim on his position.

 

[The 747]

In my opinion, Siddle is the doing the bare minimum to retain his place in the side. He is struggling to bowl at 130km/h and he doesn't swing the ball. This means he limits himself to only taking wickets by bowling the ball around off stump and hoping the batsman gets himself out. Siddle isn't the only bowler that can bowl economically, other bowlers like Mennie, Bird and Coulter-Nile are younger, can swing the ball and bowl faster than Siddle.

I hope the selectors replace Siddle with Coulter-Nile. I don't like the fact Coulter-Nile hasn't played a Sheffield Shield game this summer but since he is in the squad he might as well be picked because he would have a lot more impact in the test team than Siddle.

Being younger, faster and swingyer does not equal more economical.

 

[big_e]

In my opinion, Siddle is the doing the bare minimum to retain his place in the side. He is struggling to bowl at 130km/h and he doesn't swing the ball. This means he limits himself to only taking wickets by bowling the ball around off stump and hoping the batsman gets himself out. Siddle isn't the only bowler that can bowl economically, other bowlers like Mennie, Bird and Coulter-Nile are younger, can swing the ball and bowl faster than Siddle.

I hope the selectors replace Siddle with Coulter-Nile. I don't like the fact Coulter-Nile hasn't played a Sheffield Shield game this summer but since he is in the squad he might as well be picked because he would have a lot more impact in the test team than Siddle.

That pretty much describes Glenn McGrath's career....

 

[The_Reaper]

Glenn McGrath was a very different bowler to Peter Siddle.

I don't want Siddle dropped but lets not get ridiculous and compare him to McGrath. Siddle is struggling and when our better options return to fitness will be dropped.

 

[Big Bryza]

Unchanged lineup for Boxing Day.

I'm sorry but a T20 is not and never will be a warmup for a test match.

I'm not convinced on Marsh, Burns or Ussie. If either Marsh or Burns fail Boxing Day then it'll be see you later. If they both fail then it'll be a flip of the coin job. If they both ton up well then...

 

[big_e]

Glenn McGrath was a very different bowler to Peter Siddle.

I don't want Siddle dropped but lets not get ridiculous and compare him to McGrath. Siddle is struggling and when our better options return to fitness will be dropped.

Yeah, not comparing Siddle to McGrath. More saying that there is nothing inherently wrong with bowling in the 130s.

 

[Pounce]

When was the last time these guys played international test cricket and give me their stats for that game and their international test careers. To me it doesn't matter how old you. It's not like an AFL, NRL, soccer squad that you have to have a certain amount of people on the squad etc.
Come back to me then after you got the stats.

Jackson Bird - 13 wickets from 3 test matches at a average of 23.30, economy of 2.87 and a strike rate of 48.6. Bird beats Siddle in all of those stats apart from wickets obviously.

In Bird's last test match (his first time in England for Australia) he took 2/58 and 0/67. Those stats are very close to what Siddle's looks like per game for Australia this season and I don't think I am reaching saying Bird would do better than that in Australia.

Mennie and Coulter-Nile haven't made their test debut yet but I would back them to do better than Siddle.