List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Elite Pete]

Hold out for the max they can get for him, but they've got to move him on.

Can't have a disgruntled player at the club and also squander the opportunity to bring in an early first round pick.

He's 30 and they're not playing finals before he retires.

Pick 8 plus a second round is reasonable, I'd have thought given his age.

Either way they have changed the narrative around Merrett well. Looked like it was going to be in the cheaper end of ‘overs’ now it will be really overs.

Apparently Hawks are trying to sell their pick 9 for an F1 from a team they expect to finish in the bottom group in 2026. Do the Roos bite and try and get Schubert or Marsh?

 

[Deepthroat]

Pick 8 ends up 12.

No club is trading out a multiple AA mid in their prime under contract for pick 12 and loose change.

Totally on the Hawks to make the deal happen. Again they approached an in contract captain. The coach invited him and the wife for dinner and sold the club.

Then wouldn't pony up the two 1st rounders that obviously were the required rate.

Pay attention players and managers. Tire kickers who will create you drama and wont follow through.

He is 30.

His last AA was 2023.

He will not win another AA moving forward.

He won't be in the 40 man squad moving forward.

He's a 2 year sugar hit to Hawks.

 

[TheBudgies]

A couple of years later there was another high-ceiling athletic ruckman taken at pick 2 by WC also. Glad we didn’t trade that pick…

Don't you dare compare CDT to Nic Nat.

 

[Shueygod]

He is 30.

His last AA was 2023.

He will not win another AA moving forward.

He won't be in the 40 man squad moving forward.

He's a 2 year sugar hit to Hawks.

If he goes to the Hawks and plays a full season he’s likely AA next year, you are seriously underrating Merrett.

 

[Deepthroat]

If he goes to the Hawks and plays a full season he’s likely AA next year, you are seriously underrating Merrett.

Then Hawks will have Day, Newcomb and Merrett as the AA midfield as those two are better than him.

 

[Keys]

We need to move at least one player from the senior list to the rookie list, possibly two.

Unfortunately, the only way to do this is to delist the player then redraft in the rookie draft. There’s an inherent risk with this as another club can then sign the player as a DFA (like North did with Greenwood) or draft him in the RD (like the Suns did with Knobel)

Cripps then looms as the most logical option because it’s unlikely another club is going to pursue a 33 year old small/medium forward who’s probably only got one year left in him. And is unlikely to want to move

It’s not an insult as he still gets paid the same and there’s no practical difference between the lists

That said, and this is purely a guess, it won’t surprise me in the slightest if he decides to retire. Another year playing in a bottom four team who’ll lose more than they win with the prospect of spending some time in the WAFL. Almost all of his premiership teammates have gone and over half the playing list are ten years younger than him

Barnett and Johnston are the other two we could consider but that would leave us vulnerable to having a club poach them as a DFA - having pick 1 in the RD prevents a team picking a player before us

Who knows what the club will actually do though

 

[Deepthroat]

We need to move at least one player from the senior list to the rookie list, possibly two.

Unfortunately, the only way to do this is to delist the player then redraft in the rookie draft. There’s an inherent risk with this as another club can then sign the player as a DFA (like North did with Greenwood) or draft him in the RD (like the Suns did with Knobel)

Cripps then looms as the most logical option because it’s unlikely another club is going to pursue a 33 year old small/medium forward who’s probably only got one year left in him. And is unlikely to want to move

It’s not an insult as he still gets paid the same and there’s no practical difference between the lists

That said, and this is purely a guess, it won’t surprise me in the slightest if he decides to retire. Another year playing in a bottom four team who’ll lose more than they win with the prospect of spending some time in the WAFL. Almost all of his premiership teammates have gone and over half the playing list are ten years younger than him

Barnett and Johnston are the other two we could consider but that would leave us vulnerable to having a club poach them as a DFA - having pick 1 in the RD prevents a team picking a player before us

Who knows what the club will actually do though

Cripps is the logical move.

A number of club legends have done this around the league.

The notion that it is some sort of regression is false.

 

[Shueygod]

Then Hawks will have Day, Newcomb and Merrett as the AA midfield as those two are better than him.

No they aren’t, a fully fit day might be.

You don’t watch enough footy.

 

[Elite Pete]

We need to move at least one player from the senior list to the rookie list, possibly two.

