Vic Daniel Andrews and the Statue of Limitations

[Festerz]

What if all the countries chip in and hold it at a neutral venue.

A 'Spirit of the Commonwealth' sort of thing?

Hows that Kool Aid tasting bro?

Took a pandemic for the AFL to agree to having the GF outside of Melbourne. The Commonwealth Games would rather let their empire fold than let that sort of commie talk of 'fairness and equity' take hold.

 

[randyzany]

Nothing.

As I've said previously, not all games events have to be the size of the Olympics to be relevant or valid. The Commonwealth Games include athletes from 71 nations and territories, comprising approximately one third of the world’s population.

Other groups of countries united by historical, cultural or language similarities run their own multi-sport games.

For example:

• Francophone Games for French-speaking nations and communities. (56 member nations) - based on the old French Empire.
• Lusophony Games for Portuguese-speaking nations and communities. (12 member nations)
• Pan Arab games, first held first in 1953, for Arabic-speaking nations.
• Islamic Solidarity Games first held in 2005, for all member states of the Organisation of Islamic Co-operation (57 member nations)
• Bolivarian games began in 1938, for countries liberated by Simon Bolivar (7 member nations)
• Games of the Small States of Europe
• Island Games for teams from several islands and other small territories (27 participants)
• Maccabiah Games for Jewish athletes worldwide
• African Games
• Baltic Sea Games
• Pan American Games
• Central American and Caribbean Games
• Central American Games
• South American Games
• Asian Games
• South-East Asian Games
• East Asian Games
• West Asian Games
• Central Asian Games
• South Asian Games
• European Games
• Mediterranean Games
• Pacific Games
• Indian Ocean Island Games

If the Commonwealth games have no value, then surely the above listed games are equally of no value.

Many regard the Commonwealth Games as a gateway to podium performances at the Olympic Games. Athletes are able to assess how they are they are progressing midway through the four year cycle of preparation for the Olympics while also comparing how they measure up to some of their main Olympic competitors (in the Commonwealth) during a large international sporting event.

Well speaking from the perspective of the Latin American countries and their respective tournaments it makes sense as many of these countries don't have the same massive financial backing from their governments to invest on their athletes to perform well at the Olympics that governments from wealthier developed nations do where the giants of China, the US, Germany, Russia, France, Britain, etc... obliterate the competition. And not to mention the bleeding obvious, they are connected by being neighbours and from the same region.

So this is their chance to shine I suppose and these games certainly mean a hell of a lot to the athletes of these countries including the general population, more so than what an Aussie athlete and the general Australian population, feel about the Comm games as the Olympics is their real dream, where they really want to win a medal.

And as far as Bolivarian games, that's the reverse of the Commonwealth games as it celebrates independence from a previous European interloper that was unceremoniously thrown out rather than still participating in a competition where the only thing these nations have in common was being forcibly included as part of a European country's overseas extension. Again these countries participating in the Bolivarian games are also connected by being from the same region, it makes sense for these games to exist based on that alone. Some people from some of these countries, particularly those nations where the majority of the population are not European, have a strong aversion to the Comm games for that very reason.

And again many of these nations, participating in the Bolivarian games, have about the same level of performance at the Olympics and both athletes and the general population from the countries appreciate the success at these tournaments far more than what Australian athletes and the general Australian population feel about the Comm games.

 

[randyzany]

If the British hadn't "invaded" Australia, what would we be today? A Japanese outpost? An undeveloped, third world wasteland?

I’d say it’d resemble PNG and other similar nations that are mostly non European. It’s a matter of perspective depending on who you ask as these nations may be poor but they are still composed primarily by the original inhabitants.

To someone of Aboriginal background being ‘third world’ may be preferable than being a minority in their own land, whose people have suffered discrimination for centuries since European settlement began. Even if Australia is a relatively wealthy country compared to others in the world, it is a wealth that at the end of the day many Aboriginals don’t get to benefit from for various reasons, which is a topic for another discussion.

 

[Sttew]

Sure.

But in the end he has saved Victorians from a financial disaster.

That Dan created ! Are we meant to thank Dan for averting a self made disaster? A disaster that will still cost us?

 

[Roby]

You’ve stopped swyping?

Can you address why you're a liar?

 

[eddiesmith]

According to these the Commenwealth Games don't rank in the top 15:

The World's Most Viewed Sporting Events

Discover the most popular, culturally-relevant, and viewed sporting events around the world and find out what makes these legendary events so exciting to watch.

www.fubo.tv

The Most Watched Sporting Events in The World

Wondering which sporting events draw the most TV viewers around the world? Check out our list of the world most watched sporting events.

www.roadtrips.com

Although numbers are unreliable, it is generally accepted that the most widely watched events worldwide are international sporting events such as the Summer Olympic Games, FIFA World Cup and Formula One,[2] with annual events such as the Super Bowl in the U.S., and the UEFA Champions League finals in Europe picking up large regional audiences.

