List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[WCErevival]

Has there been confirmation of their contract lengths?

 

[Woutizmoo]

McCarthy was best available talent, Newton was rated highly in his draft year prior to his injury and is still rated as a strong prospect by his SANFL club

Both are on the rookie list on short contracts

I don't understand the melts here, the risk factor is quite small with huge potential upside

 

[Obeanie1]

We have got a serious number of Karens or moaning Myrtles on this board.

I actually like the picks today and believe they address a need on our list.

FFS - I have had to work hard and finally managed to get rid of Colin and Colin esq posters and now we have a bunch of Karens venting!

Newton is a forward who can play serious midfield minutes and missed a very deep draft due to injury in his draft year. Why would we have a bunch of Karens worried while their petticoats are igniting.

What I found interesting is the position he plays we have multiple nga kids lining up who also play that position. Several we will likely select this draft.

Cripps has maybe another year, Rawlingson and Petro should be very nervous. So that is three medium / small forwards likely gone.

Also by not looking at rucks we must have other plans in place there either via trade or the draft.

 

[Farmer Lister]

We have got a serious number of Karens or moaning Myrtles on this board.

I actually like the picks today and believe they address a need on our list.

FFS - I have had to work hard and finally managed to get rid of Colin and Colin esq posters and now we have a bunch of Karens venting!

Newton is a forward who can play serious midfield minutes and missed a very deep draft due to injury in his draft year. Why would we have a bunch of Karens worried while their petticoats are igniting.

Unfortunately Asterix a lot of people seem hooked on negativity. It's an easy trap to fall into and it can be a hard habit to break. Seems wild to me to not even pause to enjoy the sugar hit high for five minutes before rending your garments.

 

[Spooky17]

Has there been confirmation of their contract lengths?

McCarthy is 18 months. I believe Newton is 6.

 

[Dark Sharks]

I think anyone negative about one, or both of the recent draftees either

A) Had a certain player in mind. Like Parfitt, which would've been stupid if you ask me. We've got Gross, Hall and Grego starved of midfield opportunity at AFL level and we're going to add another C grade mid for them to compete with? Why? But what would I know.

Or B) Are totally clueless to what was actually available and worth getting in the MSD this year. "We don't need another HBF, we need a ruckman idiots!!!" Without realising there was no viable ruck option. Just like there was no rolled gold mid option running around.

The fact is these selections are pretty bottom of the barrel stuff. Anyone expecting them to come in and save our team and instantly make us better are misguided. It's a free swing worth taking

 

[eaglevision]

Another one to cross off the list.

 

[Astro7]

I think anyone negative about one, or both of the recent draftees either

A) Had a certain player in mind. Like Parfitt, which would've been stupid if you ask me. We've got Gross, Hall and Grego starved of midfield opportunity at AFL level and we're going to add another C grade mid for them to compete with? Why? But what would I know.

Or B) Are totally clueless to what was actually available and worth getting in the MSD this year. "We don't need another HBF, we need a ruckman idiots!!!" Without realising there was no viable ruck option. Just like there was no rolled gold mid option running around.

The fact is these selections are pretty bottom of the barrel stuff. Anyone expecting them to come in and save our team and instantly make us better are misguided. It's a free swing worth taking

True enough. The coach repeatedly said they take the best available player (regardless of position). It's pretty simple in a low grade selection, you get the best of an ordinary bunch, not afforded the luxury of shopping for KPP's to fill a need...and how many good rucks would be left available at that level, given the risky nature and maturation of a ruckman. Would have their eyes on somebody/something in the pipeline already you'd think.

But these two look potentially promising, both have a serious set of wheels, could help lift our game. A McCarthy and a mini McCarthy,(a Temu Judd and a Temu Kerr at a looong stretch?) with pace, clean hands and good overhead. A HB/mid and a HF/mid. Might be handy. Might get lucky. And if their wheels fall off, nothing lost, the real deal is with the trade/draft period.

 

[Dark Sharks]

One that got away

 

[Happy Mastenator]

We get 50 games combined out of these two we've reached expectation.

We get 100 games combined out of these two we've done well.

We get 200 games combined out of those two we should do cart wheels

 

[CountryLad]

Another one to cross off the list.

Bugger

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

McCarthy is 18 months. I believe Newton is 6.

Confirmation of this from Cal Twomey:

 

[Boohemian]

An 18 month contract really should be the norm. Gives the player a greater chance to succeed with an AFL level preseason.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

An 18 month contract really should be the norm. Gives the player a greater chance to succeed with an AFL level preseason.