Unfortunately, the only way to do this is to delist the player then redraft in the rookie draft. There’s an inherent risk with this as another club can then sign the player as a DFA (like North did with Greenwood) or draft him in the RD (like the Suns did with Knobel)

Cripps then looms as the most logical option because it’s unlikely another club is going to pursue a 33 year old small/medium forward who’s probably only got one year left in him. And is unlikely to want to move

It’s not an insult as he still gets paid the same and there’s no practical difference between the lists

That said, and this is purely a guess, it won’t surprise me in the slightest if he decides to retire. Another year playing in a bottom four team who’ll lose more than they win with the prospect of spending some time in the WAFL. Almost all of his premiership teammates have gone and over half the playing list are ten years younger than him

Barnett and Johnston are the other two we could consider but that would leave us vulnerable to having a club poach them as a DFA - having pick 1 in the RD prevents a team picking a player before us

Who knows what the club will actually do though

If they have upgraded Hutchinson and Maric and they didn’t have to it’s seems a huge ball drop.

I think Cripps is going to be rookie listed. Seemed very keen to play on last year and been no indication that he might be retiring and even having a crack at Inness at the BnF for not sticking around but things can change.

Rookie list of- McCarthy, Cripps, Newton, Hutchinson, Maric, Dev, Ruck*, ?

Would’ve been the best way to play it if they are keen on all 4 of our NGAs/FS.

 

[WCErevival]

We need to move at least one player from the senior list to the rookie list, possibly two.

Unfortunately, the only way to do this is to delist the player then redraft in the rookie draft. There’s an inherent risk with this as another club can then sign the player as a DFA (like North did with Greenwood) or draft him in the RD (like the Suns did with Knobel)

Cripps then looms as the most logical option because it’s unlikely another club is going to pursue a 33 year old small/medium forward who’s probably only got one year left in him. And is unlikely to want to move

It’s not an insult as he still gets paid the same and there’s no practical difference between the lists

That said, and this is purely a guess, it won’t surprise me in the slightest if he decides to retire. Another year playing in a bottom four team who’ll lose more than they win with the prospect of spending some time in the WAFL. Almost all of his premiership teammates have gone and over half the playing list are ten years younger than him

Barnett and Johnston are the other two we could consider but that would leave us vulnerable to having a club poach them as a DFA - having pick 1 in the RD prevents a team picking a player before us

Who knows what the club will actually do though

Why do we need to?

 

[amazingjoshy]

We need to move at least one player from the senior list to the rookie list, possibly two.

Unfortunately, the only way to do this is to delist the player then redraft in the rookie draft. There’s an inherent risk with this as another club can then sign the player as a DFA (like North did with Greenwood) or draft him in the RD (like the Suns did with Knobel)

Cripps then looms as the most logical option because it’s unlikely another club is going to pursue a 33 year old small/medium forward who’s probably only got one year left in him. And is unlikely to want to move

It’s not an insult as he still gets paid the same and there’s no practical difference between the lists

That said, and this is purely a guess, it won’t surprise me in the slightest if he decides to retire. Another year playing in a bottom four team who’ll lose more than they win with the prospect of spending some time in the WAFL. Almost all of his premiership teammates have gone and over half the playing list are ten years younger than him

Barnett and Johnston are the other two we could consider but that would leave us vulnerable to having a club poach them as a DFA - having pick 1 in the RD prevents a team picking a player before us

Who knows what the club will actually do though

Are we really stressed about a club poaching either of those 2?

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Why do we need to?

To ensure we have the main list spots to match bids on Williams and Banfield if necessary.

 

[Elite Pete]

Why do we need to?

Because you need to have an open main list spot if you wish to match your NGAs/FS if they get a bid in the draft. If we take 3 open days after selection and wish to match all 4 NGA/FS we would need 7 list spots open prior to the draft.

 

[dinnaz]

We need someone like Nick Watson.

 

[Keys]

Why do we need to?

We will be bringing in at least 3x R1 draft picks plus having to match probable bids on Tylah Williams and Charlie Banfield. I’d like the club to also have the option to use a fourth draft pick or retain the capacity to match a bid on Koby Evans should one come

So we need at least 5 and ideally 6 list openings heading into the draft

Right now, as far as I can make out, we have 6 spots but -
• Dewar has to be upgraded as he’s been a rookie for the maximum allowed 3 years
• There’s a suggestion that Hutchinson has also been upgraded but I’ve been unable to confirm if that’s happened - the poster who mentioned it, eaglevision , is reliable with his information so I’m not going to dismiss it even though it would have been totally unnecessary

So we have 5 max and possibly only 4 spots available when we should be aiming for 6.

