Vic Daniel Andrews and the Statue of Limitations

[Sttew]

that's correct but I answered anyway because its like the dumbest question you could have asked

Why?

 

[Borisdog]

Did you cut one in half, deleting the kitchen?

Nope.

They're hotel rooms, as I said.

There are MILLIONS of Hotel Rooms in the World that don't have a kitchen.

 

[Gralin]

Why?

because you were clearly looking for a gotcha moment instead of discussing the situation like an adult

Nope.

They're hotel rooms, as I said.

There are MILLIONS of Hotel Rooms in the World that don't have a kitchen.

why on airbnb instead of through the hotel booking system then? ore are you on both?

 

[Sttew]

because you were clearly looking for a gotcha moment instead of discussing the situation like an adult

Sorry? What gotcha moment is that?

 

[jannissary]

surely there’s no cookers unhappy about this! a state funeral for one of our greatest footballers ever!

 

[Borisdog]

why on airbnb instead of through the hotel booking system then? ore are you on both?

Why let some-one else get a cut for my investment whilst at the same time losing transparency and completely losing control of my ability to maximise my own interests. Air BNB makes the lions share of their service fee from the guest, not the owner. They do play both ends for sure though, but generally the guest pays 4 times the service fee that I do.

Easy question for you.

Who has the biggest interest in my income, the hotel booking system or me?

 

[peetoo]

Dan is quoted in the HUN today (and on ABC Radio this morning) as saying there are more than 30,000 Airbnb properties that could / should be rented out long term. How many listings are like your properties, or conversely luxury properties that would be out of reach of most renters?

The sad thing about this is that it is ONLY because of Dan's financial incompetence that there is talk of a tax, a tax that will generate something like $20-30M a year, less than 1/10th of the $360M paid to get out of the Commonwealth Games contract!

In Oxford I stayed in someone’s hous whole he went to visit friends and his boyfriend moved into a flat in the garage.

It was like you moved into someone’s house and very disturbing experience. Food in the fridge etc etc etc.

 

[kalex6251]

 

[peetoo]

I’ll be. 65 next, so there’ll be one less. Although I did tactically vote teal last time

 

[Number37]

You've never stayed at an Airbnb?

No.

Airbnb is a parasitic organisation.

 

[Number37]

Yep.

Like in my case, I say my 2 AirBNB properties aren't suitable for long term rental.

They ARE hotel rooms. They don't have a kitchen.

I won't be the only one.

Hotel rooms are rooms found in hotels

 

[Borisdog]

Hotel rooms are rooms found in hotels

Yes. And some of those rooms are privately owned. About 30 out of 169 in my complex for instance.

 

[peetoo]

What about the ones left empty?

 

[Sttew]

No.

Airbnb is a parasitic organisation.

Airbnb is just a booking platform. It has filled a gap in the market that hotels cannot fill unless you are prepared to pay $1000/night.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Airbnb is just a booking platform. It has filled a gap in the market that hotels cannot fill unless you are prepared to pay $1000/night.

Lmao

Holiday homes and serviced apartments have existed since forever. Airbnb just came with a nifty app and a way to get around the red tape.

 

[Gralin]

No.

Airbnb is a parasitic organisation.

Yes and Sttew is going to disagree in the most bonkers way possible

Hotel rooms are rooms found in hotels

My uncle was looking at investing in hotel rooms decades ago. A new hotel was being built in Melbourne, forget which one, and they were selling rooms like the multi level car parks do. The end result was you had an investment with that you could try and sell that was managed and had an income source, was maintained by the hotel etc
Don't know if he ever went through with it but its not a new concept. I'd not heard of booking out an actual hotel room via AirBnB before but then I refuse to use it

Airbnb is just a booking platform. It has filled a gap in the market that hotels cannot fill unless you are prepared to pay $1000/night.

That takes a cut, encourages people to buy up housing stock and repurpose it and lobbys governments to allow them to do it.

They're you're typical tech bro startup like Uber that doesn't give a shit about local laws and is designed to make money off someone else's assets

Also massive lol at the $1000 per night for hotels like that's the norm, you'd get taken more seriously in this thread if you didn't post that sort of bullshit

 

[Sttew]

Lmao

Holiday homes and serviced apartments have existed since forever. Airbnb just came with a nifty app and a way to get around the red tape.

Serviced apartments? Right!!

