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Amazing scenes at Packer Park yesterday with the 2s getting up for their first win in two years for Joffa Egan's 350th and final game for the club.

In the seniors a Prahran player was yellow carded half way through the third quarter, a minute later he gave the umpy a spray from the bench and copped a black card. Prahran kept playing with 18 players and a count was called a few minutes later. They were found to have too many on the ground even though one tried to sneak off while the umpires weren't watching, the crowd made sure that didn't happen. The saints then kicked the next 7 goals. Prahran not happy and on the phone to Benny Goodman at 3/4 trying to get their player back on. I think we'll here a bit more about this one from the VAFA.


Some clarification before people make unsubstantiated claims.

We always had 18 players on because we were never told to remove a player by the umpire. Yellow cards can be replaced, they were, then the black card was provided and the player was immediately escorted away and our understanding, and the correct interpretation, was that we did not have to take a player off. Note the umpire did not tell us to take a player off as a result.

We had called Benny Goodman to clarify the fact that he had been black carded off the ground, meaning that we could continue with 18 players.

Confusion reigned, the Glen Eira runner sought clarification from the umpire, who I might add never told us to take any extra player off the ground when he black carded our player.

A head count wasthen called, as we were in fact in the process of making a change from the bench, not trying to "sneak" a player off becuase at no stage did we hide the fact we had 18 players on the ground.

We were ordered to have another player taken from the ground incorrectly after the head count and the umpire also awarded a free kick in the goal square.

The umpire confirmed that his interpretation was that it was 15 minutes with one player down.

We in fact had 18 players on the ground for the last 5 minutes of the 3rd term as per the umpire's instructions, and in fact it was still thought we only had 17 on the ground before the resumption of the last quarter but we already in fact had 18.

Therefore:

We complied with the umpire's change in decision (I reiterate he did not tell us to take another player from the ground when he handed the player a black card) despite the fact we had clarification we had a right to have 18 players on the ground.

We did not attempt to sneak a player off, it was a genuine rotation and the situation was ridiculously confusing

We then accepted the gifted goal which completely destroyed any momentum we had achieved (note we were three points down at the time and had been dominating inside 50s),

We played the next 15 minutes with 17 and

Benny spoke on the mobile to the umpires at 3/4 time by his request, not ours.

To say that it was a farce is an understatement, but we handled the situation as best we could given the obvious error and the fact that every man and his dog was sharing their opinions, and furthermore the decision effectively ruined any chance we had of winning a game that was critical to our way forward for the rest of the season.

Full credit to Glen Eira because they were clearly the superior side by the end of the day, but I believe the PAFC handled the sitution in the right manner and did not try and fabricate or mislead in any way shape or form, despite the error having an extremely negative impact on our prospects of winning a very important game.

Will be interesting to see what comes of it but I would suggest nothing. It was a mistake but c'est la vie, our players shouldn't have been so undisciplined in the first place.
 
Back to the footy, and with the break coming up this week, it looks as if things are starting to take a little bit of shape.

Interesting to see how bloody even everything seems.

Anyone prepared to throw a final 4 out there?
 
Can someone more learned than I correct me if I am getting confused here?

Lots of people get confused.

Yellow: Audible obscenity, or Unruly Behaviour in U18 and U19. Off for 12 minutes plus time on (12 minutes playing time), can be replaced immediately. Not reported, but recorded on an Incident Report Sheet.

Three yellows in a season = two weeks, tops.

Red: Off for 12 minutes plus time on, can return or be replaced after 12 minutes. Report.

Black: Off for rest of game, can be replaced after 12 minutes. Report.

Blacks will usually earn a trip to Elsternwick as most umps will tick the tribunal box, preventing the player from taking the prescribed.

Reported players may not come up on the website, if the VAFA is holding an investigation into the incident, or if they have been held over to the following week.
 
Been awhile since a Therry post has been on, thought I’d chime in.

Firstly, congrats to Joffa from Glen Eira playing his 350th and final game, a great effort and a true gentleman – sensational effort to get the win for him too.

