David Noble has the full support of the board

[Cyber_punk]

North need to be careful not to stuff this up. Noble may or may not be the man for the job. That's hard to say from the outside. He's obviously not going to be around once they eventually come good. It's very rare for a coach during a rebuild (especially when the team is struggling to this degree) to still be coaching when things turn.
As long as he isn't doing more damage than good, losing the players, or completely incompetent (which on field results won't necessarily show), then they're better off sticking with him. The lure of Clarkson is obviously strong, but we won't turn them around in 1-2 years. It's too early for a Clarko type at North.
They have to stay the course and let the sacrificial lamb steer them through the storm.

Nah. This will likely be his last coaching gig and he should be approached while he is there for the taking.

If it isn't him or Choco there next year I'll be dissapointed. Staying the course with an admin guy over coaches who have won 5 flags combined is straight up negligent by the club.

 

[iameviljez]

Simpkin has been outright terrible, LDU has been great for the last month. I think the young players like JHF, Powell, are developing well. TT is in a rut, Zurhaar at his best is pretty useful but the gap between best and worst is still large. McKay is a good full back I maintain that norths issue is that 25-29 yo are not existant and out older players are cooked. The other kids of which there is some good prospects need some dependable older players to allow them to play and develop without having to do all the heavy lifting.

Again the problem isn’t cutting so hard. It was the recruiting of those players in the first place. I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure that before LDU in 2017 our previous top 5 pick was Cunnington in 2009, Lachlan Hansen in 2006 and Daniel Wells in 2002. That’s a severe lack of top end talent over a 15 year period. It’s not everything but I’d hazard a guess that it’s pretty low compared to other clubs and thus a factor of sone type

Absolutely, but it’s also the fact that there haven’t been enough mid-range to late picks that have really stuck too.

Hawthorn is a really good example IMO - they haven’t had any access to great talent either, but they managed to get the best out of players like Mitchell, Sicily, Lewis and Hardwick - it’s enough to keep them afloat, even if they aren’t setting the world on fire. Similarly with us, Dangerfield, Hawkins and Cameron have kept us in contention, but getting decent players out of trash picks like Blicavs, Menegola, Close, Stengle, Zac Guthrie, Jack Henry, Atkins, has helped enormously.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Transplants work in places that don't have an existing large interest in the game. Places like Tasmania that do, want their own identity, not someone else's.

Ok but where to then I don't think a Kangaroo would be a suitable mascot for a New Zealand team. large interest in the game rules out being a 3rd WA team or a NT team. So FNQ, Newcastle/Hunter or Wollongong would be the only options and none of them are going to happen.

 

[Rich01]

Why is their CEO and his team not being included in the current review of the club? His strategic plan and subsequent execution is critical to the football departments success.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

So still the north coach ?

I would laugh if the review comes back and recommends Nobel to be extended

 

[Le Grille]

So still the north coach ?

I would laugh if the review comes back and recommends Nobel to be extended

Mate, you obviously care. Buy a membership

Jokes aside, regardless of muppets emailing the press and the bloodlust on this site, no decision will be made until the review finishes, it’d be stupid to not have a plan to ensure the structure around the interim and new coach is correct too. If it takes a few weeks to get to that point and do it right, I’m ok with that.

 

[Bald]

The thing that confuses me is how Noble is viewed after this. He will be viewed as a failed coach as opposed to a good football person who had a hand in reviving the Brisbane Lions to the consistent finals performer that they are. I really do hope once the dust settles and he isn't coaching North anymore, that he can get a gig at another club, whether it be as an assistant or as an admin somewhere.

The good news is most senior coaches that are given the flick end up in other clubs at some degree anyway.

 

[augie]

The thing that confuses me is how Noble is viewed after this. He will be viewed as a failed coach as opposed to a good football person who had a hand in reviving the Brisbane Lions to the consistent finals performer that they are. I really do hope once the dust settles and he isn't coaching North anymore, that he can get a gig at another club, whether it be as an assistant or as an admin somewhere.

The good news is most senior coaches that are given the flick end up in other clubs at some degree anyway.

Would never happen, but they could do worse than shift him from coach to GM of football. Unless of course the relationship with the players is as bad as the media makes out.

 

[Bald]

Would never happen, but they could do worse than shift him from coach to GM of football. Unless of course the relationship with the players is as bad as the media makes out.

I was thinking this. I can’t see him doing it at north but there’s plenty of other clubs that could do worse.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Maybe Noble could try forcing out their captian
Jack Zieball and then resign as a result.

Worked for the Dogs with McCartney and Griffen onto a flag.

What else do they have to lose at this point? (Other than their captian)

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Mate, you obviously care. Buy a membership

Jokes aside, regardless of muppets emailing the press and the bloodlust on this site, no decision will be made until the review finishes, it’d be stupid to not have a plan to ensure the structure around the interim and new coach is correct too. If it takes a few weeks to get to that point and do it right, I’m ok with that.

Why would i double norths membership

 

[Le Grille]

Why would i double norths membership

Cos you love us

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Cos you love us

LOL i just feel so sorry for you guys and it must be so difficult to maintain hope

 

[Le Grille]

LOL i just feel so sorry for you guys and it must be so difficult to maintain hope

Well at present it is, similar to you guys from 1980 to 2017 but seriously thanks for thinking of us

 

[Lsta062]

Correct me North fans or people who have more knowledge on this than me, but I still don’t really see the issue with Noble. Rhys Shaw reportedly was not happy with the state of the list when he was a coach. I don’t see it as Noble’s fault that the club decided to just get rid of a lot of the experience that kept them somewhat competitive. The condition that the list is in right now isn’t really Noble’s fault in my opinion.

