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List Changes - 2025
In:
  • Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
  • Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
  • Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane
Out:
  • Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
  • Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
  • Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)
  • Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR
 
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GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
They work together in reality. If they both target the same player they both share the blame
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They don't work together on the drafting, their roles are separate.

If you're gonna talk asich shit as you constantly do, it would pay for you to know this first.
 
txbyhull said:
Can’t possibly be comparing their games. Robey’s by a mile against better competition
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I was pretty impressed but what I saw from Banfield.
Not saying he's on robeys level but I think he'll be one of the steals of the draft
Robeys had some good games sure but more than happy not to take him if we dont split pick 2
 
mattyc75 said:
I was pretty impressed but what I saw from Banfield.
Not saying he's on robeys level but I think he'll be one of the steals of the draft
Robeys had some good games sure but more than happy not to take him if we dont split pick 2
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Oh yeah nah I think Banfield is a talent and can probably contribute as a 4th banana balanced mid in 4 years time. I more so meant saying Banfield had 2 less great games than Robey. Banfield had good games but they weren’t comparable to Robey’s performances.
 

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We have 38 players contracted for 2026 and beyond, so courtesy of our expanded rookie list we have 10 places to fill - 5 on the main list, 4 Cat A rookie places and 1 Cat B opening

We currently hold picks 1,2,13,34,41,53 and 58 but can only take the same number of picks into the draft as we have list spots, so unless we trade a pick(s) prior to the November 7 deadline we will lose picks 53 and 58. It’s possible that picks 34 and 41 are traded to advance pick 13 further up the draft order or for a future pick(s) so watch this space in the coming days

We also have pick 1 in the Rookie Draft followed by 19,37 if necessary (they won’t be) plus pick 1 in the PSD that we could use to select Callum Ah Chee but won’t.

How will we round out our playing list for 2026?

Main list (5 places)
• Pick 1
• Pick 2
• Pick 13

That’s the easy part as we’ve clearly stated our intention to use three R1 picks, albeit we could split pick 2 and/or improve the position of pick 13. In any case we’ll use 3 picks into the top 13

But then it gets complicated as the last two spots could be filled by any of the following:

• Pick 34
• Pick 41
• Tylah Williams (Matched bid)
• Charlie Banfield (Matched bid)
• Koby Evans (Matched bid)

It’s possible that a bid for Williams could come late in R1 which would be a pick in the early 20s. If that happens we will need to match the points value of the pick less a discount of 84 points - it’s hard to know for certain since picks 34 and 41 will move around a bit due to matching of bids on other players but it’s probable those two picks combined would hold enough value to match a bid from the early 20s onwards. A bid would need to be within 3 spots of wherever pick 34 ends up for that pick to have enough value to match without using pick 41. Obviously if a bid doesn’t come before our 4th pick (34) we could use that selection and still be able to match a subsequent bid using pick 41

Once the draft hits pick 37, a bid can be matched with the next available pick provided there’s a vacant list spot available. I think it’s fair to assume any bid for Banfield or Evans comes after this point and may not eventuate at all

So the 4th spot will be either Williams or pick 34 if we either don’t match a bid or one doesn’t come. Whether we match a bid depends on where our recruiters rank Williams in comparison to who might still be on the board at our next pick - there’s some handy types going around that range in mock drafts so matching a bid, whilst achievable, is far from guaranteed

We would still then have a 5th live pick which could be used on another player or passed/traded out whilst we wait for a potential bid on either Williams (if no bid before 34), Banfield or Evans. Again, that decision would be based on the club’s rankings of who is still available in comparison to those 3 players

Once that 5th pick is used, we would not be able to match an any bid on (and therefore lose) whoever is remaining from Banfield, Evans or Williams - it would be at least 1 and possibly 2 we’d be unable to match. Suspect the club is happy to roll the dice on a bid not coming for Evans but the decision to not create a 6th list opening means we could lose one of Williams/Banfield if there’s no bid before 34 on Williams and we use that pick instead

If we don’t match an early bid for Williams and a bid doesn’t come for either Banfield or Evans there’s a possibility we don’t fill that 5th spot on draft night

Rookie list (4 places)
• Robertson is locked in for one spot
• Another DFA/SSP signing like Macrae by way of example only

Would leave two spots to be filled by any of the following:

• Evans (if he gets through the main draft without a bid)
• Banfield (if he gets through the main draft without a bid)
• Pick 1 of the Rookie Draft
• Another DFA/SSP signing

Cat B list (1 place)
• Notionally this spot will be filled by Wes Walley who is unlikely to attract a bid in the main draft. However, if Evans gets through without a bid he can be added to the Cat B list and a decision would then need to be made whether to add both Walley and Evans. This would necessitate moving Champion to the Cat A list and using up one of those last two rookie list spots mentioned above

In conclusion, we are essentially committed to filling 4 of the 10 spots with our 3x R1 picks and Dev Robertson. If we were to then add Banfield and all 3 NGA players, it would still leave two other open spots - at least one of which will be another DFA. The other could be a 4th draft pick if that comes before there’s a bid on Williams or alternatively pick 1 in the Rookie Draft.

If we miss one or both of Banfield/Evans we will be turning to the Rookie draft and/or another signing from the DFA discard pile to fill the spot they’d have otherwise taken.

Best case scenario they both end up on our list, but if they don’t we’re choosing from the undrafted or delisted instead which would be the cost of not shifting Cripps to the rookie list - people can make up their own mind on how significant that is

1) Pick 1 - will be Duursma
2) Pick 2 - probably CDT
3) Pick 13 - ???
4) Pick 34 or Williams - there will probably be a bid before 34 but not sure we match
5) Banfield/Evans - matched bid
6) Evans/Banfield- assuming the other doesn’t attract a bid
7) Robertson
8) Macrae
9) RD Pick 1 - ???
10) Walley or DFA (both if we miss on Evans or Banfield)
 
Leon Kickett nephew of Derek and Dale Kickett . Phew Freo and Eagles keen , wonder how keen we are maybe it's between T Williams or Kickett for WC ...draft either but not both .
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Saying the Head of List Management and Recruiting isn’t responsible for the players on the list wasn’t on my bingo card for this offseason I must admit
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Clarke isn't the head of 'recruiting'. He's the list manager - Contracts, trades, etc.

Duane Massey literally has it in his title - National Recruiting Manager. He does the draft stuff.

It's ok to be wrong mate. You don't have to dig in this deep.
 
Been a bit of talk around having enough players to delist at the end of 2026. We have at least 15 players out of contract at the end of 2026, plus anyone we add via the RD or as a DFA on one year deals. They are:
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92)
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97)
  • Matt Flynn (13/9/97)
  • Bailey Williams (17/4/00)
  • Tyler Brockman (22/11/02)
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03)
  • Jack Williams (1/12/03)
  • Harry Barnett (22/1/04)
  • Elijah Hewett (27/5/04)
  • Noah Long (23/8/04)
  • Ryan Maric (6/9/04)
  • Clay Hall (12/5/05)
  • Harvey Johnston (18/8/05)
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06)
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06)
The only player on that list who I’d consider to be a priority signing would be Hewett whilst Cripps will almost certainly retire at the end of next year

Everyone else on that list I’d be waiting to see how they develop before offering them a new contract for 2027. Obviously, some are closer to the cliff than others but they’ve all got work to do
 
Keys said:
Been a bit of talk around having enough players to delist at the end of 2026. We have at least 15 players out of contract at the end of 2026, plus anyone we add via the RD or as a DFA on one year deals. They are:
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92)
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97)
  • Matt Flynn (13/9/97)
  • Bailey Williams (17/4/00)
  • Tyler Brockman (22/11/02)
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03)
  • Jack Williams (1/12/03)
  • Harry Barnett (22/1/04)
  • Elijah Hewett (27/5/04)
  • Noah Long (23/8/04)
  • Ryan Maric (6/9/04)
  • Clay Hall (12/5/05)
  • Harvey Johnston (18/8/05)
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06)
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06)
The only player on that list who I’d consider to be a priority signing would be Hewett whilst Cripps will almost certainly retire at the end of next year

Everyone else on that list I’d be waiting to see how they develop before offering them a new contract for 2027. Obviously, some are closer to the cliff than others but they’ve all got work to do
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Great post. Hate the prospect of cutting players, but that's the reality of all those listed.

I know there are plenty of Long fans here, but I think he'll be prime delist material next year.
 