Interesting results from the week-end, competition still very even with Banyule deservedly on top with the weeks break.

Thought I’d get on here to talk about the senior game between Bentleigh & Therry game at Arthur Street Reserve on Saturday.

Bizarre day in my book. Played the last quarter and a half in the dark, lights on & yellow footy.

This post may look to some like being a “sore loser”…..I can cop that….that’s fine.

It also may look like Bentleigh was a far superior side on the day…..that’s fine.

Therry may not have handled the conditions in the 2nd half as well as their opponents………that’s fine.

What isn’t fine is the disgraceful act on the football field in the first quarter by number 81 for Bentleigh that lined up and crunched a Therry player with his head over the ball (ala Michael Long vs Troy Simmonds – circa 2000 Grandfinal – but worse) – For those who say, he was going for the ball….crapola. He had a decision to make, for a long time, and chose the cowardly act to hit him as hard as he could in the top of the head ….ambulance came onto the ground, player was sent off (should have been black carded)….1st quarter went for 52 minutes, 8 minutes shy of the game being called off. Therry's player is now OK despite a severe headache, some stitches in his head and a very sore neck, all feeling in his arms and legs have returned. He was released from the Alfred Hospital at 1 am, Sunday morning.

Player tried to take the 3 weeks after the game. It will be heard at the tribunal.

What occurred after this in my book is a lot worse….we had a player, who was obviously unconscious for a long time, who had been convulsing on the ground, waiting for an ambulance, everyone concerned. The Bentleigh bench, coach staffincluded acting jovial towards the situation…..Number 44, Kyle Swindon was riding on an exercise bike actually laughing at the situation….laughing whilst it was unknown whether or not our player would end up a paraplegic. This isn’t an overreaction….it was the worst act during a football match I have ever seen, I have been involved and played in amateur football for 20 years.

Not on here to seek retribution just thought I’d update you all on what kind of people we have in our competition.

I was proud of our boys for remaining disciplined from that point on, and remaining focused on the ball. Unfortunately we were beaten on the day.


May I ask who the Therry player is, as I know a few of the Therry boys...
 

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The evidence is really stacking up against Bentleigh. I saw the incident on Saturday and it was sickening. I didnt see a whole lot of concern from the bentleigh bench but i also didnt see them laughing. thankfully the player is alright. Then there was the alleged "king hit" behind play the week before. And apprently the week before that their twos umpire pushed a St. marys player over after copping some abuse! Absurd i know!

I only saw last saturdays incident so i shouldnt comment on the other two but if true the club needs to take a good hard look at themselves
 
The evidence is really stacking up against Bentleigh. I saw the incident on Saturday and it was sickening. I didnt see a whole lot of concern from the bentleigh bench but i also didnt see them laughing. thankfully the player is alright.

Nostradamus can you please suggest what more the Bentleigh bench may have done to assist? They provided both trainers that they had available plus an additional supporter from outside of the ground with 2 of the 3 being involved in the fire brigade so well equipped to deal with such situations (I realise this has been mentioned before). Just interested to hear your thoughts.

The injured player was completely surrounded as it was, having had both teams trainers there so there was little more that could be done other than waiting for the ambulance to arrive.

As stated previously Bentleigh FC are extremely pleased to hear that the Therry player will be alright as no-one wants something like that to happen to anyone out on the field.
 
Nostradamus can you please suggest what more the Bentleigh bench may have done to assist? They provided both trainers that they had available plus an additional supporter from outside of the ground with 2 of the 3 being involved in the fire brigade so well equipped to deal with such situations (I realise this has been mentioned before). Just interested to hear your thoughts.

The injured player was completely surrounded as it was, having had both teams trainers there so there was little more that could be done other than waiting for the ambulance to arrive.

As stated previously Bentleigh FC are extremely pleased to hear that the Therry player will be alright as no-one wants something like that to happen to anyone out on the field.



