List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Dom sheed pocket]

He's not a flanker/utility. He can play CHB or CHF as well as midfield if need be. We need to be looking for the next Gov.
Filling our squad with mids and flashy small players without defensive skills isn't going to do anything for our rebuild.

I’ve never seen him as a forward, and the only time I saw him play as a CHB type role was in the academy game that I consider to be not his game and not a role I think he will play at the next level.

There is a general rule that utilities are by virtue high risk because they don’t have a set position at the next level.

You’re entitled to your opinion but those who have concerns about Duursma are not misguided and the concerns about him are legitimate.

I’m a fan of his, but I wouldn’t take him unless he proves his ability in the middle.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

He's not a flanker/utility. He can play CHB or CHF as well as midfield if need be. We need to be looking for the next Gov.
Filling our squad with mids and flashy small players without defensive skills isn't going to do anything for our rebuild.

Watch the tape:



He's an outsider. Contact is not natural for him. He played some KP in this vid, but he's playing against one age group. In the AFL you play against 15 age groups. He's not naturally a KPP. He looks like a Blakey clone.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Not advocating for Duursma (although i'm not particularly against him either without seeing what he brings in the champs), but I think there are plenty of active examples in the AFL that show us a skinnier frame is not always something that prevents the jump to AFL level. I mean, yes it helps but attack on the ball and a combatative nature is more important.

Will Day, Zak Butters

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Zak Butters

Age

25

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

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Mid

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Last 5

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14.3

4star

K

7.7

3star

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6.7

4star

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3.0

3star

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2.6

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

14.7

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

5.9

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

17.0

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

, Connor Rozee

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Connor Rozee

Age

26

Ht

185cm

Wt

79kg

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D/M

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Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

MG

189.2

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

189.2

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

, Tom Powell, Jase Burgoyne, Nas Wang Milera, Ollie Hollands are a few examples of players who had bugger all on their frames when they were drafted (and some still do), but have developed fine and not really players known for taking a backwards step either. Conversely, how many players are there at AFL level who look like Tarzan but play like Jane?

I reckon if you're a player known for not pulling out of the contest and putting your head over the ball, you're always going to put some level of doubt in the opposing player's mind when contesting the footy. That probably matters more than physical stature...in my uneducated viewpoint anyway.

TDLR; if the hard-nosed attitude is there, the rest will probably follow. If Willem can demonstrate that in the champs, I'd be keen. If he doesn't, I would definitely avoid.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Not advocating for Duursma (although i'm not particularly against him either without seeing what he brings in the champs), but I think there are plenty of active examples in the AFL that show us a skinnier frame is not always something that prevents the jump to AFL level. I mean, yes it helps but attack on the ball and a combatative nature is more important.

Will Day, Zak Butters, Connor Rozee, Tom Powell, Jase Burgoyne, Nas Wang Mileera, Ollie Hollands are a few examples of players who had bugger all on their frames when they were drafted (and some still do), but have developed fine and not really players known for taking a backwards step either. Conversely, how many players are there at AFL level who look like Tarzan but play like Jane?

I reckon if you're a player known for not pulling out of the contest and putting your head over the ball, you're always going to put some level of doubt in the opposing player's mind when contesting the footy. That probably matters more than physical stature...in my uneducated viewpoint anyway.

TDLR; if the hard-nosed attitude is there, the rest will probably follow. If Willem can demonstrate that in the champs, I'd be keen. If he doesn't, I would definitely avoid.

I don't think his integrity is in question. His skills, body shape, and attributes, determine he's unlikely to be a KP. For the same reason, he's probably not going to be a regular CBD attendee. Where he will hurt teams is run off half back or wing. They say he's like Will Day, but I think he's more like the Lizard or Isaac Smith.

I think we need to build that midfield. Overflow will fill up some other spots. Then start looking at outsiders and utilities.

He suits North Melbourne's list.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

I don't think his integrity is in question. His skills, body shape, and attributes, determine he's unlikely to be a KP. For the same reason, he's probably not going to be a regular CBD attendee. Where he will hurt teams is run off half back or wing. They say he's like Will Day, but I think he's more like the Lizard.

