Cripps vs Bontempelli

mickelboy182 · Sep 17, 2016

Bonts is a star, but was anyone else perplexed as I was that the Hawks gave him no attention at all? He was constantly in massive pockets of space

SurreyBlue · Sep 17, 2016

The Cripps vs Bonts battles will be intriguing in a few years time. Bonts has a lot of support right now and once we get Cripps some it will be great to watch. Looking forward to these.

JustaBattler · Sep 17, 2016

mickelboy182 said:
Bonts is a star, but was anyone else perplexed as I was that the Hawks gave him no attention at all? He was constantly in massive pockets of space

Because unlike the Hawks midfield - Bonts can run ..

mickelboy182 · Sep 17, 2016

JustaBattler said:
Because unlike the Hawks midfield - Bonts can run ..

Wasn't even that, I'm talking stoppages where there was no one near him. Couldn't believe it.

Ambrosia · Sep 17, 2016

mickelboy182 said:
Wasn't even that, I'm talking stoppages where there was no one near him. Couldn't believe it.

Hawks probably backed their mids to work off Bont who while an excellent tackler doesn't pay close attention to his opponent as he backs himself to be more dangerous.

JustaBattler · Sep 17, 2016

mickelboy182 said:
Wasn't even that, I'm talking stoppages where there was no one near him. Couldn't believe it.

They tried the old rough up routine a few times - he laughed.

Show_Me_The_Money · Sep 17, 2016

Lace_Out said:
Bont is easily in front just on his abilty to use the ball so much better by foot alone. He hurts you with either form of disposal. Cripps's disposal by foot is average at best which is his biggest weakness at this point in time. If he can turn that around to at least be consistent by foot then he will be a more complete player.

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Absolute joke of a comment. Average at best?

Lace_Out · Sep 17, 2016

Correct, he doesn't hurt the opposition by foot.

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Show_Me_The_Money · Sep 17, 2016

Re Bontompelli, no way he will be given as much space next week. If he can reproduce that under a heavy tag then he will be headed to Fyfe territory.

Show_Me_The_Money · Sep 17, 2016

Lace_Out said:
Correct, he doesn't hurt the opposition by foot.

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Rubbish. He has had his troubles in front of goal but that is the yips, nothing more. The man has excellent technique. I think you need to reword your opinion, average at best is just plain silly. Pretty sure I saw the Bont in acres of space crucially turn the ball over twice last night. Happens to every player.

Lace_Out · Sep 17, 2016

If he does not have elite skills by foot and struggles with penetration how can his kicking be anything other than average? I never said below average.
Now Deisel williams was elite.

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Beer n Skittles · Sep 17, 2016

Show_Me_The_Money said:
Rubbish. He has had his troubles in front of goal but that is the yips, nothing more. The man has excellent technique. I think you need to reword your opinion, average at best is just plain silly. Pretty sure I saw the Bont in acres of space crucially turn the ball over twice last night. Happens to every player.

Don't know why some people find the word 'average' to be such an insult. You could name a whole bunch of players who are worse kicks, but also name at least as many who are better kicks. Puts him around average

El Topo · Sep 17, 2016

The Juddster was an average kick. Paddy's tracking just fine :rainbow:

Lace_Out · Sep 17, 2016

Judd was better than average. Have a look at some of his goals in his younger days. His groins where stuffed by the time he joined us and his kicking was never the same.

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passmark · Sep 17, 2016

Its true the Hawks didn't pay him enough respect, but all the same he's a special player.

I've always thought he was a more complete footballer than Cripps but Cripps must scare the bejeezus out of opposition teams judging by the two people who are always hanging off him at stoppages.

IronMan29 · Sep 17, 2016

passmark said:
Its true the Hawks didn't pay him enough respect, but all the same he's a special player.

I've always thought he was a more complete footballer than Cripps but Cripps must scare the bejeezus out of opposition teams judging by the two people who are always hanging off him at stoppages.

DollarsandSense · Sep 17, 2016

Don't know how... But stumbled across this.... I think I've watched it about 20 times... P. Cripps. Come on down.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-31/21-days-to-the-draft-meet-patrick-cripps

PP34 · Sep 28, 2016

I'd take Bont right now because he takes his chances better than Cripps does around goal, and he can do a heck of a lot of damage with only 20 touches, because his foot skills are so good.

Cripps isn't very far off at all though, and they'll be battling it out amongst the best midfielders in the game for years to come. Just hope Crippa can find a way to work on his kicking and improve it a bit.

therubbernub · Sep 28, 2016

Its the old argument really. Cripps brings so many others into the game with his inside work. He is heavily tagged compared to bont. The Bont though is so creative, but would cripps be just as creative if he didnt have 2 opposition players hanging off him? I think after these finals he will get more of a tag, but to be honest, how do you shut down all the doggie mids?
Thats why it is so important that we extend the depth of our midfield group- we need 4-5 gun mids so that the opposition cant take them all out of the game. Look at geelong they shut down all their secondary mids guthrie and co so that selwood and dangerfield alone were not enough.

I bleed Blue · Sep 28, 2016

Bont hurts the opposition. He is a fair bit ahead of Cripps.

Lace_Out · Sep 28, 2016

Bonts hurts the opposition with his breakaway speed which is what Paddy lacks.

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Coops93 · Sep 28, 2016

therubbernub said:
Cripps brings so many others into the game with his inside work.

I remember Judd's first few years with us, he was almost a full on inside mid. It didn't start to open up for him for a few years until Murphy started to really come on, Curnow started to provide the bigger body and Carrazzo wasn't tagging quite as much.

I remember him being in packs with guys hanging off of him and next thing you know you'd see the ball leave the pack into another guys bread basket and you'd be thinking, 1 How did that ball get out of there? 2 how did he manage to actually hit a target from that position?

I think the same thing about Cripps so often now. It's remarkable.

Coops93 · Sep 28, 2016

Lace_Out said:
Bonts hurts the opposition with his breakaway speed which is what Paddy lacks.

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I don't think Bontompelli is really known for his breakaway speed though is he?

He doesn't seem that quick. Just a smooth mover, like Pendlebury.

Lace_Out · Sep 28, 2016

Clearly quicker than Crippa.

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Coops93 · Sep 28, 2016

Lace_Out said:
Clearly quicker than Crippa.

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I wouldn't be sure on that either.

I would argue he's a lot more agile though. Able to move sidewards, stop start better than Cripps.

Then again, Cripps did turn Bernie Vince inside out in the centre of the MCG a year ago, and Vince is no slouch by any stretch...

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