So why did the incident happen then Flashbang?

No one is saying your trainer's and member's of the firebrigade in the crowd didn't do a good job to support, what I'm saying is, that your bench were laughing about the incident....I was standing right beside your bench at the time...it happened.

J.Hanlon is the player's name.

Last post from me about the incident, i'm sure we will see the result at the tribunal tonight. Enjoy the break everyone.
 
The evidence is really stacking up against Bentleigh. I saw the incident on Saturday and it was sickening. I didnt see a whole lot of concern from the bentleigh bench but i also didnt see them laughing. thankfully the player is alright. Then there was the alleged "king hit" behind play the week before. And apprently the week before that their twos umpire pushed a St. marys player over after copping some abuse! Absurd i know!

I only saw last saturdays incident so i shouldnt comment on the other two but if true the club needs to take a good hard look at themselves

I would like a new thread. "This weeks report from feral land".
 
I would like a new thread. "This weeks report from feral land".

What is your obsession with Bentleigh? You seem to have a fair grudge against our club for someone who is located in the same suburb. Questions have to be asked what started your gripe, did you previously get "wronged" by someone at the club in the past? Or are you a past player who was overlooked in a Bentleigh team? Or was it simply that someone cut you off at the local shopping centre?

You sound very similar another poster from a team located near the Bentleigh area, who also has his location as "Bentleigh". Doing some investigations, it seems that your account started about the last time the "other poster" last visited Big Footy.:cool:

I just don't understand the feral tag
 
Gee what a week in footy

By all reports im glad to hear that the therry player will be OK but may be out for at least 1 month

Lets hope the tribunal takes that into account when they dish out the penalty this evening

D2 is shaping into a cracker of a year.

Who will drop off and who will kick on??

A week off this week so i guess we will have to banter about anything and everything to keep us from going insane.

Sniper some more of the dolls will never go astray here :thumbsu:
 
Gee what a week in footy

By all reports im glad to hear that the therry player will be OK but may be out for at least 1 month

Lets hope the tribunal takes that into account when they dish out the penalty this evening

D2 is shaping into a cracker of a year.

Who will drop off and who will kick on??

A week off this week so i guess we will have to banter about anything and everything to keep us from going insane.

Sniper some more of the dolls will never go astray here :thumbsu:

It is, isn't it? Everything is really even meaning every week is very important.

I think Banyule & Bentleigh will play finals in both grades, with the remaining spots up for grabs (although OP look very comfortable in the reserves).

Who do we think will pinch these spots?
 
Sniper, I like a lot of others have had a crack at your club. So don't you think there is something wrong down there. What with king hits, supporters abusing, ordinary reserves umpires, language etc. etc. etc. And I am not a member or never was a member of your club, but my experience with your juniors tells the same tale. Why don't you read through the archives of D2 and D3 big footy and see how many have commented on your club. Do you think they all have an obsession? Some examples, Killerwasp, Number70, Nostradamus, Eggbert, Drybones, Twiggy Monsen. There are many more that are obsessed with your club in the archives.
 
Gee what a week in footy

Sniper some more of the dolls will never go astray here :thumbsu:

As requested footywhereever.

I've delged throught the Bay 13 archives for this little gem. But viewer beware the link is a little risque, so those in a the office surrounded by lesbians, feminists & do-gooders, be sure to open when safe.

Thread starts off slow, but recovers beautifully around post #13.
*Be sure to keep a look out for 2 black dots on page 2 going side to side on your screen, you'll see what I mean ;)
*And a maybe young lass who has made a few headlines recently...I think?

Anyway fellow D2 bloggers enjoy

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=714656
 

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Back to the footy, and with the break coming up this week, it looks as if things are starting to take a little bit of shape.

Interesting to see how bloody even everything seems.

Anyone prepared to throw a final 4 out there?

1. Banyule
2. Bentleigh
3. Old Westbourne
4. Old Paradians

OP deserve the final spot on the pure fact they have shown they can knock off the top 2 sides, all they need now is to do the same against the lower placed clubs in the second half of the year and they could be a real finals contender!