10 Most-Watched Sport Events In The History Of Television📺

"Numbers don't lie; check the scoreboard"

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This is the only link that has the Commenwealth Games as top 20 for viewership. 4th is way off.

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And I'm not sure why you're getting heated again, calm down.

It’s pretty easy to roll the eyes at the first 2 yank articles which list their local Sports as most watched in the world, despite their figures being far less than the UK alone got for the last Commonwealth games.

Then you’ve got articles there which contradict each other with figures for the same events.

These 2 articles put viewership at 1.5 billion…

Gold Coast 2018 Commonwealth Games by numbers

No boundaries for women’s sport as T20 Cricket blasts off at the Birmingham 2022 Commonwealth Games

The Birmingham 2022 Commonwealth Games has landed in our living rooms during a week in which a record crowd of 87,192 people, joined a record-breaking…

www.lexology.com

 

[Roylion]

Well speaking from the perspective of the Latin American countries and their respective tournaments it makes sense as many of these countries don't have the same massive financial backing from their governments to invest on their athletes to perform well at the Olympics that governments from wealthier developed nations do where the giants of China, the US, Germany, Russia, France, Britain, etc... obliterate the competition.

Well yes. But that doesn't mean the Commonwealth games have no international value.

So this is their chance to shine I suppose and these games certainly mean a hell of a lot to the athletes of these countries including the general population, more so than what an Aussie athlete, and the general Ausstralian population, feels about the Comm games as the Olympics is their real dream, where they really want to win a medal

Yet for the Birmingham games there was considerable public interest in Australia. The Australian Sports Commission’s Community Perceptions Monitor found that 76% of Australians reported interest in the Birmingham Commonwealth Games before they commenced. Interest was line with the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympic Games (73%) and 2020 Tokyo Summer Paralympic Games (73%), but lower than the Tokyo Olympics (82%). 70% of Australians reported after the Games that they watched, listened to or read media coverage.

Among those who watched, read or listened to coverage of the Commonwealth Games, the most popular media channel was the live free-to-air television broadcast (63%).

Just over two thirds (67%) of respondents who watched / read or listened to media coverage of the 2022 Commonwealth Games had seen something that made them feel proud to be Australian, or think about participating in / encouraging their child to participate in sport or physical activity.

Australian athletes have also spoken about their importance. Australian shooter Bruce Quick recently said that "Famous athletes start at Commonwealth Games level - it's such a great stepping stone." Kristy Harris the Australian team captain at the Birmingham Games in 2022 recently spoke of the importance of the games for women in sport and how many aspiring and indeed established athletes have lost opportunities to compete on the international stage. Other current and former athletes such as Jane Flemming, John Steffensen, James Magnussen, Natalie Cook, Emma McKeon and Ariane Titmus have also spoken about lost opportunities.

Magnussen said that "You've got a World Champs year, you've got a Comm Games year, and you've got an Olympics year. Take that out of the cycle and we're racing [internationally] once every two years."

McKeon said about the Commonwealth games that "They have been a huge part in helping me to get to the levels I have in swimming.."

Natalie Cook said "It's a huge blow to ...the green and gold runway that we had set up going into Brisbane 2032."

And as far as Bolivarian games, that's the reverse of the Commonwealth games as it celebrates independence from a previous European interloper that was unceremoniously thrown out rather than still participating in a competition where the only thing these nations have in common was being forcibly included as part of a European country's overseas extension.

So are you suggesting the Bolivarian games have more value as a sporting event than the Commonwealth games?

The modern Commonwealth isn't necessarily seen as some vestige of colonialism. The organisation isn't getting smaller - its getting larger.

In 2022, Togo and Gabon joined the Commonwealth despite never having been under British rule. Mozambique (admitted in 1995) and Rwanda (admitted in 2015) were also never ruled by the British. Gambia re-joined in 2018 as did the Maldives. Zimbabwe also applied to re-join the Commonwealth the same year. Other countries currently looking to join the Commonwealth of Nations include South Sudan, Suriname and Burundi. The former French colonies of Algeria and Madagascar have also been applicants for membership. Yemen in the past has also sought to join. Kuwait has also shown interest.

Many Commonwealth nations also play sports that are considered British in character including cricket, soccer, rugby, field hockey and netball. So is the Cricket World Cup nothing more than a celebration of Britain's colonial power? Should it be discontinued?

 

[Roby]

It’s pretty easy to roll the eyes at the first 2 yank articles which list their local Sports as most watched in the world, despite their figures being far less than the UK alone got for the last Commonwealth games.

Then you’ve got articles there which contradict each other with figures for the same events.