Meh, if they show enough they'll be extended, if not, then you don't want them clogging a list.

They get a taste, know what they have to do and can end up on a list through the SSP during preseason anyway.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

So here is the write up from last year on Jacob Newton from RMC


SNAPSHOT: “A hard-working small who is tough in the contest and productive both as a midfielder and a forward” – Micah Hann

Jacob Newton may have flown under the radar heading into the 2024 season, but a strong Under 18 National Championships has him firming as a legitimate draft chance come November. The small inside midfielder turned pacy half-forward was a bright spot for an otherwise disappointing South Australian side.

Newton showed off some transferrable AFL skills, proving to be an opportunist in front of goal who was equally committed to applying himself defensively as a pressure forward. The Norwood and Rostrevor product earned the Ron Coleman Award for South Australia’s Best Team Man, capping off a strong carnival in which he also managed six goals, to be South Australia’s second leading goalkicker.

Managing just a handful of games at SANFL Under 18 level as he balanced school football commitments, Newton did his best work for Norwood through the midfield where he proved to be difficult to slow at stoppages, highlighted by a 10-clearance outing in Round 1 against North Adelaide.

Despite spending the majority of his time in the centre of the ground, Newton occasionally rested forward where he was equally dangerous, averaging more than a goal a game. A foot injury kept Newton out of testing at the 2024 National Draft Combine, where he would’ve loved to have shown off his athletic ability, having tested strongly in the 20m sprint and vertical jumps in preseason.



STRENGTHS:

• Clean hands
• Overheard marking
• Power
• Scoreboard impact
• Speed
• Versatility

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Ceiling
• Size

In a competition that values speed, pressure and scoreboard impact, Newton’s transition from midfielder to impactful forward has opened a pathway to the next level. He combines high-end speed with a thirst for the contest and a commitment to do the work required of a defensive forward.

Despite these traits, he’s not a one-dimensional small forward. Newton is strong overheard for his size, using his leaping ability to meet the ball at the highest point and regularly out-mark taller opponents. He’s clean below his knees and has great goal-sense, often finishing in front of the big sticks with very little time and space. He consistently makes the most of his goal-scoring opportunities, finding the goals in a variety of ways; through set shots, forward 50 stoppages and in open play.

Despite limited opportunities at the National Championships, Newton proved to be equally capable as a midfielder throughout his junior career. Thriving at stoppages, the Redleg proved a capable first possession winner using his speed and deceptive strength to power through contact and create separation from his opponent. A one-touch player whether he’s taking the ball in the air or off the ground, Newton rarely fumbles making him hard to corral. When second to the football, he brings intensity and defensive pressure, making it difficult for his direct opponent to secure clean possession.

Standing at 179cm, you could argue Newton’s lack of size potentially limits his ceiling as a player. However his speed and athletic attributes should allow him to successfully carve out a role at AFL level if given the opportunity. A highly regarded teammate, clubs will value Newton’s team-first attitude and willingness to step into less-heralded roles for the benefit of the team.

DRAFT RANGE: Late/Rookie

SUMMARY

Newton’s success this season in a difficult forward half role could propel him onto an AFL list. He’s dependable and possesses all the traits required to be an impactful forward half player at the next level. While the depth of this draft will likely see some unlucky prospects miss out on fulfilling their dreams, Newton has put his best foot forward and will hope that it’s enough to earn himself a chance at an AFL club come November.



For all those Karens out there - what is not to like about a left foot (harder to defend) tough contested mid who is a proven goal kicker and due to his size being 179 cm (that is 5"10.5' in the old measurement), he has made a small forward his own. A player who looked great in his draft year until he copped an injury and missed out being drafted in what was considered one of the deepest drafts in a long time!

Welcome about Jacob. I like the pick.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

With 46 players now on our list, I thought it time to update the age by position chart

 

[Feeling Groovy]

Unfortunately Asterix a lot of people seem hooked on negativity. It's an easy trap to fall into and it can be a hard habit to break. Seems wild to me to not even pause to enjoy the sugar hit high for five minutes before rending your garments.

Particularly when most have never seen the player live and have based their opinion on 30 seconds of highlights, which they have used to make a comparison against some player on our list they deem a spud.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Karen the new bed wetter it seems.

 

[WCE777]

So here is the write up from last year on Jacob Newton from RMC


SNAPSHOT: “A hard-working small who is tough in the contest and productive both as a midfielder and a forward” – Micah Hann

Jacob Newton may have flown under the radar heading into the 2024 season, but a strong Under 18 National Championships has him firming as a legitimate draft chance come November. The small inside midfielder turned pacy half-forward was a bright spot for an otherwise disappointing South Australian side.