On Saturdays incident, you hate seeing players, whether yours or the oppositions get taken away in the back of an ambulance, I guess there is no point on giving my 2 cents worth as both clubs have different versions of what happened! From where I was, it looked liked both players put their heads over the footy and went hard it!

To refer to the club as a bunch of ferals is a disgrace!! As for the laughing matter on the mention, lets get fairdinkum, 25 minutes of standing there and your telling the if anyone around or inside the ground cracked a smile or had a laugh it was purely because of the injured player on the ground?? Lets get serious.

Anyone know why there was no C-D4 game this year?

The break comes in a good time, as I am sure most clubs have some sore bodies that could use a weeks break and to get them right for the 2nd half of the year!

Enjoy the break and let's talk D2 footy!
 
Amazing scenes at Packer Park yesterday with the 2s getting up for their first win in two years for Joffa Egan's 350th and final game for the club.

In the seniors a Prahran player was yellow carded half way through the third quarter, a minute later he gave the umpy a spray from the bench and copped a black card. Prahran kept playing with 18 players and a count was called a few minutes later. They were found to have too many on the ground even though one tried to sneak off while the umpires weren't watching, the crowd made sure that didn't happen. The saints then kicked the next 7 goals. Prahran not happy and on the phone to Benny Goodman at 3/4 trying to get their player back on. I think we'll hear a bit more about this one from the VAFA.


the only time you would ring benny goodman is if you needed advise on getting a rug.
 
Sniper, I like a lot of others have had a crack at your club. So don't you think there is something wrong down there. What with king hits, supporters abusing, ordinary reserves umpires, language etc. etc. etc. And I am not a member or never was a member of your club, but my experience with your juniors tells the same tale. Why don't you read through the archives of D2 and D3 big footy and see how many have commented on your club. Do you think they all have an obsession? Some examples, Killerwasp, Number70, Nostradamus, Eggbert, Drybones, Twiggy Monsen. There are many more that are obsessed with your club in the archives.

Are we talking about the same thing a turncoat?
 
Are we talking about the same thing a turncoat?

While we are on Bentleigh why not add in the dubious two goal umpring decisons from a 16 year old kid in Round One, particularly the one that decided the game and the racial vilification of a Prahran supporter and Committee man post match and you'd have to say it's an impressive rap sheet the club is building up
 
While we are on Bentleigh why not add in the dubious two goal umpring decisons from a 16 year old kid in Round One, particularly the one that decided the game and the racial vilification of a Prahran supporter and Committee man post match and you'd have to say it's an impressive rap sheet the club is building up

Now we are clutching at straws, the 16 kid year old kid goal umpiring was questioned & ridiculed by his mate on this decision on facebook, to which he angrily replied "F**K OFF mate, his foot was through, it was a point" or words to that effect. So when he says this I would tend to believe him.

As you might be aware volunteers to help with match day duties, whether it be goal umpires, umpires, boundaries, waterboys etc are hard to come by. If I kept a run sheet of all the sketchy goal umpiring descisions that I've seen of the years, it would crash Big Footy. The 16 years kid in question does a fantastic job boundary umpiring the 2s then backing up with the goal umpiring for the 1s week in week out.

The issue of racial vilification that you discuss I can not comment on as I did not hear or see this but if you say it happened it must of happened :rolleyes:

Other incidents that Bentleigh are now coming forward & claiming responsibility for are:
The Holocaust
The Hindenburg Disaster
JFK Assassination
Hurricane Katrina
World Trade Centre Bombing
September 11
Kidnapping the Beaumont children
Wall Street Crash
Starvation in Africa
The Great Fire of London
The Great Depression
Westgate Bridge collapse
The Pyramid Scheme
Collingwood winning the 1990 Premiership
 
Now we are clutching at straws, the 16 kid year old kid goal umpiring was questioned & ridiculed by his mate on this decision on facebook, to which he angrily replied "F**K OFF mate, his foot was through, it was a point" or words to that effect. So when he says this I would tend to believe him.

