Analysis Cockburn vs Freo - Should we move back

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anchor man

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Nope. Not true. There was no benefit from what FCC offered vs what other clubs have in terms of facilities and training ground.
Another was board members/general members of South Fremantle blocking any move possible. Had Fremantle FC lucrative handout to the WAFL been accepted then Bulldogs would’ve shared facilities with East Fremantl. That would’ve allowed Fremantle redevelop the crumbling change room/club room blocking redevelopments.
Cannot have two clubs sharing one oval at loggerheads.
Have to say, am very jealous of Perth Demons and West Coast. Managed to find harmony, and look at the grounds/facilities now. If only
Harmony!!! you really are kidding aren't you. The Yellas screwed the Demons and then walked out and left them in a mess.
Ask a Demons supporter if they are happy.
And do you mean South move the the cracked aquarium!!!! That was never ever mentioned. You are pulling hairs from your rectum.
 

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So is the story?
FCC wouldn’t or couldn’t afford to help with the facility/ oval upgrade, and CCC was willing to splurge and offered FFC new facilities and ovals to move out that way?

PS. Anyone get any training notes
 

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So is the story?
FCC wouldn’t or couldn’t afford to help with the facility/ oval upgrade, and CCC was willing to splurge and offered FFC new facilities and ovals to move out that way?

PS. Anyone get any training notes

Rosich managed to get a few more $$ out of Cockburn. That's about it. Very short sighted move and will cost more in the long-run.

I've been through the entire new Dockers facility, it's not really that flash, it's just new.
 

anchor man

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Rosich managed to get a few more $$ out of Cockburn. That's about it. Very short sighted move and will cost more in the long-run.

I've been through the entire new Dockers facility, it's not really that flash, it's just new.
He also got money from the State gov and the Federal Gov.

Why not just accept that what we have is ten times better than what we would have had in Fremantle.
 

anchor man

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How ridiculous does he look having to spin his sleeves to have the Sullivan Logistics logo showing!!
PSSST, lend me you ear, come closer. Shhh don't tell anyone.
It is called advertising. Advertising keeps the club afloat. But don't tell any one.Ok!
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pK75

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Gee, I could have sworn when I was at Fremantle Oval on Saturday, that there was no Fremantle facility there.
We have no idea just what the facility would have looked like.
So how do you know what we have is 10 times better? Stupid statements require rebuttal.

edit: at the time there was a planned redevelopment at Freo oval and it looked every bit as good as cockburn.
 

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Cheers!
Wonder if this goes ahead would the club return?
I don’t see the problem of training at both Cockburn and Fremantle oval.
Could also train at the newest redesign, Shark Park.
It’s done now, move on. Cockburn has great parking and is situated in a massive southern growth zone.
If the redevelopment of Fremantle oval goes ahead we could also play pre-season games.
Freo girls having the oval to themselves has also grown the game.
 

Fred Ziffel

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Please name a single hurdle. Just one.

The demand was made that the entire facility was net zero energy consumer. Zero carbon ******* footprint by using 100 % renewable energy.
No such condition was or is placed on any other building in Fremantle.
The building Had area limits placed on it and so fined to the southern area of the ground; pretty much precisely where it was. This had huge implications for any future expansion.

The council did not want the club there and hindered the club where they could , as listed above.
 

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The demand was made that the entire facility was net zero energy consumer. Zero carbon ******* footprint by using 100 % renewable energy.
No such condition was or is placed on any other building in Fremantle.
The building Had area limits placed on it and so fined to the southern area of the ground; pretty much precisely where it was. This had huge implications for any future expansion.

The council did not want the club there and hindered the club where they could , as listed above.
That’s the thing. Expansion has to have plans to either a) close Parry st north at Holdsworth or High st and at Norsfolk, to allow pedestrian access to the Oval as well as link to Markets. Or b) demolish the grandstand Gaol side and allow facilities all the way around connecting to the existing facilities which was already in place hospital end.
Council would never be that far sighted. South’s have too much to say, and that heritage stand, as much as it is iconic, is an eye sore.
Arden St in North Melbourne has moved forward and so has Punt Road at Richmond.
Too much shortsighted traditionalists involved here.
At least in Cockburn, the club is in charge of the development and have room to expand and develop with the council.
 

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That’s the thing. Expansion has to have plans to either a) close Parry st north at Holdsworth or High st and at Norsfolk, to allow pedestrian access to the Oval as well as link to Markets. Or b) demolish the grandstand Gaol side and allow facilities all the way around connecting to the existing facilities which was already in place hospital end.
Council would never be that far sighted. South’s have too much to say, and that heritage stand, as much as it is iconic, is an eye sore.
Arden St in North Melbourne has moved forward and so has Punt Road at Richmond.
Too much shortsighted traditionalists involved here.
At least in Cockburn, the club is in charge of the development and have room to expand and develop with the council.

How much space do you really think was needed?

Cockburn ARC is huge but only a small portion is FFC.

The expansion story is a myth.
 

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How much space do you really think was needed?

Cockburn ARC is huge but only a small portion is FFC.

The expansion story is a myth.
(Apologies to stay with this diversion for one more moment, just a point of logic I can't leave...) I think you may be getting a little confused here. The expansion story isn't really refuted by the proportion of FFC to the ARC. The "expansion" is relevant to the current size of the FFC space to the available (/affordable) space at Freo Oval.
 

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It seems to me we have a good middle ground at the moment, modern facilities with a high level of control that came without an unreasonable amount of debt.
We have increased our presence in Fremantle so we keep our home links as a bit of a compromise.

If we'd kept trying to push the Fremantle Oval redevelopment it probably still wouldn't be finished, and our financial position would be worse.
Hopefully longer term we can land a redevelopment that brings us back but still gives us good facilities without a heavy burden, while Cockburn is left with great community facilities.
 

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Idc where they train, as long as they train in Freo if they make finals. I remember the old 2013 days when some classes in our high school would go down to watch Fremantle train during grand final time.
 

anchor man

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Once City of Fremantle manage to construct something of similar quality at Freo Oval then we can go back then. Not before then though.
Our base is now in Cockburn, not Fremantle. I t would take a major major change for us to return to Fremantle Oval.
We are Cockburn residents now.
 

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