Preview Changes for the Semi Final

[WaltzingMatera]

I didn't see the game so didn't see Gibbs injury but reading Carlton board many think that he will play. Is that accurate?

 

[Prem87]

Hurt his Shoulder - AC Joint, nothing structural so he should play with injections. Hopefully he starts on the HFF opposed to Beau Waters..

 

[lmach]

IN: Kerr, Rosa

OUT: Ebert, ???

 

[West Coast 06]

If Cox is not right to go, bring in a small, it is supposed to be raining all week with showers increasing on Saturday at this stage. Use Lynchy as back up to NicNat.

I would go with Ash Smith.

If Kerr is right to go then I think Ebert has to make way unfortunately.

 

[gsmiths_s]

Imagine the hate if Masten or Ebert or (insert player you dislike) had a game like Shuey did on the weekend. I'm not saying drop him, but if the other usual suspects got run down twice in the space of a couple of minutes... well this board would have exploded!

...

It was half our squads first final, we played terrible, yet still had a chance in the last quarter and only lost by 20 with a junk goal at the end.

Bring Kerr in if fit. Don't care who for.

 

[Faz 2000]

Obviously some big fitness queries... Cox and Gibbs' fitness pretty huge for either team's chances.

Was seriously pleased that Warnock looked the goods yesterday (thrashed Ryder and Hille on his own), because Cox/NicNat slaughtered us last time out. Blues might bring in Hampson and go Warnock/Hampson (assuming Kreuzer isn't right).

Blues will need a lot to go right, but I'm excited at the prospect of a free swing at the Eagles.

 

[Suma Magic]

What are people's thoughts on McGinnity coming into the 21?

I know most are keen, but how will we negate the prospect of having 8 defenders?

Should A. Selwood, Butler, Waters or Schofield be sub?
Should someone be dropped?
Move Waters forward?
Play McGinnity or A. Selwood in the midfield?

Because something has to give, and we can't have an 8 man defensive rotation.

 

[ziad]

Imagine the hate if Masten or Ebert or (insert player you dislike) had a game like Shuey did on the weekend. I'm not saying drop him, but if the other usual suspects got run down twice in the space of a couple of minutes... well this board would have exploded!

...

It was half our squads first final, we played terrible, yet still had a chance in the last quarter and only lost by 20 with a junk goal at the end.

Bring Kerr in if fit. Don't care who for.

Shuey, 18 posessions and 7 tackles as our No 1 attacking mid with the attention that draws. rates 6/10 on the AFL website and listin our best. At the ground that is a resonable call.

First final - all is fine.

 

[new breed]

Should Lycett be considered if Cox is out .

Lycett had a minor knee operation a month ago , would be handy on the bench to help Nic Nat . Lycett is fit to play !

Cox said this morning , he had scans and will know the result at training today , Coxy wont train till later in the week but is expecting and nearly certain he will play .

 

[Sammy J]

If Cox can't play, Lynch to 2nd ruck. Lycett is too green for a finals game.

In: Kerr
Out: Ebert

Unfortunate for Brad, but we need Kerr's clearance work, and Ebert becomes less necessary when Darling is playing.

Keep McGinnity as sub.

 

[bigQstick]

If Cox is injured:

In: Kerr, Rosa
Out: Cox, Ebert

Play Lynch 2nd in the ruck

 

[88mph]

How far off is Ash Smith?

 

[gsmiths_s]

Shuey, 18 posessions and 7 tackles as our No 1 attacking mid with the attention that draws. rates 6/10 on the AFL website and listin our best. At the ground that is a resonable call.

First final - all is fine.

Let me word this better:

If Ebert, Masten, Swift and co... had been caught out like Shuey did on Saturday, we would never hear the end of it. The other good things they did would be ignored for those isolated moments. As you rightly point out other then those 'run downs' Shuey was serviceable.

I'm just pointing out that the criticism of some players on here is crazy...

 

[Dark Sharks]

Let me word this better:

If Ebert, Masten, Swift and co... had been caught out like Shuey did on Saturday, we would never hear the end of it. The other good things they did would be ignored for those isolated moments. As you rightly point out other then those 'run downs' Shuey was serviceable.

I'm just pointing out that the criticism of some players on here is crazy...

Thats because that was the first "bad" game shuey has ever played. If it kept happening over a few games then yeah, obviously people are going to get upset by it.

But if it happened to Masten or Ebert who are constantly shit (excluding masten's last few games and the odd token game from ebert) then we would be calling for there heads. And rightfully so. God those run downs were bad...

Duh

 

[Suma Magic]

Has the club said anything about Rosa not playing on the weekend? In terms of suggesting that he wasn't fit or inferring that he may be considered this week?

 

[bigQstick]

Thats because that was the first "bad" game shuey has ever played. If it kept happening over a few games then yeah, obviously people are going to get upset by it.

But if it happened to Masten or Ebert who are constantly shit (excluding masten's last few games and the odd token game from ebert) then we would be calling for there heads. And rightfully so. God those run downs were bad...

