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[Strangled Cat]

How do you know what we want? No one actually knows.....and no one actually knows what geelong are willing to give. It's all supporters talk at this stage

I don't know what the AFC want, nor do I know what the GFC is willing to trade, should it come to that situation. I was only talking about the supporters by saying that the demands plastered all over this thread were unrealistic, therefore even the best possible deal for the AFC would be one which still leaves you guys, the AFC supporters, as well as Graham Cornes a tad underwhelmed.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Why the fck would we be nervous? We are about to get one of the best players in the game for unders. Whatever we trade for him is going to be unders and you know it, whether its 2 first rounders or a first rounder and a player... Haha im so nervous about getting Danger good one.

Again

To all Geelong posters

If your going to post do I in a respectful manner

How many times to I need to say this.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Probbly just returning the favour from all the chest beating from you guys in our thread

I think the deal has already been done and just awaiting for trade week to announce it.

My stance on the deal I think will occur has been said enough .

If you have made your point than their is no need to keep positing until new information comes to light

 

[Bernie L]

Probbly just returning the favour from all the chest beating from you guys in our thread

I think the deal has already been done and just awaiting for trade week to announce it.

My stance on the deal I think will occur has been said enough .

Havent been there for ages. And dont want to either. The circle jerking would be monsterous.

 

[relapse]

So he is happy to screw over someone who gave his all to the club for 8 years, and deny him the right to go home/where he wants?....Not saying you dont deserve adequate compo, but seems like a dog thing to say from Roo dont you think?

#cantsaynotoroo

Can people stop over analysing every minute detail and jumping to conclusions about what is said on radio especially on MMM.

The Crows aren't going to refuse to trade Dangerfield, an amicable trade will be done between Adelaide and Geelong for Dangerfield. Yes there's chest beating going on from both sides, but there will be a happy medium found by both clubs at the trade table.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Guthrie, Duncan, Blicavs, Christensen, Gregson, Vardy all taken 2nd round or more... why am I debating Wells drafting skills?

You're right , he's a gun...just winding you up

Losing 2 first rounders won't matter as much with wells there

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Can people stop over analysing every minute detail and jumping to conclusions about what is said on radio especially on MMM.

The Crows aren't going to refuse to trade Dangerfield, an amicable trade will be done between Adelaide and Geelong for Dangerfield. Yes there's chest beating going on from both sides, but there will be a happy medium found by both clubs at the trade table.

Good post

Will Geelong get Paddy for free - no
Will the deal be better than compo pick - yes
Will the deal be full market value - maybe not however the cats will have to give up something significant

 

[relapse]

Probbly just returning the favour from all the chest beating from you guys in our thread

I think the deal has already been done and just awaiting for trade week to announce it.

My stance on the deal I think will occur has been said enough .

didn't you say that we were going to accept the compo pick ?

Now you're saying that there is a deal done

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I don't know what the AFC want, nor do I know what the GFC is willing to trade, should it come to that situation. I was only talking about the supporters by saying that the demands plastered all over this thread were unrealistic, therefore even the best possible deal for the AFC would be one which still leaves you guys, the AFC supporters, as well as Graham Cornes a tad underwhelmed.

Agree with this
Your board thinks we get nothing
Out board thinks we get 2 first rounders and a first 22 player

No doubt reality is somewhere in the middle ish although us receiving nothing isn't really a starting point

 

[TheLeftFist8]

The 2 1st rounders is bare minimum par.

Above that (e.g. adding Murdoch) may still not be true value but it would be an acceptable achievement.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Honestly for Patrick bloody Dangerfield how can Geelong's realistic starting point be anything less than 2 1sts or the equivalent in players.

Starting Point!! Anything less is just ridiculous, like offering 400k for a million dollar home.

Our starting point should be much higher of course.

 

[Jack McKraken]

Yeah they can do that in the PSD but I'm pretty sure they can't in the normal draft. The article was saying, if gets to that point, Dangerfield is going to stipulate a one year contract in the normal draft so teams won't want to take him before pick 9 and burn a good pick. Aside from the point that they could then get double the pick they "burned" the next year in trade, I don't think he can stipulate a contract length (or any conditions) in the main draft. To my knowledge they're two years standard and that can't be changed.

Vader?

Same rules regardless of national or PS draft.

Can go one year with no salary stipulations (danger for minimum salary?! You beauty!)

As soon as you mention $$$ its two year minimum.

 

[Catastic82]

didn't you say that we were going to accept the compo pick ?

Now you're saying that there is a deal done

To accept the compo pick

 

[ManInTheArena]

Probbly just returning the favour from all the chest beating from you guys in our thread

I think the deal has already been done and just awaiting for trade week to announce it.

I don't buy this. It's poor negotiation tactics to do the deal like that. It might work like that if one party offered/accepted a ridiculous deal but I can't see that happening.

My stance on the deal I think will occur has been said enough .

This is?

 

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Honestly for Patrick bloody Dangerfield how can Geelong's realistic starting point be anything less than 2 1sts or the equivalent in players.

Starting Point!! Anything less is just ridiculous, like offering 400k for a million dollar home.

Our starting point should be much higher of course.

I've said all along that we'll get 2 first rounders from Geelong.

The only way that a player will be involved will be if there is a three way deal done with Brisbane.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

To accept the compo pick

The only way this will happen is if

1. The AFL offer two decent first round picks

2. If Geelong and AFC do a side deal for your first round and we agree not to match and bank the AFL compo.pick as well

 

[baldandbroke]

Bernie knew..

What a champ !!