As you might be aware volunteers to help with match day duties, whether it be goal umpires, umpires, boundaries, waterboys etc are hard to come by. If I kept a run sheet of all the sketchy goal umpiring descisions that I've seen of the years, it would crash Big Footy. The 16 years kid in question does a fantastic job boundary umpiring the 2s then backing up with the goal umpiring for the 1s week in week out.

The issue of racial vilification that you discuss I can not comment on as I did not hear or see this but if you say it happened it must of happened :rolleyes:

Other incidents that Bentleigh are now coming forward & claiming responsibility for are:
The Holocaust
The Hindenburg Disaster
JFK Assassination
Hurricane Katrina
World Trade Centre Bombing
September 11
Kidnapping the Beaumont children
Wall Street Crash
Starvation in Africa
The Great Fire of London
The Great Depression
Westgate Bridge collapse
The Pyramid Scheme
Collingwood winning the 1990 Premiership

Well given the field umpire claimed the kid said it came from above the player's knee in the dialogue shared with him, I guess in the words of Ron Burgundy we'll Whales Vagina it and agree to disagree.

And yes, as your clever and witty little roll eyes emoticon implied (are you 14), I did just suddenly decide to make up a story whereby one of your Match Committee members felt it appropriate to call one of our supporters and Committee Members a black c*** just so that you can divert the fact that your club seems to have an inordinate number of unsavoury incidents by making grandiose statements about what Bentleigh is responsible for that you think are particularly humorous.

I have nothing against Bentleigh whatsoever, but maybe the 16 yo kid is not the most appropriate person to be goal umpiring, and maybe your big mouthed match committee member just had an error of judgement or said something that was misconstrued as unacceptable to most.

But anyway, good luck for the rest of the year and hopefully there will be less posters out to have a crack at Bentleigh as we realise that your club is in fact the victim in most of these incidents rather than the antagonist.
 

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Now we are clutching at straws, the 16 kid year old kid goal umpiring was questioned & ridiculed by his mate on this decision on facebook, to which he angrily replied "F**K OFF mate, his foot was through, it was a point" or words to that effect. So when he says this I would tend to believe him.

As you might be aware volunteers to help with match day duties, whether it be goal umpires, umpires, boundaries, waterboys etc are hard to come by. If I kept a run sheet of all the sketchy goal umpiring descisions that I've seen of the years, it would crash Big Footy. The 16 years kid in question does a fantastic job boundary umpiring the 2s then backing up with the goal umpiring for the 1s week in week out.

The issue of racial vilification that you discuss I can not comment on as I did not hear or see this but if you say it happened it must of happened :rolleyes:

Other incidents that Bentleigh are now coming forward & claiming responsibility for are:
The Holocaust
The Hindenburg Disaster
JFK Assassination
Hurricane Katrina
World Trade Centre Bombing
September 11
Kidnapping the Beaumont children
Wall Street Crash
Starvation in Africa
The Great Fire of London
The Great Depression
Westgate Bridge collapse
The Pyramid Scheme
Collingwood winning the 1990 Premiership


Hey Sniper,

I goal umpired the 2's against bentleigh and I am pretty sure that you called me a cheat. :D
 