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Keys said:
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) ❌
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) ❌
  • Matt Flynn (13/9/97) ❌
  • Bailey Williams (17/4/00) 🔎
  • Tyler Brockman (22/11/02) 🔎
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) 🔎
  • Jack Williams (1/12/03) 🔎
  • Harry Barnett (22/1/04) ❌
  • Elijah Hewett (27/5/04) ✅
  • Noah Long (23/8/04) 🔎
  • Ryan Maric (6/9/04) ✅
  • Clay Hall (12/5/05) ✅
  • Harvey Johnston (18/8/05) ❌
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06) ✅
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) 🔎
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Thoughts as of right now
 
bzparkes said:
Clarke isn't the head of 'recruiting'. He's the list manager - Contracts, trades, etc.

Duane Massey literally has it in his title - National Recruiting Manager. He does the draft stuff.

It's ok to be wrong mate. You don't have to dig in this deep.
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I hate to show any support to SGIO, and what you say is true that Clarke is list manager and Massey Recruiting, but I would suggest there is a fair amount of crossover in both roles.

Massey likely gets the final say, but surely Clarke would have significant input, especially considering he worked his way up in recruiting at Richmond.
 
Keys said:
We have 38 players contracted for 2026 and beyond, so courtesy of our expanded rookie list we have 10 places to fill - 5 on the main list, 4 Cat A rookie places and 1 Cat B opening

We currently hold picks 1,2,13,34,41,53 and 58 but can only take the same number of picks into the draft as we have list spots, so unless we trade a pick(s) prior to the November 7 deadline we will lose picks 53 and 58. It’s possible that picks 34 and 41 are traded to advance pick 13 further up the draft order or for a future pick(s) so watch this space in the coming days

We also have pick 1 in the Rookie Draft followed by 19,37 if necessary (they won’t be) plus pick 1 in the PSD that we could use to select Callum Ah Chee but won’t.

How will we round out our playing list for 2026?

Main list (5 places)
• Pick 1
• Pick 2
• Pick 13

That’s the easy part as we’ve clearly stated our intention to use three R1 picks, albeit we could split pick 2 and/or improve the position of pick 13. In any case we’ll use 3 picks into the top 13

But then it gets complicated as the last two spots could be filled by any of the following:

• Pick 34
• Pick 41
• Tylah Williams (Matched bid)
• Charlie Banfield (Matched bid)
• Koby Evans (Matched bid)

It’s possible that a bid for Williams could come late in R1 which would be a pick in the early 20s. If that happens we will need to match the points value of the pick less a discount of 84 points - it’s hard to know for certain since picks 34 and 41 will move around a bit due to matching of bids on other players but it’s probable those two picks combined would hold enough value to match a bid from the early 20s onwards. A bid would need to be within 3 spots of wherever pick 34 ends up for that pick to have enough value to match without using pick 41. Obviously if a bid doesn’t come before our 4th pick (34) we could use that selection and still be able to match a subsequent bid using pick 41

Once the draft hits pick 37, a bid can be matched with the next available pick provided there’s a vacant list spot available. I think it’s fair to assume any bid for Banfield or Evans comes after this point and may not eventuate at all

So the 4th spot will be either Williams or pick 34 if we either don’t match a bid or one doesn’t come. Whether we match a bid depends on where our recruiters rank Williams in comparison to who might still be on the board at our next pick - there’s some handy types going around that range in mock drafts so matching a bid, whilst achievable, is far from guaranteed

We would still then have a 5th live pick which could be used on another player or passed/traded out whilst we wait for a potential bid on either Williams (if no bid before 34), Banfield or Evans. Again, that decision would be based on the club’s rankings of who is still available in comparison to those 3 players

Once that 5th pick is used, we would not be able to match an any bid on (and therefore lose) whoever is remaining from Banfield, Evans or Williams - it would be at least 1 and possibly 2 we’d be unable to match. Suspect the club is happy to roll the dice on a bid not coming for Evans but the decision to not create a 6th list opening means we could lose one of Williams/Banfield if there’s no bid before 34 on Williams and we use that pick instead

If we don’t match an early bid for Williams and a bid doesn’t come for either Banfield or Evans there’s a possibility we don’t fill that 5th spot on draft night

Rookie list (4 places)
• Robertson is locked in for one spot
• Another DFA/SSP signing like Macrae by way of example only

Would leave two spots to be filled by any of the following:

