List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Ladhams, Liam Jones

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Liam Jones

Age

34

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

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Gee whiz.

The reality of Tom Berry and Oskar Smartt isn't much better.

Going to be a long offseason.

 

[bzparkes]

Isn't he a massive duckhead?

Nope everyone loves him at the swans .
A lad and the ultimate team man

I did hear he makes a goose of himself sometimes though.

 

[Dale Doback]

I'd rather we hold the picks, take the best midfield prospects available and work with what we have on the list. We aren't challenging for a flag in the next 3 years so just go for the talent rather than trade picks for B to C graders like Robertson.

 

[ThePuma #9]

I'd rather we hold the picks, take the best midfield prospects available and work with what we have on the list. We aren't challenging for a flag in the next 3 years so just go for the talent rather than trade picks for B to C graders like Robertson.

Dev is not going to cost very much at the trade table. Late 3rd rounder should suffice.

Lions can’t ask for much considering they re-signed him for two years last time only for the poor kid to waste away in the VFL unless they wanted to use him a a sub occasionally.

6 games in two years says it all. You’d almost hope they feel for him and just accomodate a move to a club where he might get to play.

He will provide a hell of a lot more than another young kid at the speculative point of the draft in a very week draft pool.

 

[Dale Doback]

The only real trade for a top shelf mid I'd entertain would be for Warner in a 3 way trade with pick 1 to Carlton, Curnow to Sydney and Warner to us. Warner is 26 in May, would be sensational alongside Harley at centre bounce for the next 3 seasons.

 

[Dale Doback]

Dev is not going to cost very much at the trade table. Late 3rd rounder should suffice.

Lions can’t ask for much considering they re-signed him for two years last time only for the poor kid to waste away in the VFL unless they wanted to use him a a sub occasionally.

6 games in two years says it all. You’d almost hope they feel for him and just accomodate a move to a club where he might get to play.

He will provide a hell of a lot more than another young kid at the speculative point of the draft in a very week draft pool.

I'd rather invest his midfield minutes into Bo Allen. With his burst speed and size he could develop rapidly. If we get a full uninterrupted preseason into him he'll be big for us in 26.

 

[Mr Q]

Dev is not going to cost very much at the trade table. Late 3rd rounder should suffice.

He's not going to cost anything. If we want him, and he wants us, then either he'll be thrown in as steak knives on any Starcevich deal, or he'll end up with us as a DFA.

 

[Tugga27]

Absolutely. He may play 100 games. He may unfortunately play 0. Not one person would say his concussion history isn’t a concern. But in our position, with the salary cap floor being struggling to be met. With a young squad needing leaders/quality experience, it is a risk worth taking.

Provided there are enough protections, if he gets paid out early so be it. Who else is coming at this point in time? If he was vying with a group of potential recruits, I would be more hesitant but in our current position, we take what we can get. And if someone of his calibre is willing to leave the back to back premiers and perennial finalists for our win club, then he is more than welcome.

Liam Jones and Dev Robertson apparently.

 

[Tugga27]

Liam Jones out of contract

Position of need

Injury and concussion prone

No brainer

Yep

Let's keep picking guys who can't get a game at other clubs.
It's worked really well for us before

 

[WCE777]

Dev is not going to cost very much at the trade table. Late 3rd rounder should suffice.

Lions can’t ask for much considering they re-signed him for two years last time only for the poor kid to waste away in the VFL unless they wanted to use him a a sub occasionally.

6 games in two years says it all. You’d almost hope they feel for him and just accomodate a move to a club where he might get to play.

He will provide a hell of a lot more than another young kid at the speculative point of the draft in a very week draft pool.

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We may end up with Starcevich, Butler, T Young, Dev and that might be it.
We might be in a 50/50 race with ADE for Ah Chee if they go all chips in on Petracca and can't afford him.

We have asked every question to anyone by the looks and these are the highest probability for low draft capital involved.
If we miss 1 or 2 then we get aggressive with the list that wooshaaa put up earlier and be flexible.

This is going to be a massive trade period with players like Petracca, Curnow, Merrett and others demanding large draft capital to move.

We just need to be in the conversations for the fallout/draft picks needed to make some clubs ambitions to get A grade players and we get to pick up the players that need to be moved on to help facilitate them.

We all see the trade scenarios that may or may not play out and some clubs are highly ambitious with not much to work with, so we just need to be in the ears of the list mentioned with hopefully gaining 1 or 2.

Davies, Steele, McKenzie, Boxshall and co.

 

[Dale Doback]

Dev is not going to cost very much at the trade table. Late 3rd rounder should suffice.

Lions can’t ask for much considering they re-signed him for two years last time only for the poor kid to waste away in the VFL unless they wanted to use him a a sub occasionally.

6 games in two years says it all. You’d almost hope they feel for him and just accomodate a move to a club where he might get to play.

He will provide a hell of a lot more than another young kid at the speculative point of the draft in a very week draft pool.

Dev was overlooked by Brisbane for 19 year old pick 25 Sam Marshall for the finals for a reason. He's not good enough.

