List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Hook461123]

If we do get pick 2 for Allen, Sharp and Rodriguez could be our Rowell and Anderson.

 

[eaglevision]

As I said several posts ago, he’s clearly torn (at best). Why would he say he’s hopeful of staying when he’s openly courting offers from other clubs?

I agree with your first sentence. In regard to your second sentence for the same reason Barrass, Houston etc did before leaving, which is to placate the media and probably the fan base, particularly after what’s happened.

McQualter can’t say he’s in the club’s long term plans, that’s not his call. It’s the list manager’s. My other original point.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one, the senior coach has a strong (but not by any means exclusive) say on the list. That could be anything on a spectrum of Justin Longmuir to Ross Lyon.

I think weve gone around in circles enough on this, we might have to agree to disagree.

Yep, we can probably move on.

 

[Elite Pete]

If we do get pick 2 for Allen, Sharp and Rodriguez could be our Rowell and Anderson.

Before the season they definitely were heading that way. Need both to show they are a class above during the carnival.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

As I said several posts ago, he’s clearly torn (at best). Why would he say he’s hopeful of staying when he’s openly courting offers from other clubs?



McQualter can’t say he’s in the club’s long term plans, that’s not his call. It’s the list manager’s. My other original point.

I think weve gone around in circles enough on this, we might have to agree to disagree.

This is such a misunderstanding of list management and the mechanics of football department operations more broadly.

Are you saying that McQualter could have a player he wants and the list manager could - theoretically - turn around and unilaterally declare "nope, not offering a contract to that player" and the list managers view would prevail.

At its most extreme we could have the coach wanting Harley Reid and the list manager saying "no, I'd rather trade him for tigers pick 3&4 and future first".

That's an absurd proposition and conceptualises the football department as having discrete roles and functions that are completely unrelated to each other, which is just not how it works.

List management is not a siloed process where one person has sole responsibility for decisions. They make decisions on priorities by committee and the list managers job is to then execute those decisions that have been agreed to, not to make the decisions in isolation.

If the coach thought Oscar was a required player he would express that view in the LM committee, and there would be a discussion on the merits of keeping Oscar v him departing as a free agent, and that view would hold sway and weight. He is the one who has to select the players and coach the team after all.

I'd also point out that the coach and list manager have a common reporting line to Footy department GM who would hold a fair amount of sway in the event that differences in opinion emerged between coach and list manager.

EV is rightly pointing out that often coaches declare their desire for x player to re-sign or to speak about their future at the club beyond their playing contract, the fact McQualter isn't doing that about Oscar is at the very least, interesting, and possibly quite informative.

 

[Quinten Kennedy]

I'm not hating on Tom Cole. He's fine. He's played 120 more games than I have.

Hey, don't beat yourself up. You'll get your chance.

 

[Hook461123]

Before the season they definitely were heading that way. Need both to show they are a class above during the carnival.

They just seem like they’d compliment each other really well. One good on the inside, good hands in tight and at freeing up players. One good on both feet delivering the ball on the outside.
Would be a good one two punch imo.

How many times a game do u see Rowell squirt out a handball into space for Anderson to run on to at speed and deliver.

 

[bitadash]

To play where? Eagles no doubt have interest. Can’t see another midfield where he would be a 100% walk up start.

Thought his form early this year was pretty average. Fumbling a lot and disposal not great. Last 2 weeks I’ve liked what he’s done, it has been as sub so hard to judge.

Nice cheap option imo.

The 2 cheaper mid options id be looking at are Sheldrick and Sam Berry (contracted but probably first one out once Crouch is back) Clearance player and accumulator.

+1
Thought the same on Berry… Barnett offload for their ruck stocks and a 3rd.

 

[maverick001]

I feel like a lot of the discourse in this thread is very detached from reality.

Can’t see any club wanting the off cuts from the 18th placed club.

The Cole equation is a simple question of whether to delist him or offer another contract.

If he leaves West Coast and ends up on another list next year it’s most likely through SSP/DFA.

Exactly my thoughts, all of it

 

[bzparkes]

This is such a misunderstanding of list management and the mechanics of football department operations more broadly.

Are you saying that McQualter could have a player he wants and the list manager could - theoretically - turn around and unilaterally declare "nope, not offering a contract to that player" and the list managers view would prevail.

At its most extreme we could have the coach wanting Harley Reid and the list manager saying "no, I'd rather trade him for tigers pick 3&4 and future first".

That's an absurd proposition and conceptualises the football department as having discrete roles and functions that are completely unrelated to each other, which is just not how it works.

List management is not a siloed process where one person has sole responsibility for decisions. They make decisions on priorities by committee and the list managers job is to then execute those decisions that have been agreed to, not to make the decisions in isolation.

If the coach thought Oscar was a required player he would express that view in the LM committee, and there would be a discussion on the merits of keeping Oscar v him departing as a free agent, and that view would hold sway and weight. He is the one who has to select the players and coach the team after all.

I'd also point out that the coach and list manager have a common reporting line to Footy department GM who would hold a fair amount of sway in the event that differences in opinion emerged between coach and list manager.

EV is rightly pointing out that often coaches declare their desire for x player to re-sign or to speak about their future at the club beyond their playing contract, the fact McQualter isn't doing that about Oscar is at the very least, interesting, and possibly quite informative.

I feel like it's more to do with the contract offered itself, as opposed whether the LM goes against the coaches' wishes of keeping a player.

A good example would be Freo with Schulz.

I've no doubt Longmuir probably would've wanted to keep him, but the LM team low-balled him with his contract, so he left.