Newton showed off some transferrable AFL skills, proving to be an opportunist in front of goal who was equally committed to applying himself defensively as a pressure forward. The Norwood and Rostrevor product earned the Ron Coleman Award for South Australia’s Best Team Man, capping off a strong carnival in which he also managed six goals, to be South Australia’s second leading goalkicker.

Managing just a handful of games at SANFL Under 18 level as he balanced school football commitments, Newton did his best work for Norwood through the midfield where he proved to be difficult to slow at stoppages, highlighted by a 10-clearance outing in Round 1 against North Adelaide.

Despite spending the majority of his time in the centre of the ground, Newton occasionally rested forward where he was equally dangerous, averaging more than a goal a game. A foot injury kept Newton out of testing at the 2024 National Draft Combine, where he would’ve loved to have shown off his athletic ability, having tested strongly in the 20m sprint and vertical jumps in preseason.



STRENGTHS:

• Clean hands
• Overheard marking
• Power
• Scoreboard impact
• Speed
• Versatility

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Ceiling
• Size

In a competition that values speed, pressure and scoreboard impact, Newton’s transition from midfielder to impactful forward has opened a pathway to the next level. He combines high-end speed with a thirst for the contest and a commitment to do the work required of a defensive forward.

Despite these traits, he’s not a one-dimensional small forward. Newton is strong overheard for his size, using his leaping ability to meet the ball at the highest point and regularly out-mark taller opponents. He’s clean below his knees and has great goal-sense, often finishing in front of the big sticks with very little time and space. He consistently makes the most of his goal-scoring opportunities, finding the goals in a variety of ways; through set shots, forward 50 stoppages and in open play.

Despite limited opportunities at the National Championships, Newton proved to be equally capable as a midfielder throughout his junior career. Thriving at stoppages, the Redleg proved a capable first possession winner using his speed and deceptive strength to power through contact and create separation from his opponent. A one-touch player whether he’s taking the ball in the air or off the ground, Newton rarely fumbles making him hard to corral. When second to the football, he brings intensity and defensive pressure, making it difficult for his direct opponent to secure clean possession.

Standing at 179cm, you could argue Newton’s lack of size potentially limits his ceiling as a player. However his speed and athletic attributes should allow him to successfully carve out a role at AFL level if given the opportunity. A highly regarded teammate, clubs will value Newton’s team-first attitude and willingness to step into less-heralded roles for the benefit of the team.

DRAFT RANGE: Late/Rookie

SUMMARY

Newton’s success this season in a difficult forward half role could propel him onto an AFL list. He’s dependable and possesses all the traits required to be an impactful forward half player at the next level. While the depth of this draft will likely see some unlucky prospects miss out on fulfilling their dreams, Newton has put his best foot forward and will hope that it’s enough to earn himself a chance at an AFL club come November.



For all those Karens out there - what is not to like about a left foot (harder to defend) tough contested mid who is a proven goal kicker and due to his size being 179 cm (that is 5"10.5' in the old measurement), he has made a small forward his own. A player who looked great in his draft year until he copped an injury and missed out being drafted in what was considered one of the deepest drafts in a long time!

Welcome about Jacob. I like the pick.

Cheers for putting this up.
I also like the pick, didn't know anything about him until we picked him, but everything we have seen and read from those who seemed to know have rated him VERY highly.
Would have gone early 2nd round if not for his injury.
If he brings his talent to our team we will have a ripper!

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Karen the new bed wetter it seems.

Not quite. I am calling them Karens because they always find something to bitch and complain about.

Bed Wetters are another thing. They are more the Chicken Littles of this world waiting for the sky to fall down

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Not quite. I am calling them Karens because they always find something to bitch and complain about.

Bed Wetters are another thing. They are more the Chicken Littles of this world waiting for the sky to fall down

I mean as the insult of the month.

Keen to see what comes next.

2024 national draft: bed wetters
2025 midseason draft: Karens
2025 national draft: ???

 

[Astro7]

So here is the write up from last year on Jacob Newton from RMC


SNAPSHOT: “A hard-working small who is tough in the contest and productive both as a midfielder and a forward” – Micah Hann

Jacob Newton may have flown under the radar heading into the 2024 season, but a strong Under 18 National Championships has him firming as a legitimate draft chance come November. The small inside midfielder turned pacy half-forward was a bright spot for an otherwise disappointing South Australian side.