The gamestyle is, but again, he’s left to come up with a gameplan for a struggling list. Richmond struggled in the first 2 years of Damien Hardwick’s tenure as well. Same thing happened - we lost a lot of experience prior to his first year. We had nine 50+ losses in his first year, and about five in his second year.

Noble had five in his first year, and so far ten 50+ losses in his second year. OK, I get how this year is absolutely garbage (I am not going to deny it), but Melbourne and Richmond were so bad that they conceded 220+ this century. GWS and Port Adelaide were so bad in the early 2010s that they conceded 190+ with margins of 160+. Gold Coast conceded 188 points in a game for a margin of 150. Fitzroy conceded 187 points in a game.

Again, North Melbourne is bad, but I don’t think they’re completely unsalvageable like some are making them out to be. Once they get as bad as Melbourne, Richmond, Port Adelaide, GWS, Gold Coast, and Fitzroy, then I’ll agree that maybe something needs to be done about Noble. For now though, it just sounds like it’s a premature response to a club being completely uncompetitive for the first time in years (they were uncompetitive before, but not like this).

I’m not saying that I’m right in this, but I’m just stating my opinion.

 

[FastLane]

Correct me North fans or people who have more knowledge on this than me, but I still don’t really see the issue with Noble. Rhys Shaw reportedly was not happy with the state of the list when he was a coach. I don’t see it as Noble’s fault that the club decided to just get rid of a lot of the experience that kept them somewhat competitive. The condition that the list is in right now isn’t really Noble’s fault in my opinion.

The gamestyle is, but again, he’s left to come up with a gameplan for a struggling list. Richmond struggled in the first 2 years of Damien Hardwick’s tenure as well. Same thing happened - we lost a lot of experience prior to his first year. We had nine 50+ losses in his first year, and about five in his second year.

Noble had five in his first year, and so far ten 50+ losses in his second year. OK, I get how this year is absolutely garbage (I am not going to deny it), but Melbourne and Richmond were so bad that they conceded 220+ this century. GWS and Port Adelaide were so bad in the early 2010s that they conceded 190+ with margins of 160+. Gold Coast conceded 188 points in a game for a margin of 150. Fitzroy conceded 187 points in a game.

Again, North Melbourne is bad, but I don’t think they’re completely unsalvageable like some are making them out to be. Once they get as bad as Melbourne, Richmond, Port Adelaide, GWS, Gold Coast, and Fitzroy, then I’ll agree that maybe something needs to be done about Noble. For now though, it just sounds like it’s a premature response to a club being completely uncompetitive for the first time in years (they were uncompetitive before, but not like this).

I’m not saying that I’m right in this, but I’m just stating my opinion.

Bingo

Brad Scott is widely regarded as an excellent coach who did an amazing job with a poor list.
He was arsed
Rhyce Shaw was widely regarded (and still is) as an exceptional assistant and loved by players.
He got the job then ended up under the Rawlings brothers -footy boss Brady employs brother as assistant - brother then given the boot during hub along with a bunch of crucial staff- leaving a novice coach high and dry and poor bugger ends up in bad way mentally- no bloody wonder!
Actually feel for North supporters- club is a disgrace and coaching gig a poisoned chalice

 

[The acurate one]

A record for least amount of rebounds from our forward fifty last week- Noble is killing it.

 

[brutus76]

Noble needs to be the Footy Manager

They need an experienced coach - if not Simmo Don Pyke

Some concessional picks but a rule they have to trade them to bring in some 22-26 yo talent

 

[LightTower4]

Noble lucky Geelong were inaccurate or else the margin on Saturday would have been 150+ points. North are worse than Neeld's Demons.

I think the jury are still deliberating on that one.
North getting close, but Neeld's Dee's are still worse at this stage, IMHO.

 

[Clive Kepler]

I don't even know who the dude is.

 

[My Tilly]

He has to go. Their list is not as bad as what they are putting up on a weekly basis.

If Hinkley gets tapped on the shoulder end of the season, North should go after him in a heart beat. May not have what it takes to get a team to a premiership, but in terms of taking a young list to the finals, he'd do the same for North Melbourne.

 

[Le Grille]

He has to go. Their list is not as bad as what they are putting up on a weekly basis.

If Hinkley gets tapped on the shoulder end of the season, North should go after him in a heart beat. May not have what it takes to get a team to a premiership, but in terms of taking a young list to the finals, he'd do the same for North Melbourne.

I really don’t know on Hinkley at times I think he’s pretty good others not so much.

I really want the next north coach to have experience though

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

North should be lobbying the AFL to increase their soft cap to make a bid for Clarkson
Make him a deal he cant refuse 7 years at $1.5 million a year

This will not only improve their kids but will also entice mature free agents to consider coming to north
They have unlimited cap space after banking 5% for the last 8 years not using the war chest they have had since 2015

 

[kranky al]

That's very noble of them.

Mmm but is it noblesse oblige?

Lose a few more like this and they will be obliged to show noble the door…

 

[Johnny Karate]

North should be lobbying the AFL to increase their soft cap to make a bid for Clarkson
Make him a deal he cant refuse 7 years at $1.5 million a year

This will not only improve their kids but will also entice mature free agents to consider coming to north
They have unlimited cap space after banking 5% for the last 8 years not using the war chest they have had since 2015

The Paul Roos model.