clarke and his NSW mate

[Underarm]

Wade performed alright in West Indies, he was poor in England (as was everyone) and barely got a chance in Sri lanka. He didn't exactly shut any doors or put any space between him and Haddin.

Healy does have a point though, the circumstances were certainly not Ideal for the change over....

 

[toneG]

Yeah think Wade will hold his spot until Paine puts the pressure on him. Paine was a Future Test Captain when he injured his hand.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Wade has 74no in the current Shield game on a Gabba greentop to lift Victoria from 6/68 to 6/174 and first innings points. Think he stays the way I see it.

Siddle is 50no too.

 

[ROOTA#6]

Wade performed alright in West Indies, he was poor in England (as was everyone) and barely got a chance in Sri lanka. He didn't exactly shut any doors or put any space between him and Haddin.

Healy does have a point though, the circumstances were certainly not Ideal for the change over....

The circumstances that bought about the change were terrible obviously but the selectors should have made the call before that point in time

 

[the 5th wiggle]

does not sound like d.martyn and j.anderson got on well with clarky by reading the sydney papers.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Brad Haddin has no business in the Test side anymore, should do the obvious thing and retire from it and make a living off T20.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Herald sun basically reporting as fact that Haddin will not get picked.

 

[Hellgood]

Herald sun basically reporting as fact that Haddin will not get picked.

I hope they are right, but they generally aren't.

It's ridiculous that people like Tim Nielsen are sticking their heads up again saying it would be unfair for Haddin to not be recalled because it was a family issue. He was on the precipice of being dropped before that happened regardless. Wade came in and did a better job than what Haddin was doing and hence deserves to keep his spot. Even the case for Haddin in that he made a shield century get's cancelled out by the fact Wade made 90 against Queensland at the Gabba in early October.

 

[nicko6]

It's ridiculous that people like Tim Nielsen are sticking their heads up again saying it would be unfair for Haddin to not be recalled because it was a family issue. He was on the precipice of being dropped before that happened regardless. Wade came in and did a better job than what Haddin was doing and hence deserves to keep his spot. Even the case for Haddin in that he made a shield century get's cancelled out by the fact Wade made 90 against Queensland at the Gabba in early October.

It's a really difficult balancing act, isn't it? Your first choice keeper for five years (or so) has had a poor twelve months, and then has a legitimate family crisis that makes him unavailable to play, so he's replaced by the next in line - who does a serviceable job, but doesn't really make the position his own.
I would like to see Wade play as much international cricket as possible this summer. However, I will admit that although it pains me to say so - I could easily see the selectors picking Haddin as their test wicketkeeper. It may not be the best move, it may be motivated more by what he has done versus what he will do, but it's not something that I would rule out as the Australian selectors embody the mantra of "playing it safe."

 

[western royboy]

Wade has 74no in the current Shield game on a Gabba greentop to lift Victoria from 6/68 to 6/174 and first innings points. Think he stays the way I see it.

Siddle is 50no too.

Not to mention that fact that he led the averages 198 @ 39.6 including 1 century and was second in the runs in the West Indies series which was played on very difficult pitches.

It is a no brainer - I think they are just trying to be nice but most of NSW want Nevill to have the gloves in the Shield as well. I'm surprised that there is even debate to be honest.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

If the selectors do go for Wade as Ben Dorries is saying they will, I'll be impressed as that is quite a hard-arse call, considering the circumstances.

 

[western royboy]

If the selectors do go for Wade as Ben Dorries is saying they will, I'll be impressed as that is quite a hard-arse call, considering the circumstances.

It's a very sad situation and god bless it turns out ok for all involved. But that is really beside the point. Wade has the gloves and done a very good job, Haddin is/was on the way out anyway, it just brought things forward. It's a backward step to go back to Haddin.

 

[Heisenberg_]

It's a very sad situation and god bless it turns out ok for all involved. But that is really beside the point. Wade has the gloves and done a very good job, Haddin is/was on the way out anyway, it just brought things forward. It's a backward step to go back to Haddin.

Haddin should have been turfed last summer anyway, he shouldn't have been in the Caribbean to begin with.