These 2 articles put viewership at 1.5 billion…

Gold Coast 2018 Commonwealth Games by numbers

No boundaries for women’s sport as T20 Cricket blasts off at the Birmingham 2022 Commonwealth Games

The Birmingham 2022 Commonwealth Games has landed in our living rooms during a week in which a record crowd of 87,192 people, joined a record-breaking…

www.lexology.com

Even it's 1.5 billion it's still not top 4, it would be sixth.

 

[tandino]

I’d say it’d resemble PNG and other similar nations that are mostly non European. It’s a matter of perspective depending on who you ask as these nations may be poor but they are still composed primarily by the original inhabitants.

To someone of Aboriginal background being ‘third world’ may be preferable than being a minority in their own land, whose people have suffered discrimination for centuries since European settlement began. Even if Australia is a relatively wealthy country compared to others in the world, it is a wealth that at the end of the day many Aboriginals don’t get to benefit from for various reasons, which is a topic for another discussion.

I wonder how a referendum in PNG would have played out in 1975. Independence v Australian Statehood. It's a pretty stark choice.

 

[Cmarsh]

Dan Andrews transforms Melbourne into "Hellbourne"

Melbourne’s population has increased by an astonishing 1.5 million people (44%) in 20 years: In turn, the city has been transformed into a permanent building site in an attempt to keep up with the unrelenting population growth. But it never works, with traffic congestion, infrastructure...

www.macrobusiness.com.au

Article very critical of Dan's call to increase immigration while not matching it with infrastructure projects.

 

[FIGJAM]

I’d say it’d resemble PNG...

One of the European countries would have eventually colonised it just as they had colonised everywhere else.

Any idea of there being a circa 2023 pristine indigenous Australia nature reserve that had no external claim like it was Antarctica is a retrospective thought-bubble pipe dream.

 

[Sttew]

Can you address why you're a liar?

Will you address why everywhere YOU post you end up in slanging matches. And the common denominator is always YOU and your superiority complex.

 

[Demons09]

Will you address why everywhere YOU post you end up in slanging matches. And the common denominator is always YOU and your superiority complex.

You’ve noticed it to?

 

[Roby]

Will you address why everywhere YOU post you end up in slanging matches. And the common denominator is always YOU and your superiority complex.

But you think you're better than Dan.. so the inferiority complex lies with you and squarely at you.

 

[MarcMaverick]

But you think you're better than Dan.. so the inferiority complex lies with you and squarely at you.

Hmm. Maybe stress balls are more your style.

 

[Not Important]

tick!

 

[Festerz]

You could see it as a bit of a test of the new bloke's commitment to the Commonwealth. It's hard to imagine his mum letting this happen.

Roy and HG are discussing this very thing on the wireless atm.

They've suggested that he flog one of his properties or crown jewels to keep the thing going and that maybe they could include gardening competitions or comps to get him and Camilla interested. A biggest pumpkin comp would go down a treat with those interested in keeping the Commonwealth Games going and provide another spectacle for the lawn bowls fanatics to go to.

Or maybe they host the games at Balmoral with members of the Royal family acting as celebrity judges for the events. Would be a ratings winner!

 

[Gralin]

Absolutely shocked this hasn't come up yet in here

 

[eddiesmith]

Absolutely shocked this hasn't come up yet in here

Wow, they sure know how to pick them in Ringwood

Although the last one didn’t do anything criminally wrong…

 

[Gralin]

Wow, they sure know how to pick them in Ringwood

Although the last one didn’t do anything criminally wrong…

Sounds serious and possibly more than one incident.

When they're talking about referring a serious assault to police in the press release you'd expect this won't be good

 

[eddiesmith]

Sounds serious and possibly more than one incident.

When they're talking about referring a serious assault to police in the press release you'd expect this won't be good

Yep, the article in the untrustworthy paper suggests there have been a few recent incidents.

It also seems it may have happened at the parliamentary bar.

 

[Gralin]

Yep, the article in the untrustworthy paper suggests there have been a few recent incidents.

It also seems it may have happened at the parliamentary bar.

There was an incident in 2019 in Canberra with a hostel door as well.

 

[Satan]

So we could educate the Canadians.

Eh

Absolutely shocked this hasn't come up yet in here

tim smith likes this

 

[peetoo]

Is anyone surprised? No votes in the Airport rail link, Geelong fast train or Melton line upgrade

From what I see the wests biggest problem is a second crossing and being choked by trucks. In the east it’s just general congestion

 

[peetoo]

Roy and HG are discussing this very thing on the wireless atm.

They've suggested that he flog one of his properties or crown jewels to keep the thing going and that maybe they could include gardening competitions or comps to get him and Camilla interested. A biggest pumpkin comp would go down a treat with those interested in keeping the Commonwealth Games going and provide another spectacle for the lawn bowls fanatics to go to.

Or maybe they host the games at Balmoral with members of the Royal family acting as celebrity judges for the events. Would be a ratings winner!

He has no interest in a lot of his mums favourites.