List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

[Keys]

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Cuzz09]

Turns out if it was 12 months later they could have tried…

lol doubt anyone will do that

 

[bzparkes]

lol doubt anyone will do that

Collingwould.

 

[Scotland]

An 18 month contract really should be the norm. Gives the player a greater chance to succeed with an AFL level preseason.

I think 6 is OK but depends on the terms.

Not that I can kick a footy but I wouldn't move cross country for half a season to make less money than I do now. If I was an 18 year old Ryan Maric sure, but if I was 25 and had a career etc. it's different.

AFAIK a rookie contract is $100k, so if you sign on for 6 months do you just get $50k? There are only 12 games left so your opportunities for match payments are pretty low for a new guy coming in.

 

[Keys]

Turns out if it was 12 months later they could have tried…

First step towards a mid season trade period I fear - trading MSD picks sort of makes sense but trading players can get in the bin

lol doubt anyone will do that

Collingwould.

Yeah Collingwood seemed very keen on May and one of the Bulldogs or Port probably would’ve gladly taken a late R2 or R3 pick to swap spots in the MSD with Collingwood.

 

[WCE777]

First step towards a mid season trade period I fear - trading MSD picks sort of makes sense but trading players can get in the bin





Yeah Collingwood seemed very keen on May and one of the Bulldogs or Port probably would’ve gladly taken a late R2 or R3 pick to swap spots in the MSD with Collingwood.

have too agree, trading players in the MSD can get stuffed, no benefit for anyone outside Vic and there are plenty of places to draft/trade players now.

 

[Scotland]

I think anyone negative about one, or both of the recent draftees either

A) Had a certain player in mind. Like Parfitt, which would've been stupid if you ask me. We've got Gross, Hall and Grego starved of midfield opportunity at AFL level and we're going to add another C grade mid for them to compete with? Why? But what would I know.

Or B) Are totally clueless to what was actually available and worth getting in the MSD this year. "We don't need another HBF, we need a ruckman idiots!!!" Without realising there was no viable ruck option. Just like there was no rolled gold mid option running around.

The fact is these selections are pretty bottom of the barrel stuff. Anyone expecting them to come in and save our team and instantly make us better are misguided. It's a free swing worth taking

I feel for guys like Parfitt. He's 27 and has played 130 games, and is crushing it at WAFL level. He is AFL standard and there are players on AFL every list that are worse.

If we had Parfitt on our list from the 2016 draft, he would be in our team right now. But we aren't going to add a 27 year old to our list unless we give up pick 3... bringing him in would just take away opportunity from the likes of Gross and Hall who we want to see in the seniors.

Between the ND, PSD, RD and MSD it's a bit of a mess. The ND is your shot at elite young talent. The others don't really serve specific purposes. When the MSD came back I was hoping that more players like Parfitt would get an opportunity. But it is still just mostly just prospects being drafted, albeit a couple of them are 25 and older.

I would like to see clubs have up to say Rd 10 to place players on the inactive list and sign replacements. If you've been on an AFL list or have nominated for the draft and previously and been overlooked you can sign until the end of the season as a replacement player and if the club wants to keep you then you just stay on the list.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Collingwood missing out on Archer May was arguably the highlight of the MSD for mine.

"They've put so much time into himmmmmmmmm..."

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Turns out if it was 12 months later they could have tried…

Soon it’ll be shit teams trading their remaining decent players for a national draft pick haul and a token MSD pick to meet the requirement as a way to do midseason trades. Can’t wait (I can, it’ll be gross).

 

[Scotland]

What is the protocol so sign a player to the WC Beagles list?

Clubs should start adding players to their reserves sides then arguing that they deserve priority access to them because they developed them. Just for shits and gigs.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

What is the protocol so sign a player to the WC Beagles list?

By the state of our top ups, it seems they go to local primary schools and ask who owns a pair of boots.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

So here is the write up from last year on Jacob Newton from RMC


SNAPSHOT: “A hard-working small who is tough in the contest and productive both as a midfielder and a forward” – Micah Hann

Jacob Newton may have flown under the radar heading into the 2024 season, but a strong Under 18 National Championships has him firming as a legitimate draft chance come November. The small inside midfielder turned pacy half-forward was a bright spot for an otherwise disappointing South Australian side.

Newton showed off some transferrable AFL skills, proving to be an opportunist in front of goal who was equally committed to applying himself defensively as a pressure forward. The Norwood and Rostrevor product earned the Ron Coleman Award for South Australia’s Best Team Man, capping off a strong carnival in which he also managed six goals, to be South Australia’s second leading goalkicker.

Managing just a handful of games at SANFL Under 18 level as he balanced school football commitments, Newton did his best work for Norwood through the midfield where he proved to be difficult to slow at stoppages, highlighted by a 10-clearance outing in Round 1 against North Adelaide.

