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List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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Elite Pete said:
The reason I doubt you’d do Yeo due to 2 year contracts is because you’re on the hook for the money and probably around $1.4m, watching him run around for another team while you pay that would be very Eagles.
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My understanding is that the new club has to take on his contract if they draft him in the main/rookie draft

We wouldn’t have to pay him anything
 
So assuming chess and Ryan do indeed leave on top of Allen, that leaves us 7 list spots.

I suspect get 3 guys in via trade:

Starcevech, young and one of butler (plan a) or dev (plan b)

That leaves 4 list spots, I think we will attempt to get one if the picks upgraded and take 4 picks in rnd 1.

But we also need more list spots to potentially match bids for Evans, banfield and Williams (I suspect if wallet doesn’t make it to cat b we let him go).

So effectively we still need to create 3 main list spots.

HJ, Barnett are likely candidates to be moved to rookie list. Maybe Bazzo to? Not sure on the rules if he just re-signed. Cripps a maybe too but I think that less likely.
 
thewest.com.au

Pyke hints at Eagles draft plan after AFL aid package

West Coast chief executive Don Pyke has not ruled out packaging picks to improve their draft hand following the AFL handing down an assistance package to the beleaguered club.
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Have copy and pasted the article below, nice to hear someone involved with the club confirm we will look at trading up - I know that seemed obvious of course but it’s just nice to have that confirmed.

Also like the last bit about Starcevich, hopefully we don’t hand over that end of first for him after that last head knock.

West Coast CEO Don Pyke says Eagles will explore moving up the draft after AFL grants assitance package​

West Coast chief executive Don Pyke has not ruled out packaging picks to improve their draft hand following the AFL handing down an assistance package to the beleaguered club.
The AFL confirmed the package on Tuesday, with the Eagles to receive an end-of-first-round selection — currently pick 19 — as well as four additional rookie list spots per year over the next three seasons.
The Eagles now have pick 1 at November’s draft and are set to be handed pick 2 for departing captain Oscar Allen, as well as owning picks 15 (tied to Hawthorn), 19, 20, 33 and 51.
With selections 15 onwards expected to slide back due to academy and father-son considerations, Pyke said the opportunity is there to strengthen their draft hand even further.
“Clearly, the opportunity with the change to the points system is that we can maybe do something to get ourselves further up the draft,” he said on ABC.
“You’ve got Tasmania coming in in the next two seasons, potentially from a draft perspective, so if you’re trading future picks, you have to assess if you’re trading into a weaker or stronger draft.
“We’re trying to do two things at once: bring some high-end young talent and some experienced guys to help those guys develop.”

Pyke conceded they have to execute this year’s trade period with close to perfection to get themselves out of the hole they dug for themselves.
“It’s important, it’s always important because the reality is you get one chance a year to reshape your list, the future of the club is set during these periods,” he said.
“The harsh reality is we are when we are, and the assistance allows us to head back to the draft and the rookie draft and build our squad to compete.
“Not only our AFL team but our WAFL team has really struggled, and that just makes it harder and harder to develop, so we have to bolster our total squad.
“We’ve got an opportunity to execute a smart strategy and bounce back quickly.”
He also said the Eagles will continue to splash the cash where they can off the field to improve every aspect of the club.

“We pay over the soft cap as it is, and we’ll continue to pay over the cap because we want to invest in our progress to get the best outcomes,” he said.
“We understand we found ourselves in this situation, but we’re happy to spend our money to get out of it, obviously, within the rules.”
Pyke also revealed the club maintains a strong interest in two-time premiership Lion Brandon Starcevich despite his latest concussion setback.
“I won’t get into the specifics of it but Brandon is a guy we identified from a way out that can tick a lot of boxes for us,” he said.

“He did receive another head knock, and we’re mindful of all the issues at play there, and we’ll be in discussions with Brisbane around that.”
He also hasn’t given up hope on swooping in for Melbourne’s Judd McVee despite the wantaway Demon choosing Fremantle as his preferred destination.
“We’ll continue down that, and with our draft hand I think we’re in a reasonable position to get something done.”
 
