List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. Other Assorted Crap. 2020 Edition

[Altum Volantes]

What a stupid thing to say though.

Not only is Mifsud himself Aboriginal, he is literally the Executive Director of Aboriginal Victoria now which is the government agency that responsible for Aboriginal Affairs in Victoria.

I think I have spoken about this issue at length here and on the MB.

The kind of comments Rendell expressed are pervasive in AFL community. Everyone wants the talent and flair that comes along with many of the Indigenous boys, but many clubs aren't willing to do the other piece, that is sometimes required, which is around mentoring, decision making, character development.

We need to be breaking down barriers and ensuring clubs have the RESOURCES AND CAPABILITY to identify and then support Indigenous players. Some of whom need more support than other players.

If you take Rendell's comments to their end point, that means for us at West Coast - No Chris Lewis, No Wirrpanda, No Liam Ryan

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Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

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Fwd

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11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

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2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

, No Willie Rioli

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Willie Rioli

Age

30

Ht

175cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

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D

12.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

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D

11.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.6

3star

, No Jarrod Cameron

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Jarrod Cameron

Age

25

Ht

182cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

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D

7.0

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.3

2star

M

1.7

2star

T

3.6

5star

G

1.3

5star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.5

1star

HB

1.5

1star

M

0.5

1star

T

2.5

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.2

5star

G

2.0

5star

, and very likely no Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

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Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

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What a terrible travesty that would be.

Oh don’t get me wrong - it was a very stupid thing to say to someone in Misfud’s position (or anyone in general really) - but I think context is everything - and while he may have voiced an underlying prejudice that was out there, it always seemed to be more ‘this is what it may come to’ rather than ‘I think this is what clubs should do.’ - but that’s how it was reported at the time.

Anyway, ancient history.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I'd trade Cerra and 12 for Logan McDonald. He's a star.

 

[JackOutback]

I'd trade Cerra and 12 for Logan McDonald. He's a star.

I’d back us to be in his ear for a trade back at the earliest possible convenience. Would likely be costly either way so much depends on the strength of the draft in each year, our available picks etc.

 

[Ishmael_]

What’s this then?

My clumsy attempt to avoid the speak his name and the devil will appear or ole' Baker_Snake.

 

[ghostbat12]

What would we do if we find ourselves in the likely position of Carlton matching?

In all likelihood, Carlton will move up the ladder a few spots reducing their compo, which would make it more likely that they match, rather than accept a pick around 10.

It might cost us 2 firsts (again).

Honestly, Carlton should simply let him go. Due to their poor management, he is essentially all banged up and longevity isn’t certain.

He definitely gave more to Carlton than vice Berea.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

In alphys defence he sounds and behaves like he is 15 years old. Maybe we should guide the young one to troll more effectively .

He sounded and behaved like that six or seven years ago though.

 

[MrWoollie]

Dean the greater over Mason the lesser

At first I was trying to work out who Mason Kemp was. Then it dawned on me... Cox.
Mayhaps perchance you have missed the brother/cousin/relation theme here?

Unless of course in my world renowned stratospheric level of ignorance I have missed a familial relationship here?

 

[eagles rule]

Honestly, Carlton should simply let him go. Due to their poor management, he is essentially all banged up and longevity isn’t certain.

He definitely gave more to Carlton than vice Berea.

I heard its more to do with Cripp`s partner that he wants to leave Melbourne but SOS seems to think its lack of finals .So Carlton to play finals in 2021 have gone hard at Williams and Saad and of course Martin in 2019 ..

 

[kerrazy]

He sounded and behaved like that six or seven years ago though.

Jesus Christ that was seven years ago! Where has the time gone?

 

[KO_KO]

I think Carlton ****ed up be getting rid of Ratten, he had them performing well and still got the arse. He’s going on at the saints now.


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[Patron]

Brayshaw


It certainly looks like we got the 'lesser brother' again. In this case the lesser than the lesser brother.

We seem to make a bit of a habit of it when it comes to family selections...

Ah Chee the lesser,
Selwood the lesser, followed by,
Selwood the even lesser,
Cameron the lessor,
Cripps the lessor (cousin in this case).

You conveniently left out Naitanui. I think we got the best one there. M brown maybe also?

 

[ChampRevesby]

You conveniently left out Naitanui. I think we got the best one there. M brown maybe also?

I wonder how much longer NN can go on for. I imagine his minutes will continue to drop as time goes on.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

You conveniently left out Naitanui. I think we got the best one there. M brown maybe also?

Also the best LeCras (anyone remember Brent?)

 

[xInfected_Virus]

What would we do if we find ourselves in the likely position of Carlton matching?

In all likelihood, Carlton will move up the ladder a few spots reducing their compo, which would make it more likely that they match, rather than accept a pick around 10.

It might cost us 2 firsts (again).

The more big names Carlton get, the harder it will be for them to match a bid for Cripps without having to get rid of depth. There's a good chance they'll be getting Papley in 2021 (over paying him too) so we'll have a much better chance at getting Cripps for nothing if that happens.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

The more big names Carlton get, the harder it will be for them to match a bid for Cripps without having to get rid of depth. There's a good chance they'll be getting Papley in 2021 (over paying him too) so we'll have a much better chance at getting Cripps for nothing if that happens.

