List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[WCEswift]

Anyone know what the go is with Jordon Butts from adelaide playing in the sanfl? he was real good as a kpd a season or 2 ago in the afl

 

[dinnaz]

I'd keep Barnett around a little bit longer. He was rated the best ruck in his draft class and very rarely do rucks come in and tear the house down immediately. That being said I don't watch WAFL and his stats always look so pedestrian, hell, even Flynn had like 20 disposals and 50 hit-outs this week did he not?

Best in class is somewhat misleading because it was a terrible class.
Exactly the same with Bo Allan last year in a poor quality WA side.
Both have a lot of athleticism but the football side needs to catch up.

 

[Spooky17]

Best in class is somewhat misleading because it was a terrible class.
Exactly the same with Bo Allan last year in a poor quality WA side.
Both have a lot of athleticism but the football side needs to catch up.

Gone early on Bo I see. Let’s give the kid a chance, he’s only 18.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Gone early on Bo I see. Let’s give the kid a chance, he’s only 18.

Yeah - hear that he has better skills and footy IQ than Ginbey, & Ginbey's going gangbusters.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Gone early on Bo I see. Let’s give the kid a chance, he’s only 18.

The issue that I have with him is the chances that pick #3 turns into an elite player is much higher.

I've seen Bo play (on Youtube). Despite people saying he's a HB flanker, I think he's a midfield bull. But to cut it as a midfield bull at AFL level, you have to be elite. I'm not convinced he'll be that good.

 

[Rowan18]

The issue that I have with him is the chances that pick #3 turns into an elite player is much higher.

I've seen Bo play (on Youtube). Despite people saying he's a HB flanker, I think he's a midfield bull. But to cut it as a midfield bull at AFL level, you have to be elite. I'm not convinced he'll be that good.

Likely we would have used pick 3 on Jagga Smith who looks to be an absolute dud. Small body that relied on athleticism, but now he's done a ACL.

Drafting is a lottery and I'm incredibly happy with our 2024 draft overall. 2 debuts already who looked good yesterday, Shannhahan showing alot in the WAFL and Allan knows how to win the ball (but needs to tidy up disposal).

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Likely we would have used pick 3 on Jagga Smith who looks to be an absolute dud. Small body that relied on athleticism, but now he's done a ACL.

He hasn't played a game. We probably would have gone Draper.

Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

Drafting is a lottery and I'm incredibly happy with our 2024 draft overall. 2 debuts already who looked good yesterday, Shannhahan showing alot in the WAFL and Allan knows how to win the ball (but needs to tidy up disposal).

If it's a lottery, why do clubs covet top 5 picks?
And why did we not net any good players when we didn't have a top 10 pick for a decade?

 

[Rowan18]

He hasn't played a game. We probably would have gone Draper.

Are you sure you know what you're talking about?


If it's a lottery, why do clubs covet top 5 picks?
And why did we not net any good players when we didn't have a top 10 pick for a decade?

No good players for a decade? Get your hand off it.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

No good players for a decade? Get your hand off it.

1R picks 2011-2020 - Brander, Venables, Duggan, Sheed.

Boom.

 

[Free Agent]

Tim Kelly contract ends this season and apparently with the information out there, he is on a fairly large salary. Has he done enough to 1) retain his services and 2) and if accepted, is he even worth 500k+ next season ?

He is playing like a man that wants out and Im not sure if he would get accepted anywhere else given his desire to be at home. TK is 30 years old and has lost considerable pace and already shown/expressed a lack of desire.

Just get rid of him. I'm so over these senior players who are doing nothing.

There was a lot too like today from the U22 age group and it highlights some really nice quality players we have coming along, unfortunately it exposed a group that are not up to the quality of AFL standard and there will be some real hard decisions on list management over the next 2-3 years.
The immediate issue is our midfield which we all know, A grade draftee needed and Warner and B grade mid traded in 2025, KDEF which is a work in progress to replace another couple of great players for our club in Barrass(traded) and Gov who has maybe this year and next.

List Management:
2025:
Jamieson - delist
Chesser - delist/trade
Sheed - retire
Petch - trade RFA
Rawlinson - delist
Kelly - if form continues it will be hard for Kelly to get anything more than a 1 year contract, depending on Warner trade and ability to get another B+ mid through trade 2025.
Brockman - survives getting a 1 or 2 year deal until SF players go past him
Cripps - deserves a 1 year contract

2026:
Hunt - delist
Barnett - delist
Brockman - probably gets another short term contract
Flynn - delist if Ruck can be traded in
Cripps - depending on form 1 year extension
Gov - depending on injuries 1 year extension
Livingstone - depending on form and and list need a 1 year extension

The Barnett one hurts because he was only a spot in the draft past Darcy Jones.
How we didn't try everything to get Darcy Jones in 2022 draft is pretty poor recruitment.
Especially when Darcy Jones supports the Eagles.

 

[bzparkes]

Just get rid of him. I'm so over these senior players who are doing nothing.