Duh

Agreed about Shuey!!

But Masten is in a league above Ebert & Swift.

 

[Patron]

In: Kerr
Out: Ebert

Depends on availability of certain players really

Wouldn't mind Smith in the team this week. Would really like him on one of betts or garlett.
Mginnity an absolute must i think for this game given their pacey smalls.

 

[Bluey_McKenna]

If I were Chairman of Selectors:

Out: A. Selwood
In: McGinnity from sub

Out: Ebert to sub
In: Kerr

Selwood is surely getting a game on past performances only. His dropped chest mark is not getting enough scrutiny. This place would have gone into meltdown if McKenzie had spilt it. PMac is a better small defender.

Obviously the selectors won't have the balls to drop A Selwood. Hard to tell who goes out in that case. Hopefully not Cox.

I have a bad feeling about this game. I have been optimistic going into most of our games after the first half dozen rounds. This is not one of them.

 

[Patron]

If I were Chairman of Selectors:

Out: A. Selwood
In: McGinnity from sub

Out: Ebert to sub
In: Kerr

Selwood is surely getting a game on past performances only. His dropped chest mark is not getting enough scrutiny. This place would have gone into meltdown if McKenzie had spilt it. PMac is a better small defender.

Obviously the selectors won't have the balls to drop A Selwood. Hard to tell who goes out in that case. Hopefully not Cox.

I have a bad feeling about this game. I have been optimistic going into most of our games after the first half dozen rounds. This is not one of them.

Looks good to me. I don't like Ebert as the sub though and seeing as selwood won't be dropped even though he should be (would have smith ahead of him aswell easily) its going to have to be ebert dropped i reckon.

A selwood structurally causes us problems aswell i reckon. You can't have 3 or more players who have poor disposal in your back 6 its just too many trying to bring the ball out of defence and means you get bogged down in dangerous positions. Unfortunately for us both our KPD as good as they are have poor skills in glass and mckenzie. Add Waters to this as one of our rebounding defenders and it means we rely so heavily on butler and Hurn bringing the ball our of defence. Adding selwood as well just makes our disposal down back disgraceful.

 

[BlueandGoldforever]

Looks good to me. I don't like Ebert as the sub though and seeing as selwood won't be dropped even though he should be (would have smith ahead of him aswell easily) its going to have to be ebert dropped i reckon.

A selwood structurally causes us problems aswell i reckon. You can't have 3 or more players who have poor disposal in your back 6 its just too many trying to bring the ball out of defence and means you get bogged down in dangerous positions. Unfortunately for us both our KPD as good as they are have poor skills in glass and mckenzie. Add Waters to this as one of our rebounding defenders and it means we rely so heavily on butler and Hurn bringing the ball our of defence. Adding selwood as well just makes our disposal down back disgraceful.

I totally disagree with you. Glass' disposal is sound. When he has two or three players hanging off him it might not be that great - like most players - but he is reliable. Mckenzie too, is pretty sound. Sure, he made an error or two on Sunday but he played well. His disposal has improved enormously and he can kick on both sides of his body.

Waters is hit and miss but as long as he kicks down the line and on his left I can live with it because his hardness and contested footy is invaluable. As for A.Selwood, he is living on borrowed time.

 

[Patron]

Sound perhaps but they have no offensive capabilities. They have poor disposal they are just good at playing within their limits which is why they are good players.

 

[Prem87]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/10241770/cox-kerr-set-to-go-for-afls-eagles/

"West Coast vice-captain Beau Waters is confident ruckman Dean Cox and midfielder Daniel Kerr will be given the green light to take on Carlton in Saturday night's semi-final clash at Patersons Stadium.

West Coast could also recall speedy defender Ash Smith, who missed selection last week due to a minor hamstring injury."

 

[HoneyBadger35]

From Carlton's twitter account

"The season is over for @jarradwaite after it was decided today that he would enter hospital for hip surgery. More here: http://********/mj9i9"

 

[Patron]

From Carlton's twitter account

"The season is over for @jarradwaite after it was decided today that he would enter hospital for hip surgery. More here: http://********/mj9i9"

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/10241770/cox-kerr-set-to-go-for-afls-eagles/

"West Coast vice-captain Beau Waters is confident ruckman Dean Cox and midfielder Daniel Kerr will be given the green light to take on Carlton in Saturday night's semi-final clash at Patersons Stadium.

West Coast could also recall speedy defender Ash Smith, who missed selection last week due to a minor hamstring injury."

The above made me jizz my pants.

 

[idmfts]

I don't think Rosa will come in this week. But if we make it next week, I'd put him in.

So Kerr and Smith are the possible inclusions I think. Kerr is a cert, and Smith may come in for their pacy smalls.

In: Kerr, Smith
Out: Very tough calls. Ebert and probably Paddy Mac, but I'd rather A.Selwood but thats not going to happen.