Changes for the Dogs game......

[King_Of_Ling]

Will there be any changes to the side apart from Hille?? I would like to see Johns in but I dunno if he is fit or not. A big tall forward line will really test out the doggies. Can we please replace pev with someone with a bit of foot speed (and that can kick), the doggies aren't getting any slower!!!

Also I didn't get to see the game on the weekend, but by the stats ricky only got 5 possies, so did he get much game time??

Thoughts??

 

[Longy413]

IN - Cartledge, Winderlich, Hird
OUT - Hille, Slattery, Peverill

Ricky's run will be important. He didn't get any game time on Saturday night, but he was okay while he was on. I'd like to see Nash come in, but I wouldn't go dropping anyone else just yet.

Having said all that, I suspect we'll see Sheedy go soft and keep Peverill in the side and bring in Bolton as well.

 

[Darealrath]

What i'd like.

In: Hird, Winderlich
Out: Peverill, Hille

What i fear.

In: Winderlich, Bolton
Out: Hille, Dyson

 

[dogbowl]

In: Hird, Winderlich

No good, I think Hirdy needs another rest, at least until the week after

 

[mcphee_is_a_gun]

Is Johns available? if so i think he should play to stretch the doggies defence.

 

[jules101]

Out: Hille, Peverill
In: Winderlich, Hird

My Team:

FB: McVeigh Fletcher Welsh
HB: McPhee L-Murray Soloman
C: Heff Stants Dyson
HF: Hird Lucas M Johnson
FF: Lovett Lloyd Monfries
R: Bradley, Watson, Campo
Inter: Winder, JJ, Ryder, Slattery

Winder JJ and MJ to rotate through the midfield.. Hopefully we are in with a chance

 

[TeeBee]

I think it will be Hird, Windy and Bolton in.

Pev and Hille out and Dyson as the whipping boy.

With Keps no doubt playing the majority of game time in the ruck, CHF will be vacant. With the dogs playing a mobile mid-sized CHF in Murphy, it looks like Bolton will be the perfect match up.....at least Bolton will come into the side on form.

Johns would be still a week away. Cartledge was thrashed in the VFL last week and certainly hasn't earnt a spot and every other tall left on our list is basically injured.

 

[jules101]

I think it will be Hird, Windy and Bolton in.

Pev and Hille out and Dyson as the whipping boy.

With Keps no doubt playing the majority of game time in the ruck, CHF will be vacant. With the dogs playing a mobile mid-sized CHF in Murphy, it looks like Bolton will be the perfect match up.....at least Bolton will come into the side on form.

Johns would be still a week away. Cartledge was thrashed in the VFL last week and certainly hasn't earnt a spot and every other tall left on our list is basically injured.

I guarantee now that if Bolton plays on Murphy we will lose. Murphy will carve up Bolton, no way Bolton will be able to keep up with him on the lead.

 

[TeeBee]

I guarantee now that if Bolton plays on Murphy we will lose. Murphy will carve up Bolton, no way Bolton will be able to keep up with him on the lead.

If Murphy was playing out of the square I would tend to agree with you. But this kid needs someone with the tank to keep up because he'll run all day. He's good overhead and can play anywhere on the ground. He's basically a no frills Hird. Bolton comes to mind because he can stay with him all day and has the height to beat him in a contested mark situation. Who would you suggest to man him?

 

[Longy413]

If Murphy was playing out of the square I would tend to agree with you. But this kid needs someone with the tank to keep up because he'll run all day. He's good overhead and can play anywhere on the ground. He's basically a no frills Hird. Bolton comes to mind because he can stay with him all day and has the height to beat him in a contested mark situation. Who would you suggest to man him?

He does spend time playing out of the square, but Murphy's greatest strength is Bolton's greatest weakness. Footy smarts.

If he plays deep forward, play Fletcher on him and I still think Reynolds is a better match up than Bolton.

 

[DaSawx]

I'd go Reynolds any day of the week

 

[ant555]

IN - Cartledge, Winderlich, Hird
OUT - Hille, Slattery, Peverill

Ricky's run will be important. He didn't get any game time on Saturday night, but he was okay while he was on. I'd like to see Nash come in, but I wouldn't go dropping anyone else just yet.

Having said all that, I suspect we'll see Sheedy go soft and keep Peverill in the side and bring in Bolton as well.