 

[rebel23]

Yep

Let's keep picking guys who can't get a game at other clubs.
It's worked really well for us before

Was a joke mate

 

[Tugga27]

Was a joke mate

it's hard to tell these days.

People wanting Dev over Warner and Starcevich.

 

[Tugga27]

Dev was overlooked by Brisbane for 19 year old pick 25 Sam Marshall for the finals for a reason. He's not good enough.

Yep

Couldn't get in their GF squad despite having a lot of injuries.

 

[rebel23]

it's hard to tell these days.

People wanting Dev over Warner and Starcevich.

Warner unattainable so no point talking about it.

Given the circumstances Dev over starcevich is a smart play.

At least we will be starting the relationship between the club and the player on a positive (neutral) stance instead of eggshells

 

[Tugga27]

Warner unattainable so no point talking about it.

Given the circumstances Dev over starcevich is a smart play.

At least we will be starting the relationship between the club and the player on a positive (neutral) stance instead of eggshells

A lot of People on here didn't want Warner because he's either a downhill skier, too expensive or we can get him for free in 2 years.

Dev over Starcevich is a dumb play.
I'd rather risk some coin on someone who can actually play than on someone who can't get a game.

 

[rebel23]

A lot of People on here didn't want Warner because he's either a downhill skier, too expensive or we can get him for free in 2 years.

Dev over Starcevich is a dumb play.
I'd rather risk some coin on someone who can actually play than on someone who can't get a game.

I have no comment on the Warner situation because he's way off limits atm

Disagree with the starcevich dev thing though.

Let's even say that all things were equal( and starce wasn't a walking concussion).. there is literally no one in the league who would pay the reported salary for a player like starcevich... Big Bucks go to super mids and fowards. . Adding in our already strong lock down types Ginbey Hough Yeo..

Defensive mid is like our biggest weakness. And dev is no scrub. He's just unluckily behind Dunkley in that role... He'd be cheaper and if willing to come it would be a good addition.

 

[bzparkes]

there is literally no one in the league who would pay the reported salary for a player like starcevich...

You say that but Collingwood went and did exactly that for Houston and Perryman.

 

[Tugga27]

I have no comment on the Warner situation because he's way off limits atm

Disagree with the starcevich dev thing though.

Let's even say that all things were equal( and starce wasn't a walking concussion).. there is literally no one in the league who would pay the reported salary for a player like starcevich... Big Bucks go to super mids and fowards. . Adding in our already strong lock down types Ginbey Hough Yeo..

Defensive mid is like our biggest weakness. And dev is no scrub. He's just unluckily behind Dunkley in that role... He'd be cheaper and if willing to come it would be a good addition.

If the price of $900 000 which has been quoted is correct, that's probably $200 000 overs.
You have to pay overs to get players to move, especially to us.

Harry Perryman went to Collingwood for $900 000.
TDK went for 1.8 million.

Why would he leave Brisbane if it was on the same money?

"Dev is no scrub".
Seriously?

He's a poor kick and a poor decision maker.
Do you think if he was any good at all he would get delisted?

 

[Tugga27]

You say that but Collingwood went and did exactly that for Houston and Perryman.

Houston is a dual AA.

Perryman on the other hand.

 

[rebel23]

You say that but Collingwood went and did exactly that for Houston and Perryman.

Was that a smart move in your opinion

You have to pay overs to get players to move, especially to us.

"Dev is no scrub".
Seriously?

He's a poor kick and a poor decision maker.
Do you think if he was any good at all he would get delisted?

Or you could not pay them to move.
Dev made VFL team of the year which shows that he deserves a spot on an AFL list somewhere.

No superstar but would make us better as he's better than clay hall gross dewar Allan... Bout the same as Graham

 

[Tugga27]

Was that a smart move in your opinion

Or you could not pay them to move.
Dev made VFL team of the year which shows that he deserves a spot on an AFL list somewhere.

No superstar but would make us better as he's better than clay hall gross dewar Allan... Bout the same as Graham

Just pointing out that a $900 000 salary is not that big anymore.

FMD mate, he's not better than anyone one of those players IMO.

Comparing him to Jack Graham who has come second in a Best and fairest and polled in the Norm Smith medal

 

[bzparkes]

Was that a smart move in your opinion

The Houston pickup, despite how bad he was this year, was the right choice. They needed run off half back once Daicos bros moved into the midfield.

Ironically, noble would've fit that role perfectly this season.

I have no idea why they went for Perryman. Pretty mediocre player to begin with.

 

[rebel23]

The Houston pickup, despite how bad he was this year, was the right choice. They needed run off half back once Daicos bros moved into the midfield.

Ironically, noble would've fit that role perfectly this season.

I have no idea why they went for Perryman. Pretty mediocre player to begin with.

Yet both Houston and Perryman were perceived to be more versatile positionally and offensively to starcevich.. probably why Collingwood were willing to cough up cash

Agree on Noble

 

[rebel23]

FMD mate, he's not better than anyone one of those players IMO.

Comparing him to Jack Graham who has come second is a Best and fairest

Not a very high bar unfortunately... We are and have been sooo rubbish