List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[MeltMan]

They are gonna look mighty confused when Cripps says if you get the ball give it to Ryan wherever he is…

I think they'd be surprised for crips to say anything other than fail to pick up the ball for like 5 m and then take a shot regardless of whoever else might be in a better position

 

[RookiePick]

As i've before said there are worse players on the main list than Cripps that should be delisted/rookied before him.
Why is everyone jumping on the rookie list Cripps bandwagon ?

Because Crippa is at the right stage of his career - age, time left in career, family responsibilities - that it is extremely low risk anyone would risk calling his name out. It's the safest delist/rerookie available to us, it gives us more flexibility in what we take to the draft, it won't cost Jamie a penny or impact how many games he can play at AFL level.

Wins all round.

 

[Keys]

As i've before said there are worse players on the main list than Cripps that should be delisted/rookied before him.
Why is everyone jumping on the rookie list Cripps bandwagon ?

It’s been explained multiple times why Cripps is the most suitable player to be moved to the rookie list to open up an extra main list position

I’ll try to simplify it even further for you -
• There’s no correlation between ability and being on the rookie list
• There’s no restrictions on being on the rookie list and being selected
• There’s no impact on what Cripps can earn if he’s on the rookie list

In a practical sense there’s zero difference between being on the rookie or main list.

There is a difference when it comes to the draft and how we add players to the list which is where that extra spot would be useful

 

[Coasters7]

Ah Chee, Hollands, Phillips all available for nothing.

Normally not a fan of dregs off other teams but this is a unique situation. Extra list spots and the current objective is to just raise the floor of the list. Should be doing everything in our power to get at least the first two.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

As i've before said there are worse players on the main list than Cripps that should be delisted/rookied before him.
Why is everyone jumping on the rookie list Cripps bandwagon ?

The benefits of demoting Cripps, a guy in his 30s heading into what is likely his final season, instead of a younger player have been explained multiple times.

• The younger player would become a free agent for life.
• The younger player would run the risk of getting poached by another club.

Cripps and Ryan scored around 46 goals between them last year, Waterman will have to have a 50 plus goals season to make up for them.
Besides Jake who are going to be our goalkickers next season and are they going to contribute 20 plus goals ?

Shanahan?

And Cripps will still be on the list and available for senior selection.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Yeah, but putting Cripps on the rookie list is disrespectful because REASONS!!!

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Yeah, but putting Cripps on the rookie list is disrespectful because REASONS!!!

But Sydney doing the same thing to a former captain in Rampe and a dual best and fairest winner in Lloyd is not the same, also because REASONS!!

 

[Mr Q]

As i've before said there are worse players on the main list than Cripps that should be delisted/rookied before him.
Why is everyone jumping on the rookie list Cripps bandwagon ?

Because he's the absolutely most obvious player:

1. At 34, he's close to zero risk that any other club would take him - this is not true of someone like Yeo for instance. Other clubs would be aware that Cripps would be more likely to retire than move. If Elliot Yeo plays less than 10 games this year, I'd be wanting to do the same with him next year for the last year of his contract (assuming he doesn't just retire)
2. Unlike other players, he won't be a risk that delisting him makes him a career free agent (it does, but he's not going anywhere else, he'll be retiring) - this is why Cripps ahead of Barnett or Johnston.
3. He will only play one, maybe two more years, then retire, so being on the rookie list frees up a spot for a longer term player who we need on the main list (and that also fits nicely with the temporary nature of the extra rookie spots we have)

Being on the rookie list isn't a commentary on Cripps's abilities, it's a comment on his age and the shape of our list, where we can get a space freed up if Cripps moves that would allow us more flexibility. If we need an additional spot for a bid match we need to make, Cripps would leave that.

 

[mattyc75]

Because he's the absolutely most obvious player:

1. At 34, he's close to zero risk that any other club would take him - this is not true of someone like Yeo for instance. Other clubs would be aware that Cripps would be more likely to retire than move. If Elliot Yeo plays less than 10 games this year, I'd be wanting to do the same with him next year for the last year of his contract (assuming he doesn't just retire)
2. Unlike other players, he won't be a risk that delisting him makes him a career free agent (it does, but he's not going anywhere else, he'll be retiring) - this is why Cripps ahead of Barnett or Johnston.
3. He will only play one, maybe two more years, then retire, so being on the rookie list frees up a spot for a longer term player who we need on the main list (and that also fits nicely with the temporary nature of the extra rookie spots we have)

Being on the rookie list isn't a commentary on Cripps's abilities, it's a comment on his age and the shape of our list, where we can get a space freed up if Cripps moves that would allow us more flexibility. If we need an additional spot for a bid match we need to make, Cripps would leave that.

If yeo plays less than 10 games this year i hope he retires

 

[JackOutback]

Could someone please just explain the reasons for putting Cripps on the rookie list.

 

[txbyhull]

Could someone please just explain the reasons for putting Cripps on the rookie list.

Because he's the absolutely most obvious player:

1. At 34, he's close to zero risk that any other club would take him - this is not true of someone like Yeo for instance. Other clubs would be aware that Cripps would be more likely to retire than move. If Elliot Yeo plays less than 10 games this year, I'd be wanting to do the same with him next year for the last year of his contract (assuming he doesn't just retire)
2. Unlike other players, he won't be a risk that delisting him makes him a career free agent (it does, but he's not going anywhere else, he'll be retiring) - this is why Cripps ahead of Barnett or Johnston.
3. He will only play one, maybe two more years, then retire, so being on the rookie list frees up a spot for a longer term player who we need on the main list (and that also fits nicely with the temporary nature of the extra rookie spots we have)

Being on the rookie list isn't a commentary on Cripps's abilities, it's a comment on his age and the shape of our list, where we can get a space freed up if Cripps moves that would allow us more flexibility. If we need an additional spot for a bid match we need to make, Cripps would leave that.

here you go JackOutback

The rookie list has no impact on or tie to playing time, ability, contract length, contract price etc.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

This is all well and good, but why is no one providing any actual reasons to put Cripps on the rookie list?