The Barnett one hurts because he was only a spot in the draft past Darcy Jones.
How we didn't try everything to get Darcy Jones in 2022 draft is pretty poor recruitment.
Especially when Darcy Jones supports the Eagles.

How were we supposed to get Jones?

 

[Altum Volantes]

Just get rid of him. I'm so over these senior players who are doing nothing.

The Barnett one hurts because he was only a spot in the draft past Darcy Jones.
How we didn't try everything to get Darcy Jones in 2022 draft is pretty poor recruitment.
Especially when Darcy Jones supports the Eagles.

I like Darcy Jones - he’s got a lot of talent.

But he is very much a ‘cream’ player who enjoys playing in a good team with a stacked midfield and a number of goal kicking smalls.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

1R picks 2011-2020 - Brander, Venables, Duggan, Sheed.

Boom.

I can't be arsed verifying that but **** me.

Sheed's a club legend though.

Trading a first rounder for Redden worked.

 

[Del125763]

I like Darcy Jones - he’s got a lot of talent.

But he is very much a ‘cream’ player who enjoys playing in a good team with a stacked midfield and a number of goal kicking smalls.

Reckon right now you would take Darcy Jones ahead of Ginbey as much as Ginbey has captaincy material written over him.

And comfortably ahead of E Hewett even though its still very much early days.

 

[Free Agent]

How were we supposed to get Jones?

Quite easy as we used pick 23 on Barnett and Darcy Jones was pick 21.

All we needed to do was improve our draft hand by trading pick 23 and a third round for a pick higher up. Say pick 18.
Would of been very easy but we obviously wasn't interested in recruiting Darcy Jones.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Gone early on Bo I see. Let’s give the kid a chance, he’s only 18.

And hasn't even played a game yet

Interestingly Langford (who we supposedly wouldve take with 3) had 11 touches at 55% efficiency on the weekend. Some on this board wouldve written his career off already if he was playing for us

 

[Broken_Chairs]

I can't be arsed verifying that but **** me.

Sheed's a club legend though.

Trading a first rounder for Redden worked.

Missing the esteemed Murray Newman bodes poorly

 

[bzparkes]

Quite easy as we used pick 23 on Barnett and Darcy Jones was pick 21.

All we needed to do was improve our draft hand by trading pick 23 and a third round for a pick higher up. Say pick 18.
Would of been very easy but we obviously wasn't interested in recruiting Darcy Jones.

What if we tried that and there were no takers?

You're just assuming because GWF jumped in front of us.

We met with Jones numerous times and were going to take him before GWS got in front.

You can't just assume it's 'easy' to trade up if there aren't any takers, or the cost is too high.

 

[new breed]

Quite easy as we used pick 23 on Barnett and Darcy Jones was pick 21.

All we needed to do was improve our draft hand by trading pick 23 and a third round for a pick higher up. Say pick 18.
Would of been very easy but we obviously wasn't interested in recruiting Darcy Jones.

We were keen , Darcy Jones wasn't expected to go as high as pick 20 but GWS do draft many WA players , Angove another last draft taking him end of first round .

 

[random260]

And hasn't even played a game yet

Interestingly Langford (who we supposedly wouldve take with 3) had 11 touches at 55% efficiency on the weekend. Some on this board wouldve written his career off already if he was playing for us

26 possesion against gcs. We would only dream of our over aged and built like a man draftee getting to those lofty heights

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Missing the esteemed Murray Newman bodes poorly

Wasn't he taken with a pick in the 20s?

But yes, a dud. And a criminal to boot!

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Sheed's a club legend though.

Is he a player you can build a side around? In the big scheme of things, he's an average player. Can only play well around talent.

Don't ever let me see you resenting the lack of talent that we drafted through that era, essentially resulting in us bottoming out.

It's common knowledge that we didn't have a top 10 draft pick for a decade. The result of success and trading for the now which any club will do when in the flag window. The downside was, our list bottomed out. So let's not pretend the draft is a "lottery". If you have top 5 picks, it's more like you're the house.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Is he a player you can build a side around? In the big scheme of things, he's an average player. Can only play well around talent.

Don't ever let me see you resenting the lack of talent that we drafted through that era, essentially resulting in us bottoming out.

Your original point was around top 5 picks though, which Sheed wasn't.

I do agree we're playing with fire trading away the top 3 picks we've had over the last three years, but Sheed was Pick 11. I'd take his career with Pick 11.

The pick we had originally was 6, which Collingwood used on Matt Scharenberg and his 41 games.

We missed out on Cripps that year but geez Sheed is probably the next best.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Your original point was around top 5 picks though, which Sheed wasn't.

And we didn't have one for 10 years (let alone a top 10 pick). It rooted our list. We're better for it with a flag in the back pocket, but let's not pretend those high picks aren't gold.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Wasn't he taken with a pick in the 20s?

But yes, a dud. And a criminal to boot!

Yeah 23 I think - was first round that year though thanks to expansion club draft compromisation