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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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Warner still hasn’t signed and his interview at the airport was interesting

At what round does Warner become a real possibility for us if he hasn’t signed?

It feels it’s either Eagles or Swans

He was reportedly very close to signing for 2 years. If it reaches mid year and he hasn't, I think the writing is on the wall. If he hasn't signed in the next month the drums will be beating.
 
Warner still hasn’t signed and his interview at the airport was interesting

At what round does Warner become a real possibility for us if he hasn’t signed?

It feels it’s either Eagles or Swans

If he hasn’t signed by their mid season bye, it’s on.


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Warner still hasn’t signed and his interview at the airport was interesting

At what round does Warner become a real possibility for us if he hasn’t signed?

It feels it’s either Eagles or Swans
Cal on gettable is the best source for that stuff imo. (Even with his heavy Essendon biased). His reporting on Chad has always been vibe stuff like everyone else but suggest he still very likely to sign at the Swans for 2 years but did say if he hasn’t signed in the next 6 weeks, alarm bells would be going off. He also said he’s never heard someone speak like Chad and saying how open he is about the possibility of moving.
 

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We could use a 23 year old A grader, but we can't sell the farm. We need to take multiple firsts to the draft this year.
I think we can still swing it. We already have two first rounders then if Oscar leaves that's another then if we get some of the AFL's magic beans in the form of an assistance package (potentially similar to Norf's first one where they got given picks that they had to trade) then that could leave us with with four first rounders to play with.

Should be enough to trade in an established star in Warner whilst also still building the youth with multiple first rounders.
 
I think we can still swing it. We already have two first rounders then if Oscar leaves that's another then if we get some of the AFL's magic beans in the form of an assistance package (potentially similar to Norf's first one where they got given picks that they had to trade) then that could leave us with with four first rounders to play with.

Should be enough to trade in an established star in Warner whilst also still building the youth with multiple first rounders.
I'm not banking on AFL giving us priority picks. Can we just be tough negotiators like Hawks were with us for (a contracted) Barrass and Geelong were with Smith?

Just put our F1 on the table and say that's as good as it gets.
 
While Warner is an elite established player, he's not going to win us games off his boot until we can grow other mids around him. By the end of the year we could have a totally different midfield group, but i feel like thats unlikely. Going to this draft with either picks 1 and 2 or 2 and 3 would have a much greater long term benefit than having to split or trade for Warner. If Reid leaves, we could have 6 picks in the first round this year, so in that situation it could work.
 
Warner still hasn’t signed and his interview at the airport was interesting

At what round does Warner become a real possibility for us if he hasn’t signed?

It feels it’s either Eagles or Swans
For me, halfway through the season, by that point I don't see why any party would budge from their position or offer and they know what they're willing to accept and where they want to be.

I'd also say it a little disconcerting that Harley hasnt signed some form of extension. Although he is given the same grace (at the end of next season) and his management will be in no rush to ensure he gets a deal at the pointy end.

**** knows what $$$ would like..... Two million per season for a 3rd year player (2026), 20 years old is almost fantasy-like.
 
While Warner is an elite established player, he's not going to win us games off his boot until we can grow other mids around him. By the end of the year we could have a totally different midfield group, but i feel like thats unlikely. Going to this draft with either picks 1 and 2 or 2 and 3 would have a much greater long term benefit than having to split or trade for Warner. If Reid leaves, we could have 6 picks in the first round this year, so in that situation it could work.
I just don’t get the Warner is someone you can’t build around argument. Do we only think hardened coal faced operators like Patrick Cripps are the only types you build around? Did you think you could build around Lachie Neale when he went to Brisbane?

Chad Would instantly improve our midfield. For oppo coaches, Do you put attention into Harley or Chad? It would then allow the other one, Yeo, TK (if still here) and any other young mids take less heat.

Not only that, Warner would bring a positivity to the club to prospective recruits that were on the up. As well as lifting standards for our current young mids to aspire to.

Don’t sell everything for him, but happy to pay a reasonably fair and high price.

Going full draft is going full…….

I don’t want to be cancelled.
 
While Warner is an elite established player, he's not going to win us games off his boot until we can grow other mids around him. By the end of the year we could have a totally different midfield group, but i feel like thats unlikely. Going to this draft with either picks 1 and 2 or 2 and 3 would have a much greater long term benefit than having to split or trade for Warner. If Reid leaves, we could have 6 picks in the first round this year, so in that situation it could work.

Two different things. Whoever we pick as a mid in this years draft isn’t going to be contributing in a truly meaningful way on the midfield on a weekly basis for a couple of years.

We have a midfield that is the worst in the comp and is largely uncompetitive week to week. Warner is appealing because you can put him in the midfield and build around: Harley, Hewett, Gross, Hall.

It will allow us to move Baker back to the backline, so the flow on effect is we strengthen our midfield and our backline with one recruitment.

But you're right, we also need to hit the draft and find mids. That's why any Warner trade can't be our 2 firsts, and I'd go further and say our best deal should be Hawks pick and our F1. Which in the scheme of things, is still a very valuable trade. You're looking at pick 16 + a notional top 5 pick next year.