And that assumes Wes Walley gets through the man draft so we can add him as a Cat B rookie without having to match a bid

 

[amazingjoshy]

Im going to be so flat if we dont pick Wes Walley

 

[Keys]

Are we really stressed about a club poaching either of those 2?

Possibly not but I’m assuming the club want to keep them on the list

 

[stylish]

He is 30.

His last AA was 2023.

He will not win another AA moving forward.

He won't be in the 40 man squad moving forward.

He's a 2 year sugar hit to Hawks.

Disagree completely

Seriously good player who will be around longer than 2 years.
And anyway, in AFL circles - 2 years is an eternity nowdays. If Mitchell is honest with himself he's probably only got 2 years to win this cause after that Barrass, Battle, Sicily are either retired or cactus

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Im going to be so flat if we dont pick Wes Walley

No danger of that happening with the extra rookie spots.

 

[dinnaz]

Love a bit of Bombers slander as much as anyone, but saying on one hand they should be maximising their assets and then saying they should trade their contracted captain and 6 time B&F winner for pick 8 isnt quite computing with me

They have every right to hold out for a monster offer.

The way he plays, there's could be 5+ years left in him & could make it close to 400 & being the hawks B&F for the next few seasons.
However, there's also just one long term injury away from retirement time too as we have found out too many times recently.

Hawks should up their offer but he isn't worth a monster deal like Essendon want.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Hold out for the max they can get for him, but they've got to move him on.

Can't have a disgruntled player at the club and also squander the opportunity to bring in an early first round pick.

He's 30 and they're not playing finals before he retires.

Pick 8 plus a second round is reasonable, I'd have thought given his age.

Narrator "They do not actually have to move him on"

Pick 8 is not pick 8 it's low/mid teens after academy and f/s in a shallow draft. You don't give captains away for nothing. The idea of a second rounder helping is a joke, Hawks currently have pick 31 which will end up mid/late 30's.

Even getting the Hawks F1 is a bit crap as projected mid/late teens next year, but would be a minimum, and it doesn't appear they are offering that.

 

[TheBudgies]

We need to move at least one player from the senior list to the rookie list, possibly two.

Unfortunately, the only way to do this is to delist the player then redraft in the rookie draft. There’s an inherent risk with this as another club can then sign the player as a DFA (like North did with Greenwood) or draft him in the RD (like the Suns did with Knobel)

Cripps then looms as the most logical option because it’s unlikely another club is going to pursue a 33 year old small/medium forward who’s probably only got one year left in him. And is unlikely to want to move

It’s not an insult as he still gets paid the same and there’s no practical difference between the lists

That said, and this is purely a guess, it won’t surprise me in the slightest if he decides to retire. Another year playing in a bottom four team who’ll lose more than they win with the prospect of spending some time in the WAFL. Almost all of his premiership teammates have gone and over half the playing list are ten years younger than him

Barnett and Johnston are the other two we could consider but that would leave us vulnerable to having a club poach them as a DFA - having pick 1 in the RD prevents a team picking a player before us

Who knows what the club will actually do though

Could Cole be the other one with Cripps? I wouldn't be opposed to saying "we'll give you an additional 50k for your troubles in the DFA/RD process" feel like Barnett is too young and a position of scarcity that he might get nabbed by someone.

Just confirm for me does prelisting NGAs prior to PSD impact the picks? Eg. Does prelisting consume pick 1 or is it completely separate? I was under the impression it was completely separate.

 

[mattyc75]

He is 30.

His last AA was 2023.

He will not win another AA moving forward.

He won't be in the 40 man squad moving forward.

He's a 2 year sugar hit to Hawks.

When you say sugar hit do you mean he could be a part of a premiership team?

 

[m01och]

Are we done now ? Would we do pick 2 & 12. for Essendons 5 & 6

I don’t think Dursma and CDT are the best fits for WCE. Would WCE consider 1+2 for Dons 5+6+2026 F1. Would say get them SA boys (Sharp + Cummings - better list fit) + a second top 10 pick in 2026 draft.

 

[Truly Lazuli]

I don’t think Dursma and CDT are the best fits for WCE. Would WCE consider 1+2 for Dons 5+6+2026 F1. Would say get them SA boys (Sharp + Cummings - better list fit) + a second top 10 pick in 2026 draft.

Sh1t trade