Love it - always liked Vince

Not if Adelaide and Geelong can't work something out. Roo makes a valid point. If someone like Melbourne pick him up for a year for free he loses his FA rights and if Geelong want him they have to give adequate compo at the trade table for him. If I were Melbourne I'd do it in a heartbeat.

This is why it is all hot-air ... they will be in exactly the same position next year, just with a different club. I can bet that this position was never discussed by anyone in the actual deal. No-one is going to these levels of risk for eff all gain. It's just media rubbish.

Sure is alot of (chest) beating in this thread from Geelong flogs.

Has their board shut down

No they all got 7 day bans (like me) and have nowhere else to post !

I don't know what the AFC want, nor do I know what the GFC is willing to trade, should it come to that situation. I was only talking about the supporters by saying that the demands plastered all over this thread were unrealistic, therefore even the best possible deal for the AFC would be one which still leaves you guys, the AFC supporters, as well as Graham Cornes a tad underwhelmed.

And being the reasonable poster you are - you feel the same about the demands plastered all over your thread and your media outlets? Geelong supporters are going to be a tad underwhelmed too. That is the nature of it, if it is done properly.

 

[Jack McKraken]

I've said all along that we'll get 2 first rounders from Geelong.

The only way that a player will be involved will be if there is a three way deal done with Brisbane.

Doesn't Jensen want to go to QLD? No idea of his worth, but could be the grease required to get one of Redden/Mayes/Aish here

 

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To accept the compo pick

You do realise that, "There's a deal already done, they're accepting the compo pick" is an oxymoron don't you ?

 

[Strangled Cat]

And being the reasonable poster you are - you feel the same about the demands plastered all over your thread and your media outlets? Geelong supporters are going to be a tad underwhelmed too. That is the nature of it, if it is done properly.

I'd like to think that Geelong could get Danger without giving up anything. I'd like to think that the AFL will give the same compensation as Geelong received for Ablett. In that case, the AFC won't match. I've posted what I think *could* happen as a best case scenario for Geelong, so I won't go 'round in circles doing that again. What I will say though, is that no matter the outcome, and it WON'T be two first rounders PLUS a 'quality' player, Geelong get Dangerfield and Adelaide lose Dangerfield. We'll always win, it will just come down to the degrees of the win or loss, depending on which side of the fence you view the situation from.

 

[marty36]

I don't know what the AFC want, nor do I know what the GFC is willing to trade, should it come to that situation. I was only talking about the supporters by saying that the demands plastered all over this thread were unrealistic, therefore even the best possible deal for the AFC would be one which still leaves you guys, the AFC supporters, as well as Graham Cornes a tad underwhelmed.

Have you changed your tune on trading now, for months it has been compo, no more? Yes Adelaide supporters want overs and yes a few Geelong supporters are agreeing to a trade, then you have the majority like the mods on the geelong board thinking no trade aswell as the majority of the board. face it, Scott has come out and said they are negotiating, you may aswell come out with what you think is fair.

Personally if the compo pick was in play you would go there but for that to work the side deal will be weighted n Adelaides way, sorry but Ken Wood will be looking at our trading and Geelongs too closely for any favors to be granted. Its unfortunate because I dont care if one of the 1st rounders came from compo, Geelong or even Melbourne. All crows supporters want is good compensation for their club I dont and all others dont care who gives it to us. Dont take it personally Im not interested in screwing Geelong if it was the Bulldogs I would want the same.

Its not about Geelong its about Adelaide coming 1st.

 

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The only way this will happen is if

1. The AFL offer two decent first round picks

2. If Geelong and AFC do a side deal for your first round and we agree not to match and bank the AFL compo.pick as well

There is an expectation now from the members and supporters that they're wanting the club to match and force a trade. It would be a PR nightmare for the club (even if the club did a side deal) if it were to turn around and let Dangerfield go as a RFA to Geelong.

If Geelong aren't offering Danger a godfather deal then the odds of us not matching would be .....

 

[Wood_Duck]

If for some reason Danger did end up in the ND any club would be nuts not to pick him up, even if he refused to play for them. The fact is the he has such good currency that you would treat him as a fixed term deposit. You use high draft pick in a poor draft this year and convert him to a high draft pick next year plus a high quality player. On the open market he is worth pick 1 in the draft.

 

[baldandbroke]

I'd like to think that Geelong could get Danger without giving up anything. I'd like to think that the AFL will give the same compensation as Geelong received for Ablett. In that case, the AFC won't match. I've posted what I think *could* happen as a best case scenario for Geelong, so I won't go 'round in circles doing that again. What I will say though, is that no matter the outcome, and it WON'T be two first rounders PLUS a 'quality' player, Geelong get Dangerfield and Adelaide lose Dangerfield. We'll always win, it will just come down to the degrees of the win or loss, depending on which side of the fence you view the situation from.

You see - you don't want to be judged by the actions of your whole board then do you? You can see that people on both sides of the fence are flying off the handle demanding either EVERYTHING or NOTHING. Instead of just discussing what you would like to happen - a way to improve the discussion is to discuss the movements away from those two extremes.So if you can remember this, and the fact you are on the AFC board - I'm sure you will be a useful addition to the discussion. If you are just gonna come over here to defend the Cats - or tell us how underwhelmed we are going to be - save that for your own board eh?

 

[footywedge]

If for some reason Danger did end up in the ND and club would be nuts not to pick him up, even if he refused to play for them. The fact is the he has such good currency that you would treat him as a fixed term deposit. You use high draft pick in a poor draft this year and convert him to a high draft pick next year plus a high quality player. On the open market he is worth pick 1 in the draft.

If he refused to play for them he'd expect some hefty sanctions too. That's more draft tampering than agreeing to an in-principle trade three years prior!