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Yep. Australia as a whole is centralist society. We are a very multicultural, our systems on the whole work, there is no excestential threat, people in general get along. The fringe groups get more press than they deserve, whether left or right. Even The Nationals who some of zealots want to paint as Fascists are just looking after what they believe to be the interests of country people.
I wonder if Gladys slept with Morrison in order to get more vaccine than Victoria ?
She won't be able to recall
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Thanks for ruining my breakfast with that image ...I wonder if Gladys slept with Morrison in order to get more vaccine than Victoria ?
I agree with most of this, but there certainly is an existential crisis of democracy.Yep. Australia as a whole is centralist society. We are a very multicultural, our systems on the whole work, there is no excestential threat, people in general get along. The fringe groups get more press than they deserve, whether left or right. Even The Nationals who some of zealots want to paint as Fascists are just looking after what they believe to be the interests of country people.
They really aren't though as when it comes to climate change and environmental issues they are going to be the first to suffer when floods, fires & drought becomes the norm
A few boomers die. A few health care workers get some overtime, the rest of get on with our lives. Seems pretty straightforward.
I agree with most of this, but there certainly is an existential crisis of democracy.
There ALWAYS is.
They are looking after the mine owners that pay their bills!
and the Liberal party look after the interests of business and rich people and the Labor party look after the interests of the working person and poor people.......Even The Nationals who some of zealots want to paint as Fascists are just looking after what they believe to be the interests of country people.
You said it. I regularly worked 9 or 10 hours a day for just over 7 hours pay. Never got overtime nor Toil.We don't get OT in health. We get unpaid overtime
There is a massive worldwide movement which has been brewing for years and we are becoming part of it.Democracy in this country has long been a narrow funnel.
Choose Party A (Red) or Party B (Blue).
Both not that different.
Hence Turnbull and Rudd being interchangeable.
But something has flipped.
The whole idea of Red or Blue owning the middle ground has changed.
The far right now tries to control the Blue through capitalist conservatism.
The left is still toggling between inner city and blue collar while not changing very much (i.e. the flip on property legislation changes).
Media seems to be what is causing this divide, with the far right media becoming more so, while the CBS led left is slowing moving left.
Aunty still clinging to the middle but sliding left.
Are the media doing this to represent the US situation as we become the 53rd state or is there more to it?
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and the Liberal party look after the interests of business and rich people and the Labor party look after the interests of the working person and poor people.......
Yep. Neither has PG’s take on the national party.This hasn't been true for a very long time.
Yep. Neither has PG’s take on the national party.
is this like 'your 50 times more likely to be a crows supporter is your mum sips chardonnay and your dad drinks southwick?Pretty good numbers. What about over 30, 40
And 50? I’d like to see it by decades
One nation?Yeah the traditional broad base of each party is:
Labor - The working class/Public Servants/the poor
Liberal - Business, small business and the middle/upper class
The Nationals - Country People/Farmers
The Greens - Environmentalists
Broadly it is still sort of true but not wholly true.
labor - working class? 20 years ago maybe but not now, their base is upper class house wife who needs to easy their social conscience, inner city yuppy who identifies with their roots and poor dole bludger who wants the extra $20 they will throw at them.Yeah the traditional broad base of each party is:
Labor - The working class/Public Servants/the poor
Liberal - Business, small business and the middle/upper class
The Nationals - Country People/Farmers
The Greens - Environmentalists
Broadly it is still sort of true but not wholly true.
one nation is disillusioned nats & libs who have the wisdom to see the car-crash coming around the corner but are 10 years ahead of their time to be taken seriously and a couple of bitter labor voters who are still angry with the removals of tariffs by the hawke/keating governments.One nation?
one nation is disillusioned nats & libs who have the wisdom to see the car-crash coming around the corner but are 10 years ahead of their time to be taken seriously and a couple of bitter labor voters who are still angry with the removals of tariffs by the hawke/keating governments.
There is a massive worldwide movement which has been brewing for years and we are becoming part of it.
The Right and Far Right believe in helping those who help themselves.
Now in theory this is a good thing.
The problem is that they interpret those helping themselves as billionaires, mining magnates, Exxon, large and very powerful religious organisations etc.
Scomo trying to bring in here similar things to some US states such as push for voter ID to attempt to keep his party in power when our voting system seems to work just fine. So where did that come from? Sow the seeds.
Stop the Steal
is occurring in places like Brazil with Bolsonaro trying the strategy similar to the GOP. Repeat the lie often enough and people start to believe you.
Power corrupts we all know that.
Neither side of politics is immune but Scomo is definitely not to be trusted.
Sadly there is a dearth of good leaders worldwide on either side. Oh for the good old days![]()
Wow, the guy who wanted the refugee players on our list to shut up and stick to footy and thinks Adam Goodes is a 'flog of the highest order' is a One Nation sympathiser. Colour me absolutely shocked.