If we can manage an off-season of Warner + Rodriguez + Oscar compo + Banfield + Walley that would represent an off-season that gets us back on track.

If Oscar leaves and we have pick 2+3 and give up 3 for Warner, it needs to be 3 with no extras.
 
I just don’t get the Warner is someone you can’t build around argument. Do we only think hardened coal faced operators like Patrick Cripps are the only types you build around? Did you think you could build around Lachie Neale when he went to Brisbane?

Chad Would instantly improve our midfield. For oppo coaches, Do you put attention into Harley or Chad? It would then allow the other one, Yeo, TK (if still here) and any other young mids take less heat.

Not only that, Warner would bring a positivity to the club to prospective recruits that were on the up. As well as lifting standards for our current young mids to aspire to.

Don’t sell everything for him, but happy to pay a reasonably fair and high price.
Agree with this, but what is a reasonably fair and high price in your view?
 
I just don’t get the Warner is someone you can’t build around argument. Do we only think hardened coal faced operators like Patrick Cripps are the only types you build around? Did you think you could build around Lachie Neale when he went to Brisbane?

Chad Would instantly improve our midfield. For oppo coaches, Do you put attention into Harley or Chad? It would then allow the other one, Yeo, TK (if still here) and any other young mids take less heat.

Not only that, Warner would bring a positivity to the club to prospective recruits that were on the up. As well as lifting standards for our current young mids to aspire to.

Don’t sell everything for him, but happy to pay a reasonably fair and high price.

Going full draft is going full…….

I don’t want to be cancelled.
Definitely not saying we can't build around him. I don't think oppo coaches need to put attention on any of our mids, adding Chad would give them something to think about.

If we were 12th-9th, pushing for chad this year would be our best move. But considering we have no midfield talent or depth. Building a strong base by utilising the draft before we cant is our best option. Getting 2 best possible mids this year and the best possible one next draft, and then adding chad the year after that has to be the best play.
 

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Hopefully Petch and Cole get a band 5 offer (pick 38 and 39) as well as band 1 for Oscar. Trade those picks as well as our 2R and Hawks 2R, 3R for Warner and Sydney’s 1R.

Hit the draft with 3x1R (WCE, HAW, SYD) and take the points deficit (if any) into 2026 2R.

Leave the draft with 2 best mids available at the pick, Curtin and our NGA/FSs as well as Warner.
 
Warner becomes alot more attractive if we get a band one compensation for Allen trade out that and a f1 for Warner Rodriguez and swalding rounds out the midfield nicely
100% a 2026 midfield of possibly
Darcy Cameron
Yeo
Warner
Harley (fit)
Rodriguez

With depth and support of
Gross*
Hewett*
Kelly*
Baker*
Graham*
Hall*

Is a good for now and the future planning too
 
100% a 2026 midfield of possibly
Darcy Cameron
Yeo
Warner
Harley (fit)
Rodriguez


With depth and support of
Gross*
Hewett*
Kelly*
Baker*
Graham*
Hall*

Is a good for now and the future planning too

If this happens it will be a huge step in the right direction.
 
If this happens it will be a huge step in the right direction.
Can’t see Harley not coming back fit next year, no matter what club he is at.

There is a world where we get one of Duursma or Sharp and Rodriguez. If one slides a little.

We are nearly best place to bundle for the Suns earliest pick or if the Chad thing goes down, Max King (swans academy) leaps into that top 3 rankings and we finish 3rd bottom. Or McGlade or Kehn project to top 10 next year and we risk the future first.
 
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I just don’t get the Warner is someone you can’t build around argument. Do we only think hardened coal faced operators like Patrick Cripps are the only types you build around? Did you think you could build around Lachie Neale when he went to Brisbane?

Chad Would instantly improve our midfield. For oppo coaches, Do you put attention into Harley or Chad? It would then allow the other one, Yeo, TK (if still here) and any other young mids take less heat.

Not only that, Warner would bring a positivity to the club to prospective recruits that were on the up. As well as lifting standards for our current young mids to aspire to.

Don’t sell everything for him, but happy to pay a reasonably fair and high price.

Going full draft is going full…….

I don’t want to be cancelled.
Is Warner > pick 1/2/3 though?
Plus we only get him for 50% of a career (the slowing down part).


Unobjectively he is another Tim Kelly that looks good when he's not the main man and can skirt packs. Warner can't kick for shit either.
 
Freddy this evening was very quiet. 6 disposals. I watched the last quarter and a half, seemed to be rotating from HFF onto the ball.
Did a couple very nice things though, a good goal and a very clean ground ball get with head over ball and turning body at moment of impact to protect himself and release.
Cleanliness and skills are evident. First game at senior level the lack of footy can be excused
 
Sharp looks like the prospect who fits our needs the most, moreso than Duursma or Rodriguez.

Big bodied, uncompromising ball winner who runs both ways. I think we need someone of that profile to compliment Reid, Hewett and potentially Warner, who win less ball but do damage with it.

Hopefully Hall and Allan can also develop to play that role which may change our thinking by the end of the year.

Starting to think that we need Allen to leave and get FA compo for this rebuild to really take shape.
 
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