Dont like your ins and out this week Longy . We cant go into the game with both Carts and Ryder , there would be a big chance neither of them would get a kick. As much as i hate to say it i think Kep may have to ruck this week and we play either Carts or Ryder. I just dont think we can afford to have two blokes in the side who may not get a stat.

I am surprised everyone is calling for Slattery to be dropped. One poor game and he is out??

I agree with the last line , i just know that Bolton will get a call up .

 

[marcuz]

I am surprised everyone is calling for Slattery to be dropped. One poor game and he is out??

Slats got shown up for pace last week and things wont get much better for him this week against the fleet footed dogs. i think Slats will make a very good on baller one day but when in defence he needs to be given the right matchup.

 

[Longy413]

Dont like your ins and out this week Longy . We cant go into the game with both Carts and Ryder , there would be a big chance neither of them would get a kick. As much as i hate to say it i think Kep may have to ruck this week and we play either Carts or Ryder. I just dont think we can afford to have two blokes in the side who may not get a stat.

Why do we all believe Bradley would make a better ruckman than Cartledge for this week?

Bradley has never, ever been a ruckman. Not as a kid, not as a senior footballer. Cartledge has 3 years development into him, surely this is the reason we kept him on the list. He was handy against Collingwood last season and his pre-season game against Sydney looked very good as well.

He might not be ready, but he's not any less ready than Bradley. If we don't need Bradley down back, play him down forward and watch the Dogs have a crack at finding opponents for Lloyd, Lucas and Bradley while Hargrave is sitting in the stands.

I am surprised everyone is calling for Slattery to be dropped. One poor game and he is out??

Probably harsh, but I want to see Winderlich in the side and someone had to make way.

 

[ant555]

Why do we all believe Bradley would make a better ruckman than Cartledge for this week?

Bradley has never, ever been a ruckman. Not as a kid, not as a senior footballer. Cartledge has 3 years development into him, surely this is the reason we kept him on the list. He was handy against Collingwood last season and his pre-season game against Sydney looked very good as well.

He might not be ready, but he's not any less ready than Bradley. If we don't need Bradley down back, play him down forward and watch the Dogs have a crack at finding opponents for Lloyd, Lucas and Bradley while Hargrave is sitting in the stands.

I am conceding the ruck taps. My real concern is around the ground . I saw Carts against Werribee and not only did he get beaten in the ruck contests he was very ordinary around the ground. Street got a lot of the footy , Carts didnt and his positioning when he pushed back in defence was ordinary.Even when he was moved forward he just didnt look like his head was in the game. He had to be told several times to get in front and in the end he was benched again. At this stage he simply doesnt look like he has the confidence in his game that he had last season.
If we are nt going to win the taps we will need someone who can hurt them around the ground and with Ryder and Carts in combo that will not happen.

 

[foj1]

In:Bolton, Winderlich
Out: Hille, Ryder
I know these selections will never happen and they are certainly from left field but in basketball parlance I would play small. I would have Kep and Bolton play as followers, Peverill and watson hard tag west in rotations, Slattery on Cross, Lovett play on Gilbee, Lovett Murray on griffen. The bulldogs get a lot of run from the hb line and you have to put pressure on their playmakers. i think Mcphee is a pretty good matchup for Murphy, MJ to Johnson and McVeigh to Robbins. We still have Dyson, Stanton, JJ, Hef, Campo and Winderlich to rotate through the middle. I would resist the temptation to bring Hird back as Im not sure he will have the petrol to keep up with the dogs and its fair to say he doesnt chase like he used to. I wouldnt be surprised to see Dempsey brought in for his pace but I would stick with some experience at this stage and keep some faith in our 2nd,3rd and 4th year players.

 

[Crave]

I agree that we're conceding ruck taps but if the doggies have such a short forward like, maybe they could match their forward line pace with some of our middle sized players like M Johnson, Solly n Mc Veigh n pinch hit with Fletch in the ruck...he'd easily out run Minson or Street n their much spoken about small forward line could be matched with an equally sized backline. Bradley can handle Grant, Solly on Johnno, McVeigh on Robbins n Lovett-Murray on Murphy
May as well try the unconventional while its early in the season!