I think we need to build that midfield. Overflow will fill up some other spots. Then start looking at outsiders and utilities.

He suits North Melbourne's list.

Fair points, if he ends up on my wishlist however it would be as a damaging runner/carrier and not a key position anyways. Not seeing an abundance of that type in this draft, or at least there aren't any that stick in my mind. Let's see what the champs digs up though, so much can change in the next few months.

 

[Thunderstruck]

Posted this on the SA V Allies thread and thought it may be of interest:

"One of the common misconceptions about Sharp is that he is a one wood type of mid with no versaility but infact not true whatsoever. I've been following him pretty closely since he was just 14 and behind his inside stoppage craft and defensive transition/tackling ability, versatility would be his third best trait. Sometimes, perhaps to the detriment of his main game, he is just a very coachable professional and can play many different roles. Allowing this is his understanding of the game structure and his overhead marking with the latter being above average for your typical inside mid.

He can play half back as an interceptor, half back flanker and moreso imo, half forward and rest well at full forward if required (we saw this against the Allies when his side was getting belted out of the middle but that's another story). He's actually quick off the mark (2.89 sec 20m sprint) just not a high top speed. Can react before most which helps that. He's by no means a quality/scything kick which you would expect for an AFL perm half back like a NWM/Whitfield type but most inside mids aren't, but certainly he's got the ability to roost it 55m, he has a powerful leg. His main issue kicking wise often comes from the shorter passes he tries to do after he's just left congestion and when caught on his right, rarely uses his left even though he can kick on it. As mentioned, better than most defensively, if he's not getting it, he's tackling the person that is.

At AFL level though, primarily he will be used as an inside mid as of course that is his best position. A vocal leader, a follow me type of player who will in my eyes become an AFL captain one day, his edges may be a tad rough but you play for blokes like that."

I will also add he comes from very much the same country as Hurn (Barossa), and the same club (Central District). If Hurn is still around there next year, he would be the perfect mentor. He's the same laid back kind of country lad. In terms of talent, he's the best kid I've seen come through the doggies (Central District) since Hurn himself. I can see him sliding if he doesn't have a dominant nationals but for me he's still my pick 1 for now, just a super safe all round footballer.

 

[THE A5]

Could be a good omen, our last two blokes feom central districts both won a flag

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Foxsports says Reilly O'Brien

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Reilly O'brien

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30

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

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Ruck

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14.4

4star

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5.9

2star

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8.5

5star

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1.6

4star

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23.8

5star

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14.4

3star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

4star

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1.6

4star

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23.8

5star

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12.6

4star

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4.8

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7.8

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1.0

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24.8

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has not signed a contract extension with the Crows. He is not happy with the two year deal they have offered him. And the Crows don't want to offer him more until they find out whether Draper is going to come to them or not.

Might be worth making an Overs offer to him. He must be an unrestricted free agent so would come for free and would likely give us a genuine stop gap for 3 - 5 years.

I guess the possible downside would be if taking an unrestricted free agent means we get nothing if Allen leaves. I don't know what the rules are around that.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I guess the good news on Dursma is that the odds say one of the Dursma’s has to end up being good, and it’s certainly not going to be one of his other brothers

 

[Avalor]

I don't think his integrity is in question. His skills, body shape, and attributes, determine he's unlikely to be a KP. For the same reason, he's probably not going to be a regular CBD attendee. Where he will hurt teams is run off half back or wing. They say he's like Will Day, but I think he's more like the Lizard or Isaac Smith.

I think we need to build that midfield. Overflow will fill up some other spots. Then start looking at outsiders and utilities.

He suits North Melbourne's list.

Could he be a Whitfield type - he is still pretty lean till this day.

 

[ziad]

Could he be a Whitfield type - he is still pretty lean till this day.

This is a capability gap in our current list. Recent MSD aside.