Despite spending the majority of his time in the centre of the ground, Newton occasionally rested forward where he was equally dangerous, averaging more than a goal a game. A foot injury kept Newton out of testing at the 2024 National Draft Combine, where he would’ve loved to have shown off his athletic ability, having tested strongly in the 20m sprint and vertical jumps in preseason.



STRENGTHS:

• Clean hands
• Overheard marking
• Power
• Scoreboard impact
• Speed
• Versatility

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Ceiling
• Size

In a competition that values speed, pressure and scoreboard impact, Newton’s transition from midfielder to impactful forward has opened a pathway to the next level. He combines high-end speed with a thirst for the contest and a commitment to do the work required of a defensive forward.

Despite these traits, he’s not a one-dimensional small forward. Newton is strong overheard for his size, using his leaping ability to meet the ball at the highest point and regularly out-mark taller opponents. He’s clean below his knees and has great goal-sense, often finishing in front of the big sticks with very little time and space. He consistently makes the most of his goal-scoring opportunities, finding the goals in a variety of ways; through set shots, forward 50 stoppages and in open play.

Despite limited opportunities at the National Championships, Newton proved to be equally capable as a midfielder throughout his junior career. Thriving at stoppages, the Redleg proved a capable first possession winner using his speed and deceptive strength to power through contact and create separation from his opponent. A one-touch player whether he’s taking the ball in the air or off the ground, Newton rarely fumbles making him hard to corral. When second to the football, he brings intensity and defensive pressure, making it difficult for his direct opponent to secure clean possession.

Standing at 179cm, you could argue Newton’s lack of size potentially limits his ceiling as a player. However his speed and athletic attributes should allow him to successfully carve out a role at AFL level if given the opportunity. A highly regarded teammate, clubs will value Newton’s team-first attitude and willingness to step into less-heralded roles for the benefit of the team.

DRAFT RANGE: Late/Rookie

SUMMARY

Newton’s success this season in a difficult forward half role could propel him onto an AFL list. He’s dependable and possesses all the traits required to be an impactful forward half player at the next level. While the depth of this draft will likely see some unlucky prospects miss out on fulfilling their dreams, Newton has put his best foot forward and will hope that it’s enough to earn himself a chance at an AFL club come November.



For all those Karens out there - what is not to like about a left foot (harder to defend) tough contested mid who is a proven goal kicker and due to his size being 179 cm (that is 5"10.5' in the old measurement), he has made a small forward his own. A player who looked great in his draft year until he copped an injury and missed out being drafted in what was considered one of the deepest drafts in a long time!

Welcome about Jacob. I like the pick.

Well he has certainly improved his size.
Once hw gets his fitness back up for continuous midfield minutes, he will be a hard match up.

Him and Grego could be the tackling bash brothers for us in the middle.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Geez you do a lot of work and analysis.
Cheers for your work.

Adding these 2 MSD players starts putting pressure on list spots really quickly.
I would be surprised if WC haven't already got the majority of their delisting/trading thoughts in place and really coming down to whether D Cameron & Gov are on the list next year.
For list spots I think Gov is probably he easy one, he either plays on or is replaced with a trade or draftee.

Looks increasingly likely if we want to draft 2-3 players plus 3 NGA/FS we are going to need 8 list spots if D Cameron comes, max 44 and currently 46 on list.
Delist/trade/retire
Jamieson, Cripps, Sheed, Petch, Rawlinson.
Delist and pay out Barnett.
Hunt, Bazzo, Chesser, Livingstone are vying for 2 spots if Cameron arrives or 3 if he doesn't.
This assumption is based on O Allen stays which I believe he will, sign a 4-5 year deal on our terms.
If OA goes then we just draft another elite mid, so nil all effect.
Think that basically works?

McCarthy is going to put pressure on both Chesser and Hunt. Tom is ready to go and can play the running half back or the wing role that both Chesser and Hunt are playing (former only in rehab).

The list squeeze is real and that is why asking the AFL for additional list spots makes sense.
1. We have had our R2 picks sitting at 30 the last 2 years meaning our selections are higher risk.
2. We want to get more indigenous participation.

If we were to get 4 rookie spots 2 for general rookies and 2 for Cat B type positions, we could keep Livingstone on it, then draft Cato, Evans and Walley. We also have Williams and Montgomery on the NGA list but as it stands now, they are even more speculative.

 

[WCE777]

McCarthy is going to put pressure on both Chesser and Hunt. Tom is ready to go and can play the running half back or the wing role that both Chesser and Hunt are playing (former only in rehab).

The list squeeze is real and that is why asking the AFL for additional list spots makes sense.
1. We have had our R2 picks sitting at 30 the last 2 years meaning our selections are higher risk.
2. We want to get more indigenous participation.

If we were to get 4 rookie spots 2 for general rookies and 2 for Cat B type positions, we could keep Livingstone on it, then draft Cato, Evans and Walley. We also have Williams and Montgomery on the NGA list but as it stands now, they are even more speculative.