Doesn’t look like Papley will be moving before his contract expires in 2023: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...-he-s-staying-with-swans-20200915-p55vy2.html

 

[maverick001]

Looking forward to watching Langdon, Cameron, Jones fighting it out for small forward spots. Maybe we’ll see Ryan given some midfield minutes to fit a couple in. Our midfield depth suddenly isn’t an issue if we can rotate Duggan, Ryan through there and have Waterman and Cripps have stints on a wing. We just need players and coaches to be versatile

Disagree. Midfield depth to me is having guys who can step into a midfield role when the A team goes down. None of those guys could do that, except maybe Duggan at a pinch.
And Cripps and Waterman having stints on a wing doesn't excite me a great deal. Ryan I'm sure would be creative for short periods in there, but that means we don't have him in the forward line.....

 

[maverick001]

Jakovich the lesser

full proof amirite Dark Sharks

Peter Matera

Peter Matera

Age

56

Ht

183cm

Wt

89kg

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Fwd

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Last 5

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18.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.6

3star

G

0.6

3star

says hi too.

 

[maverick001]

I think Carlton f’ed up be getting rid of Ratten, he had them performing well and still got the arse. He’s going on at the saints now.


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Yep thought that at the time too. It's all come undone since then.
I think it was 2012, about 6 rounds in, Carlton supporters were dreaming of Grand Finals

 

[ChampRevesby]

Yep thought that at the time too. It's all come undone since then.
I think it was 2012, about 6 rounds in, Carlton supporters were dreaming of Grand Finals

I keep forgetting that Carlton even exists.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

Woke up feeling dangerous today, might call in AFL trade radio and educate these "Journos". Might also hang up on them, circa 2012 (Terry Wallace).

Also woke up feeling a little extra dangerous, might mess around and jump on the Geelong board and tell some more campaigners to move along.

RIP comrade DKRalphy

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

Thoughts on this deal?

WCE trade Hickey and a future third to Sydney for a future second.

WCE trade our future second (not Sydney’s) to Brisbane for Witherden.

Means we get Witherden and a likely upgrade in the 2021 second round for Hickey and a future third.

Sydney get Hickey for a likely downgrade next year from the 20s to the 40s or 50s.

Brisbane get a likely pick in the 30s for Witherden.

I Like that trade Miguel, I would still like to see Warner included in the trade somehow

 

[MrWoollie]

You conveniently left out Naitanui. I think we got the best one there. M brown maybe also?

I didn't consider family members who never made it onto an AFL list at all.
I'm sure that there are 100s, maybe 1000s of players who had brothers who either didn't play or played at amateur of lower league level.

I'm pretty sure that NN's brother never made it onto an AFL team list..

The obvious better brothers we have had wins with were Jakovich and McGovern.

 

[Clarkythelion]

That other mid could be Anderson from North's. Heard that Lion's are interested.

Witherden to us frees up the cap space and a list spot.

You all know who I'd prefer.

We don't have cap space issues, that are public anyway, and we have Steph Martin still without a contract as well as Lester so if push came to shove we could cut them free. We also have Adams, he is a west Australian I think. Injury prone but a top 22 at any club when fit and would be twice the money of Witherden and also with 2 years on his contract. Witherden isn't on huge money although when he did extend his contract he was best 22 at the time. If there is someone else thats not public yet, and we are pretty good at keeping things on the low, it might be the case. Witho is currently away with the 'popular' group of players and their partners seemingly having a great time (from social media) I just don't see him going over to you guys as a Victorian kid less it's huge money North Melbourne, Hawthorne or the Bombers would seem a more likely scenario but I just think its all speculation.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Todays the day gaiz.



Ainsworth delisted

Hickey traded to Sydney for future 2nd

Withers traded in for West Coast future 2nd

Langdon traded in for West Coast pick 54



If Vozzo hasn't made all that happen by Lunch i'm not getting Subway

 

[Obeanie1]

We don't have cap space issues, that are public anyway, and we have Steph Martin still without a contract as well as Lester so if push came to shove we could cut them free. We also have Adams, he is a west Australian I think. Injury prone but a top 22 at any club when fit and would be twice the money of Witherden and also with 2 years on his contract. Witherden isn't on huge money although when he did extend his contract he was best 22 at the time. If there is someone else thats not public yet, and we are pretty good at keeping things on the low, it might be the case. Witho is currently away with the 'popular' group of players and their partners seemingly having a great time (from social media) I just don't see him going over to you guys as a Victorian kid less it's huge money North Melbourne, Hawthorne or the Bombers would seem a more likely scenario but I just think its all speculation.

Lions cap space will be starting to tighten up. Just signed Daniher, both Andrews and Cameron would have got a nice boost and all those top draft picks are maturing into decent talent. Neale from Freo wouldnt have come cheap and until trade period is over you dont know who else the Lions are chasing.

On top of that list sizes and cap is being reduced by head office.