TerryFilk said:
thewest.com.au

Pyke hints at Eagles draft plan after AFL aid package

West Coast chief executive Don Pyke has not ruled out packaging picks to improve their draft hand following the AFL handing down an assistance package to the beleaguered club.
thewest.com.au thewest.com.au

Have copy and pasted the article below, nice to hear someone involved with the club confirm we will look at trading up - I know that seemed obvious of course but it’s just nice to have that confirmed.

Also like the last bit about Starcevich, hopefully we don’t hand over that end of first for him after that last head knock.

West Coast CEO Don Pyke says Eagles will explore moving up the draft after AFL grants assitance package​

West Coast chief executive Don Pyke has not ruled out packaging picks to improve their draft hand following the AFL handing down an assistance package to the beleaguered club.
The AFL confirmed the package on Tuesday, with the Eagles to receive an end-of-first-round selection — currently pick 19 — as well as four additional rookie list spots per year over the next three seasons.
The Eagles now have pick 1 at November’s draft and are set to be handed pick 2 for departing captain Oscar Allen, as well as owning picks 15 (tied to Hawthorn), 19, 20, 33 and 51.
With selections 15 onwards expected to slide back due to academy and father-son considerations, Pyke said the opportunity is there to strengthen their draft hand even further.
“Clearly, the opportunity with the change to the points system is that we can maybe do something to get ourselves further up the draft,” he said on ABC.
“You’ve got Tasmania coming in in the next two seasons, potentially from a draft perspective, so if you’re trading future picks, you have to assess if you’re trading into a weaker or stronger draft.
“We’re trying to do two things at once: bring some high-end young talent and some experienced guys to help those guys develop.”

Pyke conceded they have to execute this year’s trade period with close to perfection to get themselves out of the hole they dug for themselves.
“It’s important, it’s always important because the reality is you get one chance a year to reshape your list, the future of the club is set during these periods,” he said.
“The harsh reality is we are when we are, and the assistance allows us to head back to the draft and the rookie draft and build our squad to compete.
“Not only our AFL team but our WAFL team has really struggled, and that just makes it harder and harder to develop, so we have to bolster our total squad.
“We’ve got an opportunity to execute a smart strategy and bounce back quickly.”
He also said the Eagles will continue to splash the cash where they can off the field to improve every aspect of the club.

“We pay over the soft cap as it is, and we’ll continue to pay over the cap because we want to invest in our progress to get the best outcomes,” he said.
“We understand we found ourselves in this situation, but we’re happy to spend our money to get out of it, obviously, within the rules.”
Pyke also revealed the club maintains a strong interest in two-time premiership Lion Brandon Starcevich despite his latest concussion setback.
“I won’t get into the specifics of it but Brandon is a guy we identified from a way out that can tick a lot of boxes for us,” he said.

“He did receive another head knock, and we’re mindful of all the issues at play there, and we’ll be in discussions with Brisbane around that.”
He also hasn’t given up hope on swooping in for Melbourne’s Judd McVee despite the wantaway Demon choosing Fremantle as his preferred destination.
“We’ll continue down that, and with our draft hand I think we’re in a reasonable position to get something done.”
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I must say its refreshing to hear a little about our strategy, even if Pyke wont be revealing much.
He and the list management have clearly identified draftees, trade targets and a list strategy to get better as fast as we can.
Not afraid to attack the trade market and use our cap space to get players.
I would also read between the lines that any trade target not able to get to their preferred destination eg. Ah Chee/McVee then we would be happy to have discussions.
Look forward to moving assets/picks up the draft order and using all our draft capital to acquire our desired draftees.
 

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Pyke on ABC tonight again spoke about possibility of splitting pick 2 as a option (Along with packaging up to go up the draft order). I think this was an interesting point as he has eluded to splitting this pick in another interview as well. Worsfold also said in the abc interview that eagles want young top talent but don't just want to get younger. I wonder if there is going to be a play were Curnow to gold coast, Jed walter to eagles and pick 2 involved going to carlton. whether other picks are involved i dont know but carlton get a cooper duff tyler maybe and eagles get another young talent a little bit older. that is speculation.

Pyke also spoke at looking at talent from vfl for filling rookie list spots so the Tom Blamires story is timely.
 