 

[THE A5]

I guess the good news on Dursma is that the odds say one of the Dursma’s has to end up being good, and it’s certainly not going to be one of his other brothers

Didn’t happen to the Morton’s

 

[beatlesmith]

I think we’re in the market for a dashing outside player almost as much as we are for a strong inside mid. Sharp and Duursma would suit if we have picks 1 and 2, and then circle back for another genuine mid like Swadling with the Hawks pick.

Curtin is tempting but it’s difficult to say what his best position is. Is he too slow to be a KPD? Not tall/springy enough to be a ruckman? Do we need another KPF?

 

[Elite Pete]

I think we’re in the market for a dashing outside player almost as much as we are for a strong inside mid. Sharp and Duursma would suit if we have picks 1 and 2, and then circle back for another genuine mid like Swadling with the Hawks pick.

Curtin is tempting but it’s difficult to say what his best position is. Is he too slow to be a KPD? Not tall/springy enough to be a ruckman? Do we need another KPF?

I agree with the first two picks atm.

Duursma and Sharp give plenty of what we need.

Rodriguez/Lindsay/Grij might be there at the Hawks pick or if we trade up.

I also think we could get ahead of the game and trade our F2 for a late first or one of GC late firsts (depending on how their points are going) sounds like no one is keen to trade into this draft and our F2 looks like it will be used for Kehn or maybe McGlade anyway.

A possible draft of Duursma, Sharp, Rodriguez/Lindsay/Grij and Curtin would be very nice on top of Walley, Evans, Williams and Banifield and maybe even Montgomery as an extra Cat B.

Just can’t fit them all?

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

Nothing really besides he is likely not ask for a trade at the end of this year but unknown after that. Vibes stuff kept Warner at the Swans too.

I have met Harley a few times now, and the perception I get; He is a lad, he loves being with the boys and establishing his roots here.

The last time I met him was a couple of weeks ago, playing indoor with boots, he came down and watched us and talked shit after the game. But wtf would I know....on the outside he looks like happy but comes money, promises and temptation he may have or his management have grandeur plans.

I would be shocked though if he asked to leave.

 

[MaxHunt]

As of ratings today, why would the Eagles take Sharp with 1 or 2 when hes predicted to go from 6 to mid teens?

 

[Elite Pete]

As of ratings today, why would the Eagles take Sharp with 1 or 2 when hes predicted to go from 6 to mid teens?

These are ratings and mock drafts. Plenty of questions to be asked. Plenty of games to play out. Plus that top 10 has plenty of academy players that we wont have access to.

Are the Vic boys flight risks? Ect.

They might not, they might trade pick 2 (CDT) to the Bombers for pick 7* and 9*.

Seems like last year the top 6 will be hard to predict where they go until we get closer to the draft

 

[Elite Pete]

Gettable update for non listeners. Eagles talking points.

GC owned Port Adelaide pick is up for grabs (no teams linked but atm we would be one of the best placed)

Saints bye report card. Chase Harley if he wants to return to Vic.

Oscar likely still gone but ‘who knows if he and the team continue playing like that and you can see how happy the players looked.’

Some OOC players mentioned.(They didn’t name the teams or us for a lot of these players.)

Erasmus has interest from clubs and there will likely be more clubs if he continues to play like this.

Starcevich has interest from other clubs and with the Lions after Oscar and Draper are they of the view they can let him go.

Sheldrick has clubs sniffing around and hasn’t started any contract talks yet. Swans likely need points as well.

Budarick had clubs interested last year (NM and Ess) but stayed, has clubs having a look now (WB mentioned)

 

[Happy Mastenator]

As of ratings today, why would the Eagles take Sharp with 1 or 2 when hes predicted to go from 6 to mid teens?

Because like every year all the mocks have the Vic boys up at the very top as they are under the noses of most of the journos.

Come the championship it all shakes out and players move up and down.

You're right though, if Sharp doesn't have a great Championships and isn't worth number 1, someone else will be and we'll look at them. Having said that the opportunity to trade out of 1 is a live one, if it's Dursma/CDT at the top two.