Totally agree.
It would be appropriate to have at least 2 more rookie spots for WA clubs because of the travel factor and it would totally increase the indigenous participation if we could choose to have them on either standard rookie or Cat B.
I agree Hunt would be the most vulnerable and then Chesser based on his second half of the season.
Bazzo deserves a 1 year extension to see what he has and we are short of defenders, Livingstone deserves another contract, has been improving rapidly for someone of his size.

 

[new breed]

Maybe Eagles could look at Arthur Jones from WB , out of contract adds more speed , talent to the list , pretty difficult getting into the W Bulldogs line up .

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Unfortunately Asterix a lot of people seem hooked on negativity. It's an easy trap to fall into and it can be a hard habit to break. Seems wild to me to not even pause to enjoy the sugar hit high for five minutes before rending your garments.

Yes but if you bring this fact to the attention of the board, apparently YOU'RE whinging.

Honestly gets so bloody tiresome to read. It's why I take a few days break after a loss. I have enough negativity in my day to day life as it is. Footy is something that brings positivity and a bit of hope to my life in doses where I need it. And yes, I'm aware of the irony of supporting West Coast on that front.

Anyway, hope these two young lads do well. I was pleasantly surprised with our second pick in particular. Jacob Newton has some traits

STRENGTHS:

• Clean hands
• Overheard marking
• Power
• Scoreboard impact
• Speed
• Versatility

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Ceiling
• Size

Jacob Newton Draft Profile

Norwood's Jacob Newton is a tough, hard-working small prospect capable of holding his own both in midfield and up forward.

central.rookieme.com

 

[darksquare]

One thing I like about our MSD pickups is that they aren't players who need to be on ball to play their best football. History shows that when you pick an on-baller in the MSD, you're more likely to get a Greg-Clark-level player than you are Jai Newcombe.

DEF-MID (McCarthy) and FWD-MID (Newton) are much more likely to find roles in our AFL side. For pure mids, we'll need to use our top-5 picks.

 

[bzparkes]

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Ceiling
• Size

Not sure about this.

Why would he need a bigger ceiling if his size is an issue?

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Not sure about this.

Why would he need a bigger ceiling if his size is an issue?

I just assume he needs to lower his ceiling, as his potential is too great for anyone to comprehend.

 

[FKASC]

Not sure about this.

Why would he need a bigger ceiling if his size is an issue?

Not sure if draft profile or house hunters australia TM

 

[FKASC]

One thing I like about our MSD pickups is that they aren't players who need to be on ball to play their best football. History shows that when you pick an on-baller in the MSD, you're more likely to get a Greg-Clark-level player than you are Jai Newcombe.

DEF-MID (McCarthy) and FWD-MID (Newton) are much more likely to find roles in our AFL side. For pure mids, we'll need to use our top-5 picks.

Agree

 

[Elite Pete]

We had 2 weeks off the Harley back to Vic talk.

In this theory we could have the first 5 picks in the draft (but no Harley or Oscar).

I don’t think if he leaves he goes to Richmond but would be an
Interesting draft night

 

[Elite Pete]

We had 2 weeks off the Harley back to Vic talk.

In this theory we could have the first 5 picks in the draft (but no Harley or Oscar).

I don’t think if he leaves he goes to Richmond but would be an
Interesting draft night.

 

[Spod]

We had 2 weeks off the Harley back to Vic talk.

In this theory we could have the first 5 picks in the draft (but no Harley or Oscar).

I don’t think if he leaves he goes to Richmond but would be an
Interesting draft night.

Would probably be as good as we can hope for without involving a star player coming back but it remains very unclear to me why Harley would supposedly be desperate to leave us to go to another bottom team. Seems very presumptive about him just wanting to be in Melbourne at all costs.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Would probably be as good as we can hope for without involving a star player coming back but it remains very unclear to me why Harley would supposedly be desperate to leave us to go to another bottom team. Seems very presumptive about him just wanting to be in Melbourne at all costs.

I think what is built in to the assumption is Tigers will avoid a king and depressing time at the bottom as they have acquired a lot of young talent already.

I doubt you’ll find many (if any) people taking our list over Richmond’s at this point in time.

whether that is reactionary or not is yet to be determined, but Tiges have far exceeded everyone’s expectations and we have been quite dreadful at times.

 

[Elite Pete]

I think what is built in to the assumption is Tigers will avoid a king and depressing time at the bottom as they have acquired a lot of young talent already.

I doubt you’ll find many (if any) people taking our list over Richmond’s at this point in time.

whether that is reactionary or not is yet to be determined, but Tiges have far exceeded everyone’s expectations and we have been quite dreadful at times.

Not much difference this year imo. They probably stole 2 games they shouldn’t have won but they did. Wins change the views of which is the business they are in. I’m f we had of won those Richmond and Essendon games it’s a completey different view imo.

Not sure their 22yo and below are any better than ours atm. All their heavy lifting is done by the 25yo+. Plus they have been pretty lucky with injuries after last year.

I still don’t think he leaves to go to a rebuilding Richmond.