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Coach Chris Scott and Jeremy Cameron's broken arm incident.

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Just to refresh my memory and I THINK the memory of others in this thread:

Wasn’t that incident where the injury in its full ‘glory’ for want of a better term, actually happened? He injured it in that accidental clash with Dangerfield but was essentially functional to what I could see albeit a bit compromised. Then he made that tackle and fell heavily on the already injured arm and immediately got up holding it like he’d either busted it, or his shoulder/collarbone
Ah potentially. I straight away thought he broke it after the Dangerfield collision but I don’t know if that’s when it happened. I definitely remember him being in more pain after the tackle but whether the break happened there, it became worse or something else we’ll probably not find out.
 
Ah potentially. I straight away thought he broke it after the Dangerfield collision but I don’t know if that’s when it happened. I definitely remember him being in more pain after the tackle but whether the break happened there, it became worse or something else we’ll probably not find out.
Dangerfield said he heard the bone snap when he bumped him, that's when it was broken.
 

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It’s a broken arm, not internal injuries. Not like his life was in danger.

Having said that, I don’t know what the hell was going on with Geelong - they seemed all at sea and unable to make decisions. They were a mess.

Everybody watching the game was saying his arm is broken… the impact and the way he was carrying it. They just sit on it with him off the ground for ages. Just be decisive, make the bloody sub and get on with it. He wasn’t impacting the game anyway.
Same thing happened in the prelim last year with Holmes. Complete paralysis in making the sub decision
 
I’d be questioning Scott if I were the Geelong board or the AFLPA. Playing a KPF with a broken arm is ridiculous.

Cameron wasn’t impacting the game with two arms let alone one and a possible concussion. Sad to watch because you could see he was battling.
Once it was broken he was always going to be in intense pain when he was tackled or hit in the arm in a marking contest.
 
Man how bad was Dangerfield?
Won the Leon Davis medal AND broke Jeremy Cameron's arm.
Best thing he did all day was leave the field to take a shit.

Apparently his speech was pretty good tho.
 
Didn’t read any of the previous replies but the bigger worry here for me is that he wasn’t immediately subbed for concussion. Cats do have history here, SDK received one of the biggest hits you will ever see to the back of the head last year from Lefau and they didn’t even assess him.
 
Didn’t read any of the previous replies but the bigger worry here for me is that he wasn’t immediately subbed for concussion. Cats do have history here, SDK received one of the biggest hits you will ever see to the back of the head last year from Lefau and they didn’t even assess him.
Stewart karma then.
 
Fair enough to have a broader discussion about how far individuals are willing to push themselves for a footy game but Cameron wasn’t alone

Plenty of footy folklore has been made off the backs of players suffering through injury to help achieve success
We need to celebrate the players that make the right calls for the team . In the 2023 grand final Nathan Murphy had received what we now know was a final career ending concussion . Yet he passed the concussion test and was cleared to return to the field , Murphy ruled himself out knowing he wasn't right . Cameron could have ruled himself out .
 

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I recall not long ago Chris Scott saying that the wellbeing of his players was number 1 priority and he wouldn't hesitate to bring player offif need be. Pretty poor look yesterday.

Scott literally said earlier this year on AFL 360 that he errs on the side of not playing players if there’s doubt. But this was the opposite and Cameron had clear symptoms of a fracture, sat off for 17 minutes, and they still didn’t sub him. You don’t need hindsight for this and that even went against his own "higher" standards that he purported to have.

Chris Scott’s 2025 AFL 360 Comments (Paraphrased):

“As time’s gone on, I’ve learned it’s better not to play players at all if there’s even a hint of concern about their fitness or health.”
 
No HIA for possible concussion was worse IMO.

Maybe Cameron’s concussion impacted his judgement about being able to play? We’ll never know since he want even tested.

It’s time we bring in independent AFL doctors to over rule coaches and team staff. There’s been countless HIA ignored by several teams and players being put on when it’s detrimental to players health (Cameron, Petracca notable examples).

Time to take the decisions out of the clubs hands and have someone independent able to over rule the team who are putting winning over player welfare.
 
Imagine being so shit at football you get subbed off the field instead of a guy with a broken arm and concussion lol.

Do you even bother going to Mad Monday, clearly you're not wanted anymore.
 
Same thing happened in the prelim last year with Holmes. Complete paralysis in making the sub decision

Pressure goes up in finals and again in grand finals.

Might be something they wanna look at in their coaches box because it was certainly an issue yesterday. Need to be decisive.

I thought starting Neale as sub was stupid personally but you have to hand it to the Lions, they clearly had a plan and stuck to it exactly by bringing him on at half time.
 
No HIA for possible concussion was worse IMO.

Maybe Cameron’s concussion impacted his judgement about being able to play? We’ll never know since he want even tested.

It’s time we bring in independent AFL doctors to over rule coaches and team staff. There’s been countless HIA ignored by several teams and players being put on when it’s detrimental to players health (Cameron, Petracca notable examples).

Time to take the decisions out of the clubs hands and have someone independent able to over rule the team who are putting winning over player welfare.

Having an independent doctor for head injuries is a necessity, but I don’t think they should be involved elsewhere, except for perhaps internal injuries.

Hypothetically, would an independent doctor let a player play on a grade 3 syndesmosis tear?
 

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It’s a broken arm, not internal injuries. Not like his life was in danger.

Having said that, I don’t know what the hell was going on with Geelong - they seemed all at sea and unable to make decisions. They were a mess.

Everybody watching the game was saying his arm is broken… the impact and the way he was carrying it. They just sit on it with him off the ground for ages. Just be decisive, make the bloody sub and get on with it. He wasn’t impacting the game anyway.

Collectively the whole team including coaching staff turned to water on the biggest stage of all, the biggest day of all in the AFL and when the stakes were at its highest and mattered most.

It happens to teams. Not the first and won't be the last.
 
Laughably stupid that they pretty much played a man down after that incident.

Cameron was stuffed, in a world of pain, and totally ineffective. Same as GAJ in 2020.

Their big egos hurt the team.

Rance trained hard to make the 2019 GF after his ACL repair, then decided to withdraw his name from consideration for the benefit of the team.

Reckon Cameron would look himself in the mirror this week and realise his big head got in the way of common sense and he owes his teammates.
 
Laughably stupid that they pretty much played a man down after that incident.

Cameron was stuffed, in a world of pain, and totally ineffective. Same as GAJ in 2020.

Their big egos hurt the team.

Rance trained hard to make the 2019 GF after his ACL repair, then decided to withdraw his name from consideration for the benefit of the team.

Reckon Cameron would look himself in the mirror this week and realise his big head got in the way of common sense and he owes his teammates.

Players will want to play. They’re competitive.

What you need is the coaches to be stronger than them and make the right decision.

But who knows. Maybe Cameron wasn’t insisting on playing. We don’t know.

But all in all, they stuffed it up and that’s on the coaches.
 
Laughably stupid that they pretty much played a man down after that incident.

Cameron was stuffed, in a world of pain, and totally ineffective. Same as GAJ in 2020.

Their big egos hurt the team.

Rance trained hard to make the 2019 GF after his ACL repair, then decided to withdraw his name from consideration for the benefit of the team.

Reckon Cameron would look himself in the mirror this week and realise his big head got in the way of common sense and he owes his teammates.

It's a bit different having all week to decide if you're fit, compared to mid-match with adrenalin pumping.

Rance lol.
 

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