 

[Bomberz_pacers07]

I agree that we're conceding ruck taps but if the doggies have such a short forward like, maybe they could match their forward line pace with some of our middle sized players like M Johnson, Solly n Mc Veigh n pinch hit with Fletch in the ruck...he'd easily out run Minson or Street n their much spoken about small forward line could be matched with an equally sized backline. Bradley can handle Grant, Solly on Johnno, McVeigh on Robbins n Lovett-Murray on Murphy
May as well try the unconventional while its early in the season!

I was thinking that exact same thing, fletcher in my mind is easily to slow for any of the bulldogs forwards (except grant if he plays FF). why leave him to get burnt by a faster bulldog forward, give him 5-10mins in the ruck each quarter n he would easily outrun minson or street. Hell even giv him a run at FF n keep him in the square with Lucas roming the 50 and Lloyd leading out of the square. I dont think the bulldog defenders could handle that pressure. Also why dont we just let Ryder start in the ruck. He has shown he is a great tap-ruckman and all he needs is confidence in my mind

 

[Philzsay]

Gee, it would have been handy if Matt Allan hadn't retired. This is the exact reason a number of people myself included wanted us to draft a recycled experienced ruckman last draft.

For me:
In: Cartledge, Hird (Winderlich if Hird doesn't get up)
Out: Hille, Pev

I would have Cartledge, Ryder and Bradley all share the ruck. Give them 10 minutes each in the first quarter. Repeat in the second quarter if necessary until it becomes apparent that one of them has turned up to play and demands to ruck out the rest of the game.
Cartledge may not be ready for senior footy yet, but sometimes you have to take your opportunties when they come. Here is his chance. He was recruited to be a ruckman. He has one game here where he can be the number 1 ruckman. Give him that chance. Worse comes to worse if he fails we can pinch hit with Bradley and Ryder. But give Carts the chance to step up! Sometimes when you give someone great responsibilty they play above themselves and perform brilliantly. I'm not saying that Carts will...but give him the chance to.

Also i would leave Slats in for one more week. Reasoning is that the Bulldogs have a number of good small forwards. If McVeigh or Welsh were to injure themselves during the match Slats would be handy to come off the bench for a defensive role.

 

[essendon]

Winderlich should never have been dropped, I'm all for this kid having a go and never gets much ground time, like Ricky last week. Pev may have a spell in the magoos after two ordinary performances, for Hille, well I reckon Bolts will be in. Hird for Ryder, which leave Bolts and Kep in the ruck
Outsider inclusion for the week: C.Dempesy

 

[Longy413]

I am conceding the ruck taps. My real concern is around the ground . I saw Carts against Werribee and not only did he get beaten in the ruck contests he was very ordinary around the ground. Street got a lot of the footy , Carts didnt and his positioning when he pushed back in defence was ordinary.Even when he was moved forward he just didnt look like his head was in the game. He had to be told several times to get in front and in the end he was benched again. At this stage he simply doesnt look like he has the confidence in his game that he had last season.
If we are nt going to win the taps we will need someone who can hurt them around the ground and with Ryder and Carts in combo that will not happen.

Fair call. I didn't see the game.

 

[Daytripper]

Why do we all believe Bradley would make a better ruckman than Cartledge for this week?

Bradley has never, ever been a ruckman. Not as a kid, not as a senior footballer. Cartledge has 3 years development into him, surely this is the reason we kept him on the list. He was handy against Collingwood last season and his pre-season game against Sydney looked very good as well.

He might not be ready, but he's not any less ready than Bradley. If we don't need Bradley down back, play him down forward and watch the Dogs have a crack at finding opponents for Lloyd, Lucas and Bradley while Hargrave is sitting in the stands.

Agree with Longy here.
Cartledge in - Bradley to ruck in the forward line and provide a floating target.
Bulldogs will have no-one to match up on him after they've dealt with Lloyd and Lucas.
Besides we really don't need him down back.

In : Cartledge, Hird, Winderlich
Out : Hille, Peverill, Slattery

With Slattery its just a case of team balance. We have the two Johnsons and Jobe already. Another slowish midfielder against the Dogs is not required.

Peverill is just out of form. Bring him back for those cold, wet days at the MCG.

I hope Sheedy read Hille the riot act for getting suspended this week. This is one week where he would have created enourmous problems for the Bulldogs and him being out could conceivably be the difference between us winning and losing.