List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[rfarlz]

In particular Patterson and Annable are the 2 players that would be the highest need.
Obviously wont bid on Annable as we just had some decent dealings with BRI and got Dev for free when they could have demanded a late pick.
Patterson has some real x factor as well as speed and doesn't mind the contested ball game.

Any pick that gets Patterson is a good pick, interesting that GC have left themselves a bit short for bid matching points and the talk recently that Patterson might need to look around?

Expect GC to get their players they want but they have 5 draftable players in their academy and 2 top 5 picks its going to be interesting to see if they choose to take all or let 1 go?

If we bid on Uwland and Patterson with 1 and 2 GC's decision will be letting one of them go, or potentially letting the other three go (and with a hige 2026 defecit too). There's a real chance they just decide that Patterson isn't worth the price if we bid on him with pick 1.

 

[new breed]

Thewest headlines

"WITHOUT MERRETT "

" MAROONED AT TULLAMARINE "

 

[unty11]

Surely not with Williams and Walley coming in

Just my opinion. Dovaston has been kicking bags this year so why not? It's an area of our game that we have a deficiency in.

 

[uptheWC]

Just my opinion. Dovaston has been kicking bags this year so why not? It's an area of our game that we have a deficiency in.

I think it’s an area that will be addressed through nga picks leaving us able to use top picks on other needs

 

[BigBirdz]

How good would it be if they allowed pre season draft pick trading for national draft picks? Adelaide could come to us and make a deal.
Would definitely spice things up even more

 

[mattyc75]

Not sure which one of you edited his Wikipedia page but good onya

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That hairline is generous

 

[bombard]

Clubs need more power over agents and the AFLPA.

Much of the period it seemed like the clubs were in the back seat trying to satisfy the wishes of wantaway contracted players, rather than actually going about trying to improve their lists. In a time where players are demanding more money and more years on contracts than ever before and free agency gives them a path to any desired pay and location - it seems disingenuous to the clubs that players can bail out on long-term contracts upon which the future is built around by requesting a trade to a particular destination.

Doubt it would ever happen, but I would advocate for a situation where if a player agrees to a contract of longer than three years, they forego their rights in being able to dictate any terms should a trade involving them occur during the period prior to the final three years of the contract.

Players would retain their multi-year financial security, whilst clubs would be insulated from having their long-term planning held to ransom by players and agents.

If ever there was a year where the clubs and league push back on the PA, this surely must be it.

I agree with some sort of three year+ carve out which keeps players better in line on trade requests. Or, alternatively, simply this: if a player requests a trade they can't specify where. If the club initiates the trade conversation, the player must still consent to the destination. I dunno - there's something in there.

 

[shooshka]

No it says nothing - it doesn't rule out speaking to him, but recognises the current reality that he clearly wants to get to Adelaide.

Publicly sniffing around him does nothing beneficial for us right now.

We are also reliant on Brisbane delisting Dev.

Publicly celebrating and chasing Ah Chee may put that at risk (and force us into a choice in the PSD plus list spot problem).

So we need to make the right noises now for that if nothing else

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Time will tell

Who out of the post you quoted will be getting better?

 

[Obeanie1]

Was Brisbane forcing Ah Chee into the PSD also part of including 16 in the Starcevich deal? Or is that reading too much into the whole Oscar, Dev and Brian/WCE deals?

Wondered that for a minute and then though....naaaa.

More like Lions want him to stay so maybe he will.

Or they just warned clubs don't come after our players thinking you will get them cheap. So playing the long game.

They are drunk on free agents, academy access and premiership success. They can afford to do it.

 

[Keys]

Hasn’t been mentioned but the PSD threat only works if the player agrees to put himself in it - something that we know all too well with Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

Age

27

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

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15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

CL

1.2

4star

being clear he wouldn’t do it last year

Adelaide only get to use the PSD as a threat because Ah Chee agrees to do it and leave his former club empty handed. Personally feel that’s a pretty shitty thing to do and it’s also a reflection on his manager who might as well be on the Crows payroll the way he spoke

 

[Deepthroat]

Wondered that for a minute and then though....naaaa.

More like Lions want him to stay so maybe he will.

Or they just warned clubs don't come after our players thinking you will get them cheap. So playing the long game.

They are drunk on free agents, academy access and premiership success. They can afford to do it.

I also think they would rather not give a key September opponent an asset to defeat them for little.

Consider an Adelaide v Brisbane prelim and Ah Chee bobs up with 4 to win it for the Crows.

Allowing him to land at WC for nothing means he isn't going to contribute to possibly derailing a threepeat.

 

[Obeanie1]

I think they've stated they're content with the group of small forwards they have coming through, as in not looking to pick up another.

He more than a small forward though.

He is more of a Cripps HHF. Killed the time trials at the combine. Massive tank.

 

[Obeanie1]

Hasn’t been mentioned but the PSD threat only works if the player agrees to put himself in it - something that we know all too well with Liam Baker being clear he wouldn’t do it last year

Adelaide only get to use the PSD as a threat because Ah Chee agrees to do it and leave his former club empty handed. Personally feel that’s a pretty shitty thing to do and it’s also a reflection on his manager who might as well be on the Crows payroll the way he spoke

Something doesnt add up there.

So an OOC player can bypass all the drafts? And go wherever they like as a DFA?

Dont they nominate the main draft instead?

 

[Wooshaaaa]

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I'll eat my hat if Merrett isn't a Hawk tonight. It was always going to happen.

 

[Obeanie1]

I dunno it might not be us but I don’t want to see Adelaide walk another player into draft after they got Hately in similar fashion 5 years ago. I hate Port but wouldn’t mind them being campaigners and picking him up

And Dawson before that. (I stand corrected Dawson was traded late for pick 17)

This will bethe 3rd time the Crows use the PSD.

They never forgot Tippet and the Swans doing it to them.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Full interview with Clarke on 6pr

Pretty firm on not going for Ah Chee and also keeping 1&2. Might try and move our later picks up or into next year

 

[Obeanie1]

I'll eat my hat if Merrett isn't a Hawk tonight. It was always going to happen.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

It looks like moving up the draft order from 13 will be very very difficult now given people who hold picks will want to use them. May be able to get 11 if Carlton think Hawks will bid on Dean. Not sure that's worth the step up.

So new strategy.

1. Duursma
2. Sharp

13, 34, 53 traded to GC for 18 and 24.

18. Freddy R (or if an obvious slider)
24. Curtin (or Freddy R if we took a slider and he's still here)

Late picks for Banfield and Academy kids

 

[Cuzz09]

I just get the feeling we'll keep it ultra simple and go

1 Duursma
2 CDT

Top 2 ranked guys while year really

Would've loved Sharp

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Hasn’t been mentioned but the PSD threat only works if the player agrees to put himself in it - something that we know all too well with Liam Baker being clear he wouldn’t do it last year

Adelaide only get to use the PSD as a threat because Ah Chee agrees to do it and leave his former club empty handed. Personally feel that’s a pretty shitty thing to do and it’s also a reflection on his manager who might as well be on the Crows payroll the way he spoke

Or maybe Ah Chee, manager and Crows in their discussions agreed on what they thought would be a fair offer to Brisbane. Brisbane were aresholes demanding pick 16, which was not fair in anyway so he was prepared to walk once Brisbane didn't do the right thing by him.

Reckon Crows will have their eyes on Marsh/Barker with 16.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I can see tigers or dons coming for one of our first 2 picks.

Hold them firm untill draft night.

Make em pay though.

2 13 for 5 6 30

1 5 6 (30 34 41 52) enough point to match bids on Banfield Williams and Evans.

Or

2 13 for 3 4 F2

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I can see tigers or dons coming for one of our first 2 picks.

Hold them firm untill draft night.

Make em pay though.

2 13 for 5 6 30

1 5 6 (30 34 41 52) enough point to match bids on Banfield Williams and Evans.

Or

2 13 for 3 4 F2

I can't see Them really offering up what you've suggested.

I'd be happy enough to do 2 to Richmond for 3 and their F2 if they want CDT enough and we aren't going to take him.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Is Patterson worth pick 2?

All the mocks ive seen have him outside the top 4 or 5. No point in bidding if we dont rank him the 2nd best just to stick it to the Suns

I view Annable and Uwland as 100% chance Lions and GC will match, so remove them both from the rankings and it places Patterson at 2-3.