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Has a club ever delisted a player with the promise to pick them and then passed on them for someone else when their pick has come?

Was it fremantle to take port Adelaide's Francis but then it came out it would exceed their cap and then they couldn't take him? Something lke that?

 

[txbyhull]

This is all well and good, but why is no one providing any actual reasons to put Cripps on the rookie list?

To ensure we have the ability to take our club tied players in the National Draft???

 

[Priddis Is Done]

After a year playing rugby league in Darwin, Francis he joined SANFL club Port Adelaide in 1994. At Port, Francis ran second in the 1996 Magarey Medal, before being selected as a part of their inaugural AFL side. He remained with the Power until 2001. After being delisted by Port, Francis agreed to cross to Fremantle until it was revealed they couldn't afford him under their salary cap. He played in the WAFL for South Fremantle with a guarantee the Dockers would draft him at the end of the year, but he suffered a serious knee injury during the year which ended his career.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Why is no one talking about Cripps on the rookie list? Seems a bit suspicious to me that people keep suggesting it without providing any actual reasons .

 

[txbyhull]

Quality rage bait from McLovin here

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Quality rage bait from McLovin here

The only rage is at people who won't explain the thinking behind moving Cripps to the rookie list

 

[EagleMan87]

To ensure we have the ability to take our club tied players in the National Draft???

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Glad someone's finally asking the real questions !

 

[ArdentEagle]

The only rage is at people who won't explain the thinking behind moving Cripps to the rookie list

Not sure if you're being serious mate as it's all been said above.

To try and simplify a bit more -

• Being on the rookie list does not stop a player from playing senior AFL games
• Pay, contract length and status within the team remain the same
• The rookie list move is an administrative choice, not a performance demotion


• Cripps is 34 and nearing the end of his career, so he is unlikely to be poached by another club
• Moving him to the rookie list frees a main list position for a younger developing player or a slider in the draft
• West Coast keeps his leadership, experience and on field contribution
• The club gains flexibility for draft and trade period list management
• There is almost no downside because his playing eligibility and salary are unchanged



• It feels like a demotion even though it is not
• People assume “rookie” means unproven or lesser, but that is no longer true under current AFL rules
• They focus on symbolism rather than list structure strategy



• Cripps stays with the team and can still play every week
• The club gains an extra senior list spot for a young prospect
• It is a smart list management decision that rewards loyalty while planning for the future

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Not sure if you're being serious mate as it's all been said above.

To try and simplify a bit more -

• Being on the rookie list does not stop a player from playing senior AFL games
• Pay, contract length and status within the team remain the same
• The rookie list move is an administrative choice, not a performance demotion


• Cripps is 34 and nearing the end of his career, so he is unlikely to be poached by another club
• Moving him to the rookie list frees a main list position for a younger developing player or a slider in the draft
• West Coast keeps his leadership, experience and on field contribution
• The club gains flexibility for draft and trade period list management
• There is almost no downside because his playing eligibility and salary are unchanged



• It feels like a demotion even though it is not
• People assume “rookie” means unproven or lesser, but that is no longer true under current AFL rules
• They focus on symbolism rather than list structure strategy



• Cripps stays with the team and can still play every week
• The club gains an extra senior list spot for a young prospect
• It is a smart list management decision that rewards loyalty while planning for the future

The rookie list feels like such an outdated concept - particularly when we have draftees with varying contracts on the main list (3yrs & 2yrs)

One list - keep it simple

 

[Doashuey]

Not sure if you're being serious mate as it's all been said above.

To try and simplify a bit more -

• Being on the rookie list does not stop a player from playing senior AFL games
• Pay, contract length and status within the team remain the same
• The rookie list move is an administrative choice, not a performance demotion


• Cripps is 34 and nearing the end of his career, so he is unlikely to be poached by another club
• Moving him to the rookie list frees a main list position for a younger developing player or a slider in the draft
• West Coast keeps his leadership, experience and on field contribution
• The club gains flexibility for draft and trade period list management
• There is almost no downside because his playing eligibility and salary are unchanged



• It feels like a demotion even though it is not
• People assume “rookie” means unproven or lesser, but that is no longer true under current AFL rules
• They focus on symbolism rather than list structure strategy



• Cripps stays with the team and can still play every week
• The club gains an extra senior list spot for a young prospect
• It is a smart list management decision that rewards loyalty while planning for the future

I thought it was pretty clear he wasnt being serious??


The sooner someone develops a sarcasm font the better.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

This is a public service announcement to remind people to change the batteries in their sarcasm detectors.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Is this the kind of ruckman we should using one of our rookie spots on

Rated one of the best best ruck in sanfl this year.

211cm

1 - Lachlan McAndrew (Adelaide)​

Measuring in at a massive 211cm, McAndrew adapted to the standard of the Hostplus SANFL League in impressive fashion to be the premier ruckman of the competition.
The 25-year-old averaged 13 disposals, four clearances and five tackles while also leading the League in hit outs with 609 from 16 games, including the major round.
Recruited from the Sydney Swans, McAndrew was selected as first ruck in The Advertiser SANFL Team of the Year and placed runner-up in the Crows’ SANFL Club Champion Award.