• Evans (if he gets through the main draft without a bid)
• Banfield (if he gets through the main draft without a bid)
• Pick 1 of the Rookie Draft
• Another DFA/SSP signing

Cat B list (1 place)
• Notionally this spot will be filled by Wes Walley who is unlikely to attract a bid in the main draft. However, if Evans gets through without a bid he can be added to the Cat B list and a decision would then need to be made whether to add both Walley and Evans. This would necessitate moving Champion to the Cat A list and using up one of those last two rookie list spots mentioned above

In conclusion, we are essentially committed to filling 4 of the 10 spots with our 3x R1 picks and Dev Robertson. If we were to then add Banfield and all 3 NGA players, it would still leave two other open spots - at least one of which will be another DFA. The other could be a 4th draft pick if that comes before there’s a bid on Williams or alternatively pick 1 in the Rookie Draft.

If we miss one or both of Banfield/Evans we will be turning to the Rookie draft and/or another signing from the DFA discard pile to fill the spot they’d have otherwise taken.

Best case scenario they both end up on our list, but if they don’t we’re choosing from the undrafted or delisted instead which would be the cost of not shifting Cripps to the rookie list - people can make up their own mind on how significant that is

1) Pick 1 - will be Duursma
2) Pick 2 - probably CDT
3) Pick 13 - ???
4) Pick 34 or Williams - there will probably be a bid before 34 but not sure we match
5) Banfield/Evans - matched bid
6) Evans/Banfield- assuming the other doesn’t attract a bid
7) Robertson
8) Macrae
9) RD Pick 1 - ???
10) Walley or DFA (both if we miss on Evans or Banfield)
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Brilliant again Keys.
All well explained and if no bid comes before pick 37 then Williams and Banfield can be added with 53 & 58 if they attract bids.
That means 34 & 41 are available to be traded into 2026 or 1 used on C Curtin around that draft area 35-40 and the other traded into 2026.
Agree with all your scenarios about other players and picks.

Really comes down to who we take at 2 & 13 or are ESS wiling to trade 5 & 6 for 2 & 13 or some itteration of that with RICH involved so we get our preferred targets.

ESS first offer of 5 & 15 for 2 means we are at the start of negetioations, reported we would want 5 and ESS F1st for 2 seems where we are thinking.
 
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Leon Kickett nephew of Derek and Dale Kickett . Phew Freo and Eagles keen , wonder how keen we are maybe it's between T Williams or Kickett for WC ...draft either but not both .
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Still not sure on Williams as dosent appear to kick many goals. Has some nice traits on the highlight packages though
 

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tigger_ferret said:
I hate to show any support to SGIO, and what you say is true that Clarke is list manager and Massey Recruiting, but I would suggest there is a fair amount of crossover in both roles.

Massey likely gets the final say, but surely Clarke would have significant input, especially considering he worked his way up in recruiting at Richmond.
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I'm sure they'd discuss things but Clarke isn't the one deciding who gets drafted.
 
archiemoses said:
If walley doesnt attract a bid wouldnt we just leave him and take him next year if he improves?
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If Evans doesn’t make it through to the end of the main draft, regardless of whether or not we match a bid, then Walley is the only player we can put on the Cat B list to replace Livingstone

Adding Walley only becomes a choice if there’s no bid on Evans because in that instance we could put Evans into the vacant Cat B spot. That would then require moving Champion to the Cat A list to make the necessary room
 
new breed said:
Leon Kickett nephew of Derek and Dale Kickett . Phew Freo and Eagles keen , wonder how keen we are maybe it's between T Williams or Kickett for WC ...draft either but not both .
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Kickett intentionally, or probably unintentionally sticking the knives into Williams the other day speaking to Gossage.
When asked if he knew any weird things about any draftees, he said Williams really loves to drink 🤣:beercheers::beermug:
 
Keys said:
We have 38 players contracted for 2026 and beyond, so courtesy of our expanded rookie list we have 10 places to fill - 5 on the main list, 4 Cat A rookie places and 1 Cat B opening

We currently hold picks 1,2,13,34,41,53 and 58 but can only take the same number of picks into the draft as we have list spots, so unless we trade a pick(s) prior to the November 7 deadline we will lose picks 53 and 58. It’s possible that picks 34 and 41 are traded to advance pick 13 further up the draft order or for a future pick(s) so watch this space in the coming days

We also have pick 1 in the Rookie Draft followed by 19,37 if necessary (they won’t be) plus pick 1 in the PSD that we could use to select Callum Ah Chee but won’t.