 

[Goroyals22]

You can’t possibly make that assumption. Maybe there is, maybe there isn’t. We don’t know what conversations are going on behind closed doors. Don’t recall our interest in Graham becoming public until later in the year.

He’s a premiership defender and still has years of footy. If we don’t need the list spot and there’s no FA compensation on offer for him I’d be more than happy to re-sign him on a 2 year contract.

There is no market for a small
Defender who can’t defend, can’t dispose of the ball by foot with any accuracy over 15 metre sideways kicks and falls over in a contest.

 

[SAweagle]

There is no market for a small
Defender who can’t defend, can’t dispose of the ball by foot with any accuracy over 15 metre sideways kicks and falls over in a contest.

To the elite minds of the WCE list management division that screams 3 year contract with a trigger for 2 more

 

[eaglevision]

There is no market for a small
Defender who can’t defend, can’t dispose of the ball by foot with any accuracy over 15 metre sideways kicks and falls over in a contest.

You forgot closes his eyes tightly before he tackles so he doesn’t even know if the player still has the ball.

In any event, are you prepared to stand by your strong conviction on the matter by changing your avatar to Cole’s moustache if he is on an AFL list next year until he retires?

 

[In The Rod We Trust]

If we do get pick 2 for Allen, Sharp and Rodriguez could be our Rowell and Anderson.

Or sorry to burst that lovely bubble. Our Scully and Trengove eek

 

[Elite Pete]

+1
Thought the same on Berry… Barnett offload for their ruck stocks and a 3rd.

Great mates with Chesser to if he we resign him.

They just seem like they’d compliment each other really well. One good on the inside, good hands in tight and at freeing up players. One good on both feet delivering the ball on the outside.
Would be a good one two punch imo.

How many times a game do u see Rowell squirt out a handball into space for Anderson to run on to at speed and deliver.

Yeah agreed.

A fair chance to be able to bundle up for an 3rd top 10 pick too and get a Duursma, Lindsay or Grlj added to that as well.

Along with Harley + Hewett and Gross. That is a lot of potential and a nice balance.

Pay Darcy Cameron what ever he wants to get that done, while we hunt a for the ruckman 3 years after that.

 

[WCE777]

Great mates with Chesser to if he we resign him. Yeah agreed. A fair chance to be able to bundle up for an 3rd top 10 pick too and get a Duursma, Lindsay or Grlj added to that as well. Along with Harley + Hewett and Gross. That is a lot of potential and a nice balance. Pay Darcy Cameron what ever he wants to get that done, while we hunt a for the ruckman 3 years after that.

Didn't know that about Sheldrick and Chesser?
D Cameron cost will be ok, but we are better off locking him in for next years trade period, can't see Collywobbles letting him go early.
Sheldrick must be super low cost to make it worthwhile, Barnett doesn't really give Sydney much but if it makes a deal happen then that could work.
I agree with your bundle up something to get Lindsay or Gilj, just not seeing it with Duursma.

 

[JackOutback]

Playing backline because McGovern is out BUT the number 1 reason is to give our younger forwards opportunity.
IMO that means Oscar is moving out .

Hope he stays though , extra squad depth is good .

Allen's versatility (and our dearth in quality KPDs) is why he would be valuable to hold on to.

 

[Wce17]

I reckon Mini rates Chesser. He’s made mention a couple of times over the last few weeks about him nearly being back. Looking forward to seeing the role he has him playing

 

[wirra44]

If we do get pick 2 for Allen, Sharp and Rodriguez could be our Rowell and Anderson.

Or our Scully and Trengove

 

[Cuzz09]

Minis gonna turn Chess into Dusty

 

[shoutsatclouds]

Minis gonna turn Chess into Brander

Fixed

 

[bzparkes]

Fixed

Nah, that's what Simmo did

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Didn't know that about Sheldrick and Chesser?
D Cameron cost will be ok, but we are better off locking him in for next years trade period, can't see Collywobbles letting him go early.
Sheldrick must be super low cost to make it worthwhile, Barnett doesn't really give Sydney much but if it makes a deal happen then that could work.
I agree with your bundle up something to get Lindsay or Gilj, just not seeing it with Duursma.

There is no way the Pies are letting Darcy Cameron go this year. THey are in a premiership window, and have no legitimate ruck if he left. Only way could possibly happen is if they have been in Luke Jacksons ear and that's the basis of the trade (plus picks to Freo given age).

 

[mattyc75]

Matty Rowell staying or going , huge decision especially if ends up at Geelong or Collingwood .
Great player .

It's not your call to make if hes a great player or not..

 

[FKASC]

Or our Scully and Trengove

Or sorry to burst that lovely bubble. Our Scully and Trengove eek

Or our Gunston and Bock

 

[Keys]

https://archive.is/z6c18

Nothing ground breaking

• No intentions to open up a second MSD spot by putting Yeo on the inactive list
• Linking us to Parfitt and Sellwood - nobody else mentioned
• McQualter has said we’ll take best available
• Everything else is filler


Parfitt has just turned 27 putting him in the same age bracket as Baker, Graham and Waterman and would give us an experienced mid to replace Sheed as a like for like. Would give us an extra mature body in and around the contest but the downside would be taking away opportunity from the likes of Hall and Gross

Sellwood is younger (22 later this year) and a long kicking half back who is a strong interceptor from my understanding (stand to be corrected). Not sure what is one on one defending is like nor what is pace/agility is like. Would put pressure on Cole but also be competing with Allan for game time

Of the two, I’d be leaning towards Sellwood as a longer term option but wouldn’t be unhappy with Parfitt as he’s in an age bracket we’re short in