'A turncoat' is an expert on Bentleigh despite never being a member of the club or having played at the club.His recollections are from junior footy.He fails to tell us which club he was involved with because it avoids any opportunity for scrutiny and others to remind him of the shortcomings of his club and possibly his behaviour as a player or coach.What a pity, but it is easier to slur a junior football club with an unfounded allegation so at to try and somehow score points with the other posters on this forum.
'A Turn coat' then brags about how he supposedly took on one of the Bentleigh feral supporters who promptly backed down. Well it sums your attitude and thinking that you believe that you must engage in a fight to prove a point. It also demonstrates that your demeanour is more befitting of the description feral.
I have been to numerous games involving Bentleigh and this supposed 'feral' behaviour you and others refer to is unfortunately a figment of your imagination. There is banter between supporters as there is at every game of football and now this is described as feral? Please gents let's bring some common sense back into this discussion.
Having watched games involving Glen Eira,Ormond Hampton Rovers and Oakleigh and let me tell you the supporters are not backwards in spraying abuse and ridicule at visiting supporters.But it is easier to focus on Bentleigh because they are beginning to have some success which is obviously annoying a few clubs and posters.
If a player does the wrong thing then he will suffer the consequences including the risk of civil and criminal action as was recently highlighted in the Herald Sun. Footy nowadays is played at a much faster rate, they hit hard and there will be accidents from time to time.The days of players being instructed to go out and take out a player are thankfully long gone, and if anyone decides that the 'King Hit' is still part of the game, then they should be suspended for a long time irrespective of which club they play for.
Midas complains about a decision in Round 1 blaming a 16 year old goal umpire and an alleged racial vilification issue after the game? Was it reported to the League or to Bentleigh? Why has it taken 9 rounds to say anything? If something was said then take action to stamp it out. I noticed that you are vociferous in your protests that you had 18 men on the field against Glen Eira, and you have the temerity to call Bentleigh a bunch of cheats?
 
Hey Sniper,

I goal umpired the 2's against bentleigh and I am pretty sure that you called me a cheat. :D

Good pick up Crazybear, but no.

Like I said I can go on about sketchy decisions all day like this one: you clearly called a kick out of bounds of the full - a point, (without even moving from the centre of the goals) frustration & sarcasm got the better of me on your next descision, when a high bouncing ball when through the goals.

Our player got a hand to it but only after it went through goals, I sarcastically stated "Of course it was a goal" and to which you replied "It was a goal you f**king little smart arse." For the record, it looked like a goal even from where I was standing, I just had to take it upon myself to make a point (thats just me as you can tell from the bombardment of posts lately)

Point is, I never called you a cheat & relise that you're only volunteering your time, just like our 16 year old kid. None of us are professionals or we'd be playing/coaching/officiating in the AFL. Probably or definately should keep my mouth closed next time.

Call it a back down if you will :eek:
 
Well given the field umpire claimed the kid said it came from above the player's knee in the dialogue shared with him, I guess in the words of Ron Burgundy we'll Whales Vagina it and agree to disagree.

And yes, as your clever and witty little roll eyes emoticon implied (are you 14), I did just suddenly decide to make up a story whereby one of your Match Committee members felt it appropriate to call one of our supporters and Committee Members a black c*** just so that you can divert the fact that your club seems to have an inordinate number of unsavoury incidents by making grandiose statements about what Bentleigh is responsible for that you think are particularly humorous.

Well why wasn't an offical complaint made to our club or the VAFA and not just on Big Footy nearly 7 weeks later. If it happened, which you strongly stated that it did, our club & the VAFA would not take this matter lightly nor humerously.

Like most clubs we have a mixture of diverse cultures at Bentleigh whether it be people of Asian, Jewish, Indian, Italian, Greek, or Macedonian decent & yes even red neck Australians so a matter of such seriousness would have been frowned upon severely.
 
Well well well hasn't the forum come to life!! What an interesting round of footy last week and from all reports everyone needs the week off after head counts, injuries, Racism, Volunteers etc.

Great to see a lot of passion for local D2 Ammo footy alive and well!

Also notice that the Bentleigh player in question received the 3 week penalty at the tribunal, wasn't that what he was offered after the game? Did the Therry player attend as a witness?
 
Also notice that the Bentleigh player in question received the 3 week penalty at the tribunal, wasn't that what he was offered after the game? Did the Therry player attend as a witness?

Previous post suggested he tried to take the prescribed but was denied by the umpires and told to go to the tribunal. Can't be certain this is accurate as only saw him briefly after the game but he was not sure what was going on with the report.

Therry player did not attend but provided stat dec.
 
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