 

[adamj1300au]

It's a really difficult balancing act, isn't it? Your first choice keeper for five years (or so) has had a poor twelve months, and then has a legitimate family crisis that makes him unavailable to play, so he's replaced by the next in line - who does a serviceable job, but doesn't really make the position his own.
I would like to see Wade play as much international cricket as possible this summer. However, I will admit that although it pains me to say so - I could easily see the selectors picking Haddin as their test wicketkeeper. It may not be the best move, it may be motivated more by what he has done versus what he will do, but it's not something that I would rule out as the Australian selectors embody the mantra of "playing it safe."

haddin was lucky to hold on to the spot for as long has he did. he is a dreadful keeper, and a wasteful batsman at best. we are not talking about grade, club or even state cricket, its the national side. the guy is 35 and should not even be in the minds of selectors, clarke or commentators, its a prime example of having good mates in nsw how far it gets you

 

[Carbine Chaos]

haddin was lucky to hold on to the spot for as long has he did. he is a dreadful keeper, and a wasteful batsman at best. we are not talking about grade, club or even state cricket, its the national side. the guy is 35 and should not even be in the minds of selectors, clarke or commentators, its a prime example of having good mates in nsw how far it gets you

I wouldn't describe Haddin as a dreadful keeper. I'd call him serviceable. And at best his batting is very good.

I know he hasn't been that great of late on the International stage but he's been a good player in the post-Gilly era.

 

[Ducky Tie]

I wouldn't describe Haddin as a dreadful keeper. I'd call him serviceable. And at best his batting is very good.

I know he hasn't been that great of late on the International stage but he's been a good player in the post-Gilly era.

Agree, he isn't great now but the treatment he cops here is rubbish. I certainly would prefer Wade to get the nod but the calls on Haddin over the last 12-18 months have been harsh.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Agree, he isn't great now but the treatment he cops here is rubbish. I certainly would prefer Wade to get the nod but the calls on Haddin over the last 12-18 months have been harsh.

Yep I'd go Wade now. But Haddin has been good for Australia, it's a shame he only gets crap instead of the credit he deserves. I mean, he stacks up against some good players very well just going by stats.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

Yep I'd go Wade now. But Haddin has been good for Australia, it's a shame he only gets crap instead of the credit he deserves. I mean, he stacks up against some good players very well just going by stats.

It's his inappropriate recklessness that has people fed up with him. I don't like seeing waste.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

The NSW boys club is in full swing at the moment

Steve Waugh thinks Haddin shoud make it as a batsman....

"So if Wade's the `keeper I don't see why Haddin can't play purely as a batsman. I think he's one of the top six batsmen in Australia anyway."

Spare me Steve, honestly

 

[frankrizzo]

Top 6 batsmen in the country.... christ tugga even for a known NSW cheerleader thats embarrassing.

 

[Hellgood]

The NSW boys club is in full swing at the moment

Steve Waugh thinks Haddin shoud make it as a batsman....



Spare me Steve, honestly

I know that we're not exactly brimming with in form batsmen at the moment, but that is just silly.

Clarke, Watson, Ponting, Hussey and Warner are (in order) the clear top 5.

Wade, Cowan and Bailey are three blokes in and around the test set up who are the next level of batsman.

Then you've got Quiney, Davis, Khawaja, S.Marsh, Hughes, Cosgrove and Smith at state level who I believe all have more to offer playing as a batsman than Haddin.

I don't hate Haddin, but clearly, his time at test level is up. He is a beautiful striker of the ball on his day and has the potential to make centuries batting at 7, yet in his recent matches has shown that that is happening far less often as he gets older and given our collapse troubles of late he simply wasn't up to the task of playing a responsible innings when we needed it.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I know that we're not exactly brimming with in form batsmen at the moment, but that is just silly.

I'd rather Phil Hughes at 6 than Haddin.

I'm not a Haddin hater - all you can ask is that a player gets the best out of themselves - and from all reports Haddin is extremely dedicated.

However he isn't a competent keeper - so I don't see how he can be a test wicketkeeper.

And his batting, whilst more than adequate as a keeper, isn't within a bulls roar of Gilchrist who was a top 6 batsman. I'd rather someone like Joe Burns if we were wanting an up and comer or a Rob Quiney if it was someone more seasoned. Hell, throw in Liam Davis

 

[ROOTA#6]

The NSW boys club is in full swing at the moment

Steve Waugh thinks Haddin shoud make it as a batsman....



Spare me Steve, honestly

Let's all hope Steve Waugh never becomes a selector

 

[adamj1300au]

Let's all hope Steve Waugh never becomes a selector

and questions are asked why Australia hasn't been a top side for years!

 

[peternorth]

Top 6 batsmen in the country.... christ tugga even for a known NSW cheerleader thats embarrassing.

its getting increasingly difficult for former players to pass judgement, with everything being reported within an instant and published worldwide.. they're mates with a lot of players, and dont want to offend them. journo shouldve asked him for his test lineup. tugga wouldnt have given it cause it wouldve meant dropping one of the batsman (likely).