ACT_EAGLE said:
Pyke on ABC tonight again spoke about possibility of splitting pick 2 as a option (Along with packaging up to go up the draft order). I think this was an interesting point as he has eluded to splitting this pick in another interview as well. Worsfold also said in the abc interview that eagles want young top talent but don't just want to get younger. I wonder if there is going to be a play were Curnow to gold coast, Jed walter to eagles and pick 2 involved going to carlton. whether other picks are involved i dont know but carlton get a cooper duff tyler maybe and eagles get another young talent a little bit older. that is speculation.

Pyke also spoke at looking at talent from vfl for filling rookie list spots so the Tom Blamires story is timely.
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Anyone have a link?
 
Elite Pete said:
The reason I doubt you’d do Yeo due to 2 year contracts is because you’re on the hook for the money and probably around $1.4m, watching him run around for another team while you pay that would be very Eagles.
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I'm reasonably sure any delisted player who nominates for the drafts can nominate a required salary - so he'd just nominate his Eagles salary and dare other clubs to pay it.

Only newly listed players have default salaries.

(Edit: this whole process would require the player's buy in)
 
ThePuma #9 said:
Pick 1 West Coast bid on Zeke Uwland (GC match)

Pick 2 West Coast bid on Dylan Patterson (GC match)

Wave goodbye to about 10 picks in the process.


We don’t owe GC shit, it’s in our best interest to burn as many picks in this draft as we can.

Oh and if Lions are muppets too and don’t look after us with Starcevich then bid on Annable too.

We don’t need pick 1 for marketing, we’re still getting the same players so who gives a shit if they are pick 1 or pick 4.
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I like the cut of your jib! This is exactly what we should be doing, who cares about the Nepos feelings, they are opposition/rivals. Do everything in our power to make them weaker and us stronger improving our picks at the same time. Like Geelong did with Kelly refusing to trade to make a potential opposition contender stronger
 
Woobla Stainz said:
I like the cut of your jib! This is exactly what we should be doing, who cares about the Nepos feelings, they are opposition/rivals. Do everything in our power to make them weaker and us stronger improving our picks at the same time. Like Geelong did with Kelly refusing to trade to make a potential opposition contender stronger
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I agree, Nice guys come last. At this point in time the club should be a lot more ruthless in getting desired out comes.
 
Jootube said:
That's a phantom draft, not a power ranking. He is guessing where players are picked, not ranking them on talent.
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Reasonably unlikely that the number 1 pick wouldnt be the best predicted player outside of NGA/Father-Son picks so probably irrelevant with the first over all pick right? Because (as this whole diatribe started) generally at the top end its better to take best available as opposed to position of need.
 
So they are still chasing McVee even though he nominated Fremantle. Pyke is obviously planning to make a better offer to Melbourne. Freo have done this to us too in the past. But i think there should be an understanding between the two clubs that once a player has nominated the other club steps away. All they do is end up bidding up the trade price of players coming back to WA. It would be in the longer term interests of both clubs to not be bidding against each other.
 
Elite Pete said:
The reason I doubt you’d do Yeo due to 2 year contracts is because you’re on the hook for the money and probably around $1.4m, watching him run around for another team while you pay that would be very Eagles.
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If another team snipes him in the rookie draft they have to take on his contract.

I would be more worried if we delisted yeo he just wouldn't nominate for the rookie draft and pocket the cash .

Their are much less risky options to rookie
 
EagleMutt said:
With the no prelisting of the ngas, how will this work at the draft? Are we gonna keep a bunch of 3rd or 4th rd picks in case they are bid on or hope they are not bid on and make it to rookie list?
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Just need to keep enough main list spots ipen just in case.

The bids will come in the mid to late 2nd at the worst and after discounts wont cost much at all.

So we keep a singoe 3rd rounder just in case plus open list spots.
 

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ACT_EAGLE said:
Pyke on ABC tonight again spoke about possibility of splitting pick 2 as a option (Along with packaging up to go up the draft order). I think this was an interesting point as he has eluded to splitting this pick in another interview as well. Worsfold also said in the abc interview that eagles want young top talent but don't just want to get younger. I wonder if there is going to be a play were Curnow to gold coast, Jed walter to eagles and pick 2 involved going to carlton. whether other picks are involved i dont know but carlton get a cooper duff tyler maybe and eagles get another young talent a little bit older. that is speculation.