There is no doubt Airbnb is a disruptor, like Uber was for the taxi industry, but they don't succeed unless there is a need and demand. So blame consumers. Short Stay rentals companies like Stayz and local real estate agencies promoting holiday rentals have picked up their act because they have to compete with Airbnb.

 

[Sttew]

Also massive lol at the $1000 per night for hotels like that's the norm, you'd get taken more seriously in this thread if you didn't post that sort of bullshit

If my wife and I go away with another couple or two couples, which we often do, we will stay at an Airbnb that has all the amenities we look for. We did that a month ago at Sorrento.

If we stayed at a comparable hotel with matching amenities it would easily cost $1,000,for 2 or 3 rooms. Instead we pay $400-$500/night all up.

So Gralin it is not bullshit. What is bullshit is you thinking you know everything. And yet you admit you have never used Airbnb.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Serviced apartments? Right!!

There is no doubt Airbnb is a disruptor, like Uber was for the taxi industry, but they don't succeed unless there is a need and demand. So blame consumers. Short Stay rentals companies like Stayz and local real estate agencies promoting holiday rentals have picked up their act because they have to compete with Airbnb.

Have you ever stayed at a Quest before?

I agree with the Uber comparison, it's 100% spot on. Two apps marketed as convenience when really it's all about circumventing a bit of red tape. Now anyone can live next to a holiday home where ferals on bucks parties can piss and shit in the street, **** yeah!

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Nah you know what, I'm not gonna argue with someone that thinks Airbnb invented the short stay private residence concept. I have things to do today

 

[Sttew]

Have you ever stayed at a Quest before?

I agree with the Uber comparison, it's 100% spot on. Two apps marketed as convenience when really it's all about circumventing a bit of red tape. Now anyone can live next to a holiday home where ferals on bucks parties can piss and s**t in the street, * yeah!

Of course I’ve stayed at Quest, Meriton and similar places. I prefer them to hotels when I’m in Sydney for work because you get a kitchen. But if I’m going away with others I prefer a house with all the amenities. That for me is the point of difference.

 

[Borisdog]

They're you're typical tech bro startup like Uber that doesn't give a s**t about local laws and is designed to make money off someone else's assets

Also massive lol at the $1000 per night for hotels like that's the norm, you'd get taken more seriously in this thread if you didn't post that sort of bullshit

Making money off someone else's asset is called "Business". How's your Super fund going? Or EVERY tradesman employing someone?

Your employer even does it with your time.

Air BNB had a good idea, and a successful one. I wish I'd had it.

But slugging AIRBNB/owners with extra burdens will only end one way, and won't create a miraculous change in home ownership.

FWIW the first thing I'd do is ban foreign ownership of Australian residential dwellings.

 

[Gralin]

Making money off someone else's asset is called "Business".

lol

How's your Super fund going?

the thing I have no control over having?
its going very neoliberally thanks

Or EVERY tradesman employing someone?

really interested how you think airbnb and tradies are the same, all ears here

Your employer even does it with your time.

my employer pays me for doing my job

Air BNB had a good idea, and a successful one. I wish I'd had it.

like I said the techbro model of making someone else have the asset and risk
of course what they want to do is corner the market so you have to use them
but they also dont care about the legalities of what they do or the impact it has on housing

But slugging AIRBNB/owners with extra burdens will only end one way, and won't create a miraculous change in home ownership.

do it well enough and it will end airbnb
for the record if you have a hotel room as an investment that you are using as a short stay I have no real issue with that
short stay accomodation is pretty much an opt in system that you can largely avoid
residental homes being turned into short stay I have an issue with regardless of whether you use airbnb or not because you are removing housing stock from the market that someone could live in long term

FWIW the first thing I'd do is ban foreign ownership of Australian residential dwellings.

love it, always the answer, those damn foreigners are the problem, not housing being an investment option, just that people from somenwhere else might own one

 

[tandino]

Probably not worth getting too excited until we have a handle on how many Airbnb's are actually potential rental stock, and not holiday homes/city pads that will never come onto the market, and of the remainder how many 7.5% are really going to shake loose.

In isolation, without a broader limitation, it just seems to be more tinkering.

 

[the_interloper]

Lmao

Holiday homes and serviced apartments have existed since forever. Airbnb just came with a nifty app and a way to get around the red tape.

Yeah I mean for a company of their size I'm sure they don't own many assets other than the app, similar to Uber too i guess.