Newton showed off some transferrable AFL skills, proving to be an opportunist in front of goal who was equally committed to applying himself defensively as a pressure forward. The Norwood and Rostrevor product earned the Ron Coleman Award for South Australia’s Best Team Man, capping off a strong carnival in which he also managed six goals, to be South Australia’s second leading goalkicker.

Managing just a handful of games at SANFL Under 18 level as he balanced school football commitments, Newton did his best work for Norwood through the midfield where he proved to be difficult to slow at stoppages, highlighted by a 10-clearance outing in Round 1 against North Adelaide.

Despite spending the majority of his time in the centre of the ground, Newton occasionally rested forward where he was equally dangerous, averaging more than a goal a game. A foot injury kept Newton out of testing at the 2024 National Draft Combine, where he would’ve loved to have shown off his athletic ability, having tested strongly in the 20m sprint and vertical jumps in preseason.



STRENGTHS:

• Clean hands
• Overheard marking
• Power
• Scoreboard impact
• Speed
• Versatility

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Ceiling
• Size

In a competition that values speed, pressure and scoreboard impact, Newton’s transition from midfielder to impactful forward has opened a pathway to the next level. He combines high-end speed with a thirst for the contest and a commitment to do the work required of a defensive forward.

Despite these traits, he’s not a one-dimensional small forward. Newton is strong overheard for his size, using his leaping ability to meet the ball at the highest point and regularly out-mark taller opponents. He’s clean below his knees and has great goal-sense, often finishing in front of the big sticks with very little time and space. He consistently makes the most of his goal-scoring opportunities, finding the goals in a variety of ways; through set shots, forward 50 stoppages and in open play.

Despite limited opportunities at the National Championships, Newton proved to be equally capable as a midfielder throughout his junior career. Thriving at stoppages, the Redleg proved a capable first possession winner using his speed and deceptive strength to power through contact and create separation from his opponent. A one-touch player whether he’s taking the ball in the air or off the ground, Newton rarely fumbles making him hard to corral. When second to the football, he brings intensity and defensive pressure, making it difficult for his direct opponent to secure clean possession.

Standing at 179cm, you could argue Newton’s lack of size potentially limits his ceiling as a player. However his speed and athletic attributes should allow him to successfully carve out a role at AFL level if given the opportunity. A highly regarded teammate, clubs will value Newton’s team-first attitude and willingness to step into less-heralded roles for the benefit of the team.

DRAFT RANGE: Late/Rookie

SUMMARY

Newton’s success this season in a difficult forward half role could propel him onto an AFL list. He’s dependable and possesses all the traits required to be an impactful forward half player at the next level. While the depth of this draft will likely see some unlucky prospects miss out on fulfilling their dreams, Newton has put his best foot forward and will hope that it’s enough to earn himself a chance at an AFL club come November.



For all those Karens out there - what is not to like about a left foot (harder to defend) tough contested mid who is a proven goal kicker and due to his size being 179 cm (that is 5"10.5' in the old measurement), he has made a small forward his own. A player who looked great in his draft year until he copped an injury and missed out being drafted in what was considered one of the deepest drafts in a long time!

Welcome about Jacob. I like the pick.

Who's Karen?
Seriously, he sounds amazing in that write up...already our next coach!
The good thing about McCarthy is he fits right into the 'cherry ripe' age group (plugn'play) which we need. Didn't realise Hunt was an elder statesman already.
Players like Gross, Hall, Grego, Allan will take some time yet.
Newton looks like he could maybe slot in sooner...early days.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

I can't imagine what 90% of the questions that are gonna be sent in are gonna be

 

[WCE777]

With 46 players now on our list, I thought it time to update the age by position chart


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Geez you do a lot of work and analysis.
Cheers for your work.

Adding these 2 MSD players starts putting pressure on list spots really quickly.
I would be surprised if WC haven't already got the majority of their delisting/trading thoughts in place and really coming down to whether D Cameron & Gov are on the list next year.
For list spots I think Gov is probably he easy one, he either plays on or is replaced with a trade or draftee.

Looks increasingly likely if we want to draft 2-3 players plus 3 NGA/FS we are going to need 8 list spots if D Cameron comes, max 44 and currently 46 on list.
Delist/trade/retire
Jamieson, Cripps, Sheed, Petch, Rawlinson.
Delist and pay out Barnett.
Hunt, Bazzo, Chesser, Livingstone are vying for 2 spots if Cameron arrives or 3 if he doesn't.
This assumption is based on O Allen stays which I believe he will, sign a 4-5 year deal on our terms.
If OA goes then we just draft another elite mid, so nil all effect.
Think that basically works?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

They didn’t even try to trade up!

Turns out if it was 12 months later they could have tried…