Pyke also spoke at looking at talent from vfl for filling rookie list spots so the Tom Blamires story is timely.
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Xavier O'Neil redemption arc incoming
 
ThePuma #9 said:
Pick 1 West Coast bid on Zeke Uwland (GC match)

We don’t need pick 1 for marketing, we’re still getting the same players so who gives a shit if they are pick 1 or pick 4.
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As much as I like this idea, I feel like it rarely actually happens. Clubs tend to not want to bid at pick 1, even when they know for a fact there's club tied players and the opposing team will 100% match.


2020 - Adelaide bids on JUH at pick 1, bulldogs match using 4 packets of twisties.

2021 - North take JHF and don't bid on Daicos or Darcy, GWS bid on Darcy at pick 2, GCS bid on Daicos at pick 4.

2022 - North bizarrely take Cadman at 1 before bidding on Will Ashcroft with 2

2024 - Richmond take Lalor at 1, nobody bids on Levi Ashcroft until Melbourne at 5.

Seems to me they always get attached to their player and want to make him feel warm and fuzzy so they skip the bid and select him instead, for the bonus and acclaim. North with Cadman in particular.

I expect we'll end up doing the same.
 

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Dark Sharks said:
As much as I like this idea, I feel like it rarely actually happens. Clubs tend to not want to bid at pick 1, even when they know for a fact there's club tied players and the opposing team will 100% match.


2020 - Adelaide bids on JUH at pick 1, bulldogs match using 4 packets of twisties.

2021 - North take JHF and don't bid on Daicos or Darcy, GWS bid on Darcy at pick 2, GCS bid on Daicos at pick 4.

2022 - North bizarrely take Cadman at 1 before bidding on Will Ashcroft with 2

2024 - Richmond take Lalor at 1, nobody bids on Levi Ashcroft until Melbourne at 5.

Seems to me they always get attached to their player and want to make him feel warm and fuzzy so they skip the bid and select him instead, for the bonus and acclaim. North with Cadman in particular.

I expect we'll end up doing the same.
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GWS had pick 1 and took Cadman that year, not North.
 
Dark Sharks said:
Ahhh yes good call. Replace North with GWS in that instance.

Point is I don't think clubs with top selections run around intentionally trying to soak up oppositions picks by bidding on players.

They should, to make the Academy teams pay fair price and all, but they don't.
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Agree with that sentiment.

I also cringe when people add "and we promise not to bid on their players" in trade negotiations. Not allowed is my understanding and doesn't happen.

Pick 1 and bidding can be tricky though. By bidding knowing the connected club will match will cost your own player money. Now, for Thilthorpe that was probably fine, as he is a local die hard Crows fan. But GWS probably wanted to get off on the right foot with Cadman (and us with Harley).
 
Hasselhough said:
One of my biggest concerns is we are going around again with the Flynn/Bwilliams ruck combo .

Hard to win the midfield contest when you have the worst tap rucks that also contribute very when the ball hits the deck or around the ground
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I'm bullish on Flynn. He's only played 55 matches, that's supposed to be the sweet spot for players taking their game to the next level. With a big pre season with the new S&C coach from Freo, and some more midfield support, he could still turn out to be a serviceable ruck.
 
Big_Birdy said:
Agree with that sentiment.

I also cringe when people add "and we promise not to bid on their players" in trade negotiations. Not allowed is my understanding and doesn't happen.

Pick 1 and bidding can be tricky though. By bidding knowing the connected club will match will cost your own player money. Now, for Thilthorpe that was probably fine, as he is a local die hard Crows fan. But GWS probably wanted to get off on the right foot with Cadman (and us with Harley).
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Imagine if WB hadn’t/couldn’t match the bid and Crows ended up with JUH instead of Thilthorpe.

Thilthorpe goes to the Roos instead of Will Phillips. Or they overlook him and get Phillips anyway and TT heads to Sydney instead of Logan McDonald.
 
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