Especially for a team that needs to have a year of building up - ie delaying the pick would help their timing.
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If he isn't worth 2 early first rounders then no one is
Im actually amazed at Robbo's article suggesting a one year deal where PD would have to play for $100K odd, or nominate a salary and play for two, making him lose his FA and need to be traded again at contract end, if he tried that he would be 35 years of age by the time he gets to geelong. If he was considering that he may aswell have stayed at Adelaide on good coin for two years and walk for free, and Im not suggesting that, just a comparison. That is truly bad reporting or even predicting, a man with half a brain would come up with that idea, or a skinfull of beer.
... and yet it had the desired effect of generating clicks and discussion. He is not as much of an idiot as people would like to believe.
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This will not happen, if it does all involved at the AFC need to be sacked. A side deal will be obvious to everyone, so it will get investigated by the AFL and we will end up getting hit for 6.
You pick him up at say 5 or 6 this year and immediately offer him to Geelong for pick 1 or equivalent next year.
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All of a sudden Port would cool on Dixon and pick him up just to troll us!
My views change when the facts change. I certainly, initially felt that Geelong could and should make it as undesirable for the AFC to match as possible. But it appears as though Geelong will meekly roll over and more than what they should, gjven their list management situation. Having said that though, othing is actually fact when it's reported in the media, so wbo know whether Geelong are still creatively working on a contract which Adelaide simply can't match, whether Geelong and PD and Connors are devising a devious plan to circumvent handing over draft picks if and when Adelaide match, or whether both clubs have effectively skipped FA altogether and are currently in ttade negotiations. It's still too hard to be certain of anything at this stage.
I will be clear about something though: Geelong 'cleared the decks' so to speak with players and therefore currently have numerous list spots they need to fill. Without having their currently allotted amount of draft picks, I have no idea how thry plan to fill them. If they've done so without ensuring that they will retain the draft picks currently in their possession thrn they've stuffed up MONUMENTALLY. As it happens to stand, I give Geelong's administration more credit than that. So it'll be interesting to see how everything unfolds.
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A club would also pick him up and try and see if they could woo him into staying in the long term, if not he has massive trade value which would more than repay the pick they paid for him.
There's probably 5-10 players max in the comp worth what Danger is at the trade table. Anyone suggesting that pick 9 and some ****en spud like GHS is worthy compensation is absolutely dreaming.
Also good luck to Danger if he pulls a 1 year contract type deal. His reputation will suddenly take a fair hit. That'll probably hurt him more than the hip and shoulder he'll get from Tex next year.
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Geelong really should have waited two years, played the youngsters, banked some draft picks and then picked him up as an UFA.
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Nothing fact reported in the media? Try telling that to the Muppets on your board when Media reporter Danger was gone in about Round 2.
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Yep... Their administration truly are morons.
Once taken, he is bound to that club for two years- so he'll cooling his heels for awhile!
No way…the 'side deal' would still need to be close to equitable to ensure the trade goes thru…so essentially they would Danger AND something else for minimal cost! If we do that I'll be livid and downright disgusted.
Screw Geelong, pay something close to his worth or he can kiss his FA and Geelong dream down the toilet.
I'd rather all Geelong's picks than AFL compo picks. In our wildest dreams (and it shouldn't happen) Danger would get us a mid 1st rounder and end 1st rounder. Geelong's picks are better!!
Agreed.
They either need to offer a Godfather deal now or look up the word 'restricted' in the dictionary.
If by same hilarious miracle it all falls thru, we should sign Dangerfield on reduced $ and do our best to push him out the door next year. Yes this won't happen but I'd be laughing all summer long!
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I don't think they considered that we would match until late in the season, about the time that Jay Clark was writing the articles saying it would be unfair for us to match.
And that is why a deal will get done.
I cannot see a situation where Danger doesn't get to Geelong. It would be a nightmare for the Cats.
They must ensure he arrives safe and sound, and not on too much $$$. Their entire list strategy is based on being able to pay unders for the top end talent.
Every scenario where PD ends up at another club will result in Geelong having to pay more - for an older player. Never. Ever. Going. To. Happen.
AFC know this. Geelong know this. This is why when the deal is done a lot of Geelong supporters will scream at us saying what dogs we are for making them pay anything ... they will scream at the club for paying too much. In reality I would expect the Geelong admins to know a bit more about it and come to a real-life agreement.
Two first rounders would get it done I'd think. So much better than the compo pick and good to think Geelong would have to cough up something of value instead of getting him for nothing. Were they really expecting to get him for free? I don't think so. I don't think GFC could be that naive.
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In absence of a Godfather deal we were always going to match
I remember very early on - when I started thinking that PD was probably gone - that I posted something like this on the Geelong board. Trying to explain how taking something from Geelong was part of the benefits to AFC. I got howled down at the time ... that I would be so idiotic to think that taking from Geelong would help my club (who are nowhere near finals
)But of course it matters. We are competing in a very close competition ... and taking from your opponents strengthens your position.
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I must admit to being a little intrigued with this scenario. As has been pointed out before, a first round pick appears from the ether if we decide not to match... I know this is all pie in the sky stuff and unlikely to happen - and it would absolutely need to be cleared by the AFL before heading down this path - but consider the following:
Adelaide don't match and receive pick 14 as compensation. We do this knowing a further deal with Geelong will be struck.
Geelong then offer us pick 9 and a very promising youngster (Cockatoo or Gregson - whoever it is, they must be considered a first round equivalent talent).
In return, we give Geelong pick 14 and David Mackay (on the condition they pay a good proportion of his salary).
Geelong end up with Danger and an experienced player in MacKay who Adelaide only recently signed to a long term contract - so we are a little sad to let him go. All this for a promising youngster and a downgraded first round pick.
Adelaide end up with pick 9 and a promising youngster (1st round equivalent) - for one of the best players in the comp and the loss of an experienced player who we were keen to stay at the club for a long time... But it does open up some salary cap space and an opportunity for a youngster to step up, so we will probably cope.
I think this might wash... And it seems like a win-win... Doesn't it? It won't happen and I think I'm kidding... But still... Maybe?
The afl have approved a few of these side deals and will say yay or nay beforehand. Still on the table i would imagine.
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