Dropping back a few spots to the Bombers firsts , or a couple of the GC firsts if they end up allowing you to take two geniuine midfielders of Sharp/Grilj/Rodrgiuez etc., in addition to pick 1 or pick 2 (Then a Dursma/CDT is much more palatable even if not an exact fit), while still having the Hawks first for a Curtin maybe, would be delicious.

Pick 1 - traded to Essendon who take one of CDT/Dursma that they absolutely love and see as clear standout (CDT massive chance here with Draper potentially going)
Pick 2 - Eagles take - CDT/Dursma
Pick 6 - (Essendon's pick) Eagles take Sharp
Pick 8 - (Melbourne's pick that Essendon have) Eagles take Rodriguez
Pick 10 - (Hawks pick) Eagles take Curtin
Pick 19 - Traded to Essendon (our first pick of round 2)

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

Seeing more value in splitting one of our hopefully 2 top 3 picks, than actually taking players there as the ones I want will probabaly be there later.

Duursma hasn’t set the world on fire lately but i’m still big on him and think some people on here underestimate his contested ability. He’s not zane lads. The other prospects I’m liking are Sharp, Lindsay, Rodriguez Grlj, Curtin and Swadling.

I think taking Duursma at 1 and trading down from 2 to one of Richmond’s picks + a F2 would be smart. I think an F2, our current 2nd +3rd plus Hawks 2nd (and 3rd if really necessary) would be enough to entice GC for Ports pick and allow us to keep Hawks first.
Leaving a potential scenario with:
1-Duursma
3/4- Lindsay
5 (currently ports pick after our compo) - Rodriguez/Sharp
Hawks pick- Curtin if there otherwise Swadling.
+ Matching Walley by facilitating a trade for points necessary

Would be a massive haul. I also rate Evans highly as an NGA product but think we’ll get him on the cheap due to missing a large chunk due to back stressies.

for continued development of our current NGA and father-son lads for next year with McGlade and Kehn potential first rounders and Harper Banfield also looking a tantalising prospect. All going well I think majority of our rebuild will be done by the end of 26 draft, if we can manage to have a big draft this year.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Could he be a Whitfield type - he is still pretty lean till this day.

We don't know. If we knew a kid was going to be as good as Whitfield, we'd take him every day of the week. I see Lindsay and Grjl closer to Whitfield.

Let's see how Duursma goes in the champs. He might dominate and be irresistible at 1/2. But if he's just "in the mix", I'm taking someone else.

 

[ronpingwins]

Seems to be a bit of groupthink atm with CDT 1 Duursma 2 because it’s a bit unclear. Expect it to change a lot after the champs.

 

[Donkers]

I want Lindsay, Rodriguez, Grlj, Sharp, Curtin in that order as things stand now.

So would be quite happy to trade down for multiple picks if possible.

Something we really haven't explored in the long term is Jack Williams FF and then playing dual CHF's/third talls in Maric+Hutchinson. In a hard and fast play style I think it has merit. Archer reid to be the primary ruck. Fleet of smalls on the outside and other forward positions.

Not interested at all in CDT and Duursma would have to play midfield and blitz it across the carnival and back end of the year for me to have any interest.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Flynn broke even in the ruck against Geelong, with their main ruck out injured hence the clearances were even, although the Cats won the centre clearances because Flynn can’t jump, although good around the ground, this week he’s up against one of the best rucks in the league, and we will probably lose the taps 2 to 1, putting our mids under a heap of pressure.
We need to draft or trade for a ruck, I hate to sound like a broken record, but it’s plain as day obvious in my view.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Flynn broke even in the ruck against Geelong, with their main ruck out injured hence the clearances were even, although the Cats won the centre clearances because Flynn can’t jump, although good around the ground, this week he’s up against one of the best rucks in the league, and we will probably lose the taps 2 to 1, putting our mids under a heap of pressure.
We need to draft or trade for a ruck, I hate to sound like a broken record, but it’s plain as day obvious in my view.

Who’s Geelong’s main ruck who’s out injured?