How will we round out our playing list for 2026?

Main list (5 places)
• Pick 1
• Pick 2
• Pick 13

That’s the easy part as we’ve clearly stated our intention to use three R1 picks, albeit we could split pick 2 and/or improve the position of pick 13. In any case we’ll use 3 picks into the top 13

But then it gets complicated as the last two spots could be filled by any of the following:

• Pick 34
• Pick 41
• Tylah Williams (Matched bid)
• Charlie Banfield (Matched bid)
• Koby Evans (Matched bid)

It’s possible that a bid for Williams could come late in R1 which would be a pick in the early 20s. If that happens we will need to match the points value of the pick less a discount of 84 points - it’s hard to know for certain since picks 34 and 41 will move around a bit due to matching of bids on other players but it’s probable those two picks combined would hold enough value to match a bid from the early 20s onwards. A bid would need to be within 3 spots of wherever pick 34 ends up for that pick to have enough value to match without using pick 41. Obviously if a bid doesn’t come before our 4th pick (34) we could use that selection and still be able to match a subsequent bid using pick 41

Once the draft hits pick 37, a bid can be matched with the next available pick provided there’s a vacant list spot available. I think it’s fair to assume any bid for Banfield or Evans comes after this point and may not eventuate at all

So the 4th spot will be either Williams or pick 34 if we either don’t match a bid or one doesn’t come. Whether we match a bid depends on where our recruiters rank Williams in comparison to who might still be on the board at our next pick - there’s some handy types going around that range in mock drafts so matching a bid, whilst achievable, is far from guaranteed

We would still then have a 5th live pick which could be used on another player or passed/traded out whilst we wait for a potential bid on either Williams (if no bid before 34), Banfield or Evans. Again, that decision would be based on the club’s rankings of who is still available in comparison to those 3 players

Once that 5th pick is used, we would not be able to match an any bid on (and therefore lose) whoever is remaining from Banfield, Evans or Williams - it would be at least 1 and possibly 2 we’d be unable to match. Suspect the club is happy to roll the dice on a bid not coming for Evans but the decision to not create a 6th list opening means we could lose one of Williams/Banfield if there’s no bid before 34 on Williams and we use that pick instead

If we don’t match an early bid for Williams and a bid doesn’t come for either Banfield or Evans there’s a possibility we don’t fill that 5th spot on draft night

Rookie list (4 places)
• Robertson is locked in for one spot
• Another DFA/SSP signing like Macrae by way of example only

Would leave two spots to be filled by any of the following:

• Evans (if he gets through the main draft without a bid)
• Banfield (if he gets through the main draft without a bid)
• Pick 1 of the Rookie Draft
• Another DFA/SSP signing

Cat B list (1 place)
• Notionally this spot will be filled by Wes Walley who is unlikely to attract a bid in the main draft. However, if Evans gets through without a bid he can be added to the Cat B list and a decision would then need to be made whether to add both Walley and Evans. This would necessitate moving Champion to the Cat A list and using up one of those last two rookie list spots mentioned above

In conclusion, we are essentially committed to filling 4 of the 10 spots with our 3x R1 picks and Dev Robertson. If we were to then add Banfield and all 3 NGA players, it would still leave two other open spots - at least one of which will be another DFA. The other could be a 4th draft pick if that comes before there’s a bid on Williams or alternatively pick 1 in the Rookie Draft.

If we miss one or both of Banfield/Evans we will be turning to the Rookie draft and/or another signing from the DFA discard pile to fill the spot they’d have otherwise taken.

Best case scenario they both end up on our list, but if they don’t we’re choosing from the undrafted or delisted instead which would be the cost of not shifting Cripps to the rookie list - people can make up their own mind on how significant that is

1) Pick 1 - will be Duursma
2) Pick 2 - probably CDT
3) Pick 13 - ???
4) Pick 34 or Williams - there will probably be a bid before 34 but not sure we match
5) Banfield/Evans - matched bid
6) Evans/Banfield- assuming the other doesn’t attract a bid
7) Robertson
8) Macrae
9) RD Pick 1 - ???
10) Walley or DFA (both if we miss on Evans or Banfield)
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Does Evans qualify for Cat B?
 
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