List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Happy Mastenator]

If McCarthy keeps doing what hes doing, what does that mean for our list build going forward? Especially if he stays in the midfield?

Lets assume he makes it as an outside/transition mid.
Do we shift from drafting basically exclusively mids with first round picks this year to targeting Lindsay/Farrow more to be that distributor off half back? We dont really have anybody else to do it

Always draft best available with first round picks, draft for need after then.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I still think Ivan Soldo

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Ivan Soldo

Age

29

Ht

204cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

24.2

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

3.1

1star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

23.0

5star

D

6.4

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

21.4

5star

is worth a look as a stop-gap for a couple of years. Out of favour at Port, could be interested in a move.

 

[Barrybran]

Collingwood signing on the senior players to maintain their premiership window reminds me of our list strategy a few years ago.

If they fall into the injury/unavailability spiral, I wonder if the media community will be as fierce with Collingwood as they have been with us.

Not in the slightest

 

[Big_Birdy]

I still think Ivan Soldo is worth a look as a stop-gap for a couple of years. Out of favour at Port, could be interested in a move.

Thought the issue was his partner wants to be in Melbourne? Although I guess beggars can't be choosers.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Thought the issue was his partner wants to be in Melbourne? Although I guess beggars can't be choosers.

I think she’s a flight attendant for Emirates or Qatar? In which case Perth is probably more convenient than Adelaide.

Edit: looks like she’s quit that job and moved back to Melbs. Ah well.

 

[Hasselhough]

Again if your whole point is there’s no guarantees you can’t say Richmond nailed it.

It’s either too early to say that or not too early to say they ****ed up missing Shanahan.

Richmond 100% nailed it in how to rebuild. The players they chose we will have to wait and see

- They exited senior players with value and extracted maximum value no future picks . They also kept a skeleton crew of older players across all lines and kept a competent midfield toranto hopper prestia mcintosh nankervis to then add the new mids around

- used their top 3 picks on mids

- used the rest of their 1st rounders on talls at the start of their rebuild.

- then traded a 20s pick + F2nd for what is now pick 2 before FA compos

it would be a wet dream west coast coming out and showing competency like that .

In comparison we have a torrent of abuse and comments from our own fans for trading pick 3 and commentators laughing at how stupid we are .

To then be told that it was part of a bigger picture and we wouldn't know it all till after trade period

 

[pantskyle]

well we made them pay which is the second best option, who would you target now?

Max Gawn.

Not sure that a ready to go ruck is all that high up on the agenda for the Eagles. Seem to like what they see in Reid.

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

It really really isn’t.

Maybe you didn’t want Cameron, but when a good day still equates to losing the hit out counts to a 3-1 ratio and losing clearances 4-1, it means a solution needs to happen.

Rucks are the most finite resource in footy. Cameron was a good’n.
Okay yeah his age profile wasn’t perfect, but he would’ve made the single biggest difference without paying top top dollar for a blue chip mid (in either $$ or trade capital).

Disagree, with Cameron there is a genuine question of if he is made to look a better player/ruck by his team/midfielders. He's not the needle mover type ruck who you can be sure would make our team better (naitanui, Witts, gawn etc). If we could have got him for a 2nd round pick, great but if we would have had to give up Hawthorns first there is no guarantee we are getting a player that would make much of a difference. For example I think if Flynn played for GWS still he'd look a better ruckman than he does for us.

To put this in context Geelong paid a similar pick to get Bailey Smith as what we may have had to pay to get Cameron.

 

[WCE_Phill]

Would of liked Cameron but was gonna cost Hawks R1

Hopefully we get at least 1 end of first round as a PP or prelist NGA, I think we'll come some sort of assistance

I think the best thing to do is a crazy deal with GC, offer Davies and Moyle big deals (I'm talking $4m for 5 years) We have the caps space and no other club can match)

Hawks R1 14*, 19*, WCE 20* for Ports R1 7*, Moyle and Davies.

If no PP, then add Hawks R2.

Leaves us with 1,2 and 7, plus Davies, Moyle and all our NGA

 

[eaglevision]

Richmond 100% nailed it in how to rebuild. The players they chose we will have to wait and see

- They exited senior players with value and extracted maximum value no future picks . They also kept a skeleton crew of older players across all lines and kept a competent midfield toranto hopper prestia mcintosh nankervis to then add the new mids around

- used their top 3 picks on mids

- used the rest of their 1st rounders on talls at the start of their rebuild.

- then traded a 20s pick + F2nd for what is now pick 2 before FA compos

it would be a wet dream west coast coming out and showing competency like that .

In comparison we have a torrent of abuse and comments for our own fans for trading pick 3 and commentators laughing at how stupid we are .

To then be told that it was part of a bigger picture and we wouldn't know it all till after trade period

In my view I agree they nailed the process but stuffed up the picks.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Jaeger o'meara was touted as good as Harley reid pre draft and his first 2 years were close to as good as anyone's has been .

He then ****ed his knee and was never the same player .

More nuanced than he ****ed his knee. Suffice to say he was grossly mismanaged. It didn't have to go the way it went.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

If we want Busslinger it surely can't be hard to get him to demand a move given how he's been treated by the Dogs. Surely he has no loyalty to them.

 

[Hasselhough]

In my view I agree they nailed the process but stuffed up the picks.

Which picks ?

Talls take time and that is my point we really won't know for 4-5 years

Yes they missed shanahan but so did many other teams . Shan has kicked 1 bag of 3 goals and taken some nice marks but his vice like marking was well known before the draft .

Lalor was rightfully numbers 1

Smillie injured most of the year

Hotton coming back from ACL looks a ripper probably would have been top 5-8 without injury

Did we **** up taking bo Allan ?

Drafting is not an exact science but Richmond gave themselves the best chance through competence.

Unfortunately though our own incompetence we missed out on the top talent from the best draft in years .

Unforgivable

 

[Hasselhough]

More nuanced than he ****ed his knee. Suffice to say he was grossly mismanaged. It didn't have to go the way it went.

All I know is he tore his patella off the bone and you are never the same after that type of injury.

Lost all his explosive running

 

[archiemoses]

Matt Clarke leaves Richmond and they get their list management spot on and whilst ours is butchered and he has to leave the room during negotiations

 

[jdisc]

step on up Harry Barnett

 

[WCErevival]

Way too early to tell if Richmond have done well. A couple of their draftees look like they might be ruined by injury already.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Dogs have a embarrassment of riches for talls. Could we prize Lachlan smith out of them?

Along with Reeves and Moyle.

 

[eaglevision]

Which picks ?

Talls take time and that is my point we really won't know for 4-5 years

Yes they missed shanahan but so did many other teams . Shan has kicked 1 bag of 3 goals and taken some nice marks but his vice like marking was well known before the draft .

Lalor was rightfully numbers 1

Smillie injured most of the year

Hotton coming back from ACL looks a ripper probably would have been top 5-8 without injury

Did we **** up taking bo Allan ?

Drafting is not an exact science but Richmond gave themselves the best chance through competence.

Unfortunately though our own incompetence we missed out on the top talent from the best draft in years .

Unforgivable

I would have taken FOS at #1, Smillie at #6 was fair enough but has just been injured, Reid or Berry would have been better for them in my view than Hotton with his ACL. Have covered their talls vs Jobe. Trade with North was not them being geniuses, it was North being North.

Don’t think we need to revisit Reid vs Allan.

 

[eaglevision]

Dogs have a embarrassment of riches for talls. Could we prize Lachlan smith out of them?

Along with Reeves and Moyle.

I was big on him early in the year but he’s just extended. Reeves told us to FO last year and Moyle wants to stay at GCS. Perhaps if we open the cheque book properly.

 

[Hasselhough]

If we want Busslinger it surely can't be hard to get him to demand a move given how he's been treated by the Dogs. Surely he has no loyalty to them.

do people think busslinger is a better user than maric ?

Because they are basically the same size and both have the same problem in they are not very good defenders yet

 

[Hasselhough]

I would have taken FOS at #1, Smillie at #6 was fair enough but has just been injured, Reid or Berry would have been better for them in my view than Hotton with his ACL. Have covered their talls vs Jobe. Trade with North was not them being geniuses, it was North being North.

Don’t think we need to revisit Reid vs Allan.

Fair enough . Armstrong has almost been as good as shanahan who they picked as a key forward ahead of him

Hotton looks silk like a better version of chesser wish he lasted and got him over bo

FOS to me has a ceiling of Whitfield very outside . Do you take an outside player with pick 1 ? I'm not sure

Lalor could have a ceiling of dusty .

Guess time will tell

 

[Obeanie1]

Agree but at the end of the day Richmond converted their players into draft picks in the best perceived draft in a long time .

Did it right drafting talls early in their rebuild and using their best picks on mids

On the other hand we completely ****ed our trade period last off season

Trading out pick 3 in a bumper draft then been stuck picking what's left rather than picking who we want

Over paying for Baker when other teams would stand firm .

Trading out our only useful asset in barrass then having to wait a year for future picks .
Future picks in a weak draft.
The only reason this happened because hawks knew we are push overs.
We didn't even make a fuss about it too busy trying to sell pick 3 for Baker.

Thank **** our drafting team pulled some gems out in shanahan gross and davis .

I have a feeling nothing will have changed this off season and we will give up picks for the likes of Duncan or overpay for 30 year old ex WA seniors who want to come home and cash in their last few years

Well that's a whole pile of negativity whilst shovelling praise Richmond's way.

Interesting points raised by some.

Richmond's huge draft haul haven't delivered alot at all. But are still young enough for people to think they will ALL make it.

That's not how the draft works. DGB pick 6 now delisted.

Our youngsters have been in the system for several years and those like a Chesser are being written off.

Punters havent written off any of the Tigers draftees yet Smillie hasn't debuted and has picked up another injury. Lalor who ripped his hammie off the bone pre draft has injured the same hammie twice in his 1st season. Twice.

Hotton coming off an acl has done some nice things g's in several late games.

The talls are taking time.

Don't agree with the negativity around splitting pick 3 last year.

I'm looking forward to 2026 for real improvement. These player have just hit 50 games or will in the 1st half of 2026

Ginbey
Hough
Maric
Hutchings
Hewett
H Reid
Brockman
J Williams
Possibly Chesser if he gets an extension.

When will the Tigers kids hit 50 plus games?

 

[eaglevision]

Fair enough . Armstrong has almost been as good as shanahan who they picked as a key forward ahead of him

Hotton looks silk like a better version of chesser wish he lasted and got him over bo

FOS to me has a ceiling of Whitfield very outside . Do you take an outside player with pick 1 ? I'm not sure

Lalor could have a ceiling of dusty .

Guess time will tell

2 of their 3 talls have arguments to take them first but I just can’t see how all 3 should have been taken before Jobe but that’s Richmond’s decision.

Hotton’s knee is a concern, that’s the only reason.

FOS has an inside game and as he gets bigger I think we’ll all see one of the best balanced mids in the game if North don’t stuff his development.

Lalor had big injury red flags before the draft and this year has done nothing to change that but Tigers had so many picks they could afford the risk.

 

[Westend]

So we are using all avenues are we to improve our list Pyke and co.....??

Bullshit

Once again the club fails to land a quality player

Jackson English Warner and now Cameron

It just shows if you go half arse ....you get